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The section about China isn't correct. Simply, I live in China, and never seen any government official depressed Christmas, like in Japan, just business（我在中国没有遇到政府层面的对圣诞节的压制，不如说政府完全不关心，都是商业）. Meanwhile, there was dissention among the Chinese public opinion（民间对圣诞节的看法不一，不能只选择其中的偏驳或激进论点）.

see also: https://investexglobal.com/commentary-china-doesnt-deserve-its-bad-rep-over-christmas/

and,

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/24/china-cracks-down-on-christmas-celebrations
This article’s headline and opening paragraph were amended on 26 December to clarify the breadth of the crackdown on Christmas.

😂 User talk:观赏植物 10:49, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's not obvious what this means. I presume it refers to the various dates used by Eastern Orthodox Churches, but then I know about the different dates they use. Also, in Sweden the celebration itself is mainly Christmas Eve, see Christmas in Sweden and this. Ditto Denmark, Finland, Norway, Estonia, etc - looks like much of Central Europe as well. In any case, why are we specifying churches instead of countries? Doug Weller talk 14:02, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I expect this is a long argued issue, but there should be a separate "War on Christmas" page. The fake "War on Christmas" has been a more constant right wing talking point in the U.S. than the "Birther" controversy and has been a part of arguably 5 presidential elections thus far. It is a prime example of a particular kind of right wing fake controversy where none exists and just this year "2019" the right wing in the U.S. including President Trump have attempted to expand the fake War on Christmas into a fake War on Thanksgiving. I am reading a tweet from Laura Ingraham right now that makes a fake War on Christmas claim. Because there is no reality to the "War on Christmas" as it has be used by Right Wing Media and President Trump, it does not belong on a page that discusses actual Christmas Controversies. Sjlebl (talk) 04:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think what you are suggesting is not a move but a new article War on Christmas leaving s small section in this article as a summary of the new article. I can see some merit in that. Loved this.[1] Doug Weller talk 11:48, 18 December 2019 (UTC) Mess up pinging User:Sjlebl. Doug Weller talk 11:49, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I can see how that could be seen as a move, as this article originally was "War on Christmas", and got moved to its current location eventually. I'd be a bit concerned about a WoC article at this point, as it seems likely to be a magnet for every current controversy anyway whether or not any source has described it as part of said war; it seems like one of those things that would end up being more opinion sources than fact sources, and frankly that sort of coverage is apt to do more to perpetrate the myth than to end it. But I'm not going to do anything to prevent its creation, just offering my cautions. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:07, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An IP editor has been trying to edit-war in Boris Johnson "canceling Christmas" on this page, and while they have finally stopped using that terminology, this insertion has a basic problem: the Evening Standard source being used doesn't show any controversy in the move. It does say that some health folks don't feel the new strain is as deadly as they claim, but there's no statement from them against the restrictions. The only non-Johnson statement on the restrictions comes from Keir Starmer, who, while finding the chance to snipe against the government's inconsistency, supports following these regulations. There may well be controversy over this move, but if so, it isn't in this source. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:08, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]