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==Cannabis Indica is not a species ==
== As a cultivar ==
Cannabis Indica is not a species but a subspecies of Cannabis sativa L.
It is called: Cannabis sativa L. subspecies indica. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/62.194.24.34|62.194.24.34]] ([[User talk:62.194.24.34|talk]]) 15:07, 2 April 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Looking at [https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:306087-2 Plants of the World Online] and [https://www.worldfloraonline.org/taxon/wfo-0000584001 World Flora Online] plus some papers on genetics it looks like this is not actually a species, it is a [[:cultivar]] that might be a [[:subspecies]] or botanical variety as it is listed at https://www.worldplants.de, but almost undoubtedly not a species. So I'm probably going to rework the page after some other cultivars like [[:red delicious]] and [[:broccoli]] with information about it previously being an accepted species since it is quite clearly notable enough to have an article. [[User:MtBotany|🌿<templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#254c00">Mt</span><templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#326500">B</span><templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#3e7e00">o</span><templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#4a9700">t</span><templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#57b000">a</span><templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#63ca00">n</span><templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#70e300">y</span>]] ([[User talk:MtBotany|talk]]) 19:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, that is what I wanted to know. There's no controversy, I assume. (It should be at the top of the article, then, obviously). <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Z Pres|Z Pres]] ([[User talk:Z Pres|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Z Pres|contribs]]) 02:03, 13 February 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:See also discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabis#Merge_proposal. [[User:Loopy30|Loopy30]] ([[User talk:Loopy30|talk]]) 02:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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In terms of a smokers experience, what is the difference between Indica and Sativa? I've read much about the differences in the plants themselves (shape of leaves, amount of buds, etc..). What is the difference in the "high" that is associated with the two types? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:70.26.180.225|70.26.180.225]] ([[User talk:70.26.180.225|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.26.180.225|contribs]]) 17:56, February 26, 2006 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->


After smoking Sativa strains, many people get a "stoned" feeling, possiblly accompanied by paranoia around other people, followed by hunger and drowsiness. Indica, however, is known for a happy, alert, clean-feeling high in which many people feel more social than with Sativa. People who don't like the effects of sativa, or get worn out by them, could try switching to Indica, or mixing it up for different occasions.[[User:64.16.162.161|64.16.162.161]] 23:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)mar

I must disagree with the above comments. The vast majority of experianced smokers would claim the exact opposite with the Sativa strains giving the up high experiance and Indicas the stoned effect

Sativas are known for their head highs as well, while indicas produce more of a body high. Indica is more likely to be taken for pain or issues sleeping, and possibly towards the later evening hours. Why is a discussion needed on this is my question? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.137.192.124|69.137.192.124]] ([[User talk:69.137.192.124|talk]]) 21:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== unmerge from genus article ==

The subject of this article should be a standalone article, as it is capable of meeting the general notability guideline as a notable plant species. [[User:Riffic|riffic]] ([[User talk:Riffic|talk]]) 14:30, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Image associated with Cannabis Indica appears to be incorrect ==

the image on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cannabis_indica_Selkem.jpg page is an image of a SATIVA strain of Marijuana, not INDICA, as it states.

It is a long straight cola and Indica strains tend to be shorter, bushier, stubbier. The leaves in the image are long and thin and the example indica leaf on the page is correct in that it has short, fat leaves.

This is a major error for this page as it is probably viewed thousands of times a week- further confusing the debate over the difference between sativa and indica. Thanks,

[[Special:Contributions/71.161.162.11|71.161.162.11]] ([[User talk:71.161.162.11|talk]]) 18:37, 5 June 2013 (UTC) Ezparz

== What is a "Cannabis strain"? (too much assumed knowledge on the part of the reader) ==

"Cannabis strains with relatively high CBD:THC ratios are less likely to induce anxiety than vice versa"... when...? (e.g. when feeding it to your dog)? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/178.5.93.219|178.5.93.219]] ([[User talk:178.5.93.219|talk]]) 21:35, 23 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Does Cannabis indica contain more CBD than Cannabis sativa? ==

We are currently citing [http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000638] to claim that Cannabis indica contains more CBD than Cannabis sativa. This is questionable even from that source which quotes Valerie Corral as stating: "Results from a drug detection laboratory indicated that C. sativa measured: THC 23.7%, CBD <0.1% and CBN <0.1%. Results indicated that C. indica strains measured THC 19.6%, CBD <0.2% and CBN <0.5%." &mdash;[[User:Sharavanabhava|Sharavanabhava]] ('''[[User talk:Sharavanabhava|talk]]''') 06:07, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, you can view the data at the 2nd source placed in this section ("difference between..."). Click on the tab that says "High CBD". Once there, you will see many names of different Cannabis varieties (strains). Any name "Kush" is definitely an ''indica'', "OG Kush" is one of the original strains of ''C. indica'' and it has a higher CBD-THC ratio than the ''sativas''; this also applies to Hindu Kush. '''[[User:LiphradicusEpicus|<span style="color:#ffd700;"><span style="background-color:#000000;">მაLiphradicus</span></span>]][[User Talk:LiphradicusEpicus|<span style="color:#c0c0c0;"><span style="background-color:#000000;">Epicusთე</span></span>]]''' 18:53, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
::This is original research at best. And OG Kush isn't even a true Kush. &mdash;[[User:Sharavanabhava|Sharavanabhava]] ('''[[User talk:Sharavanabhava|talk]]''') 07:23, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Please see also [http://hempethics.weebly.com/industrial-hemp-vs-cannabis.html]:
"Industrial hemp has low THC levels compared to marijuana specifically cultivated for personal psychoactive use. Whereas marijuana that can be smoked usually contains between five and ten percent THC, industrial hemp contains about one-tenth of that. In order to get a psychoactive effect, one would need to smoke ten or twelve hemp cigarettes over a very short period of time.
The reason for the low THC content in hemp is that most THC is formed in resin glands on the buds and flowers of the female cannabis plant. Industrial hemp is not cultivated to produce buds, and therefore lacks the primary component that forms the marijuana high. Furthermore, industrial hemp has higher concentrations of a chemical called Cannabidiol (CBD) that has a negative effect on THC and lessens its psychoactive effects when smoked in conjunction." &mdash;[[User:Sharavanabhava|Sharavanabhava]] ('''[[User talk:Sharavanabhava|talk]]''') 07:30, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
*Just a thought: Originally, the conventional wisdom was that indica had more CBD relative to sativa (go back to my youth in the 70s-80s), but this was based on plants in the wild. Could this be true (ie: sources) but not true with indoor hybrids. From what I can see, virtually no pure sativas or indicas exist in the indoor arena, everything is a hybrid to one degree of another, even if just a few percent. Indoor growing has gotten so huge, if sources exist, it makes sense to differentiate between wild/purely outdoor grown strains and indoor/greenhouse grown. I don't ''know'' this, but my gut says there may be something to it. For instance, no traditional strain/outdoor grown sativa or indica has 23.7% THC, it just can't in that environment. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis&nbsp;Brown</b>]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User talk:Dennis Brown|2¢]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|<small>WER</small>]] 11:56, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

I would like to ask interested editors to review this source: [http://www.amjbot.org/content/91/6/966.full] American Journal of Botany, "A chemotaxonomic analysis of cannabinoid variation in Cannabis (Cannabaceae)", Karl W. Hillig and Paul G. Mahlberg, Am. J. Bot. June 2004 vol. 91 no. 6 966-975. &mdash;[[User:Sharavanabhava|Sharavanabhava]] ('''[[User talk:Sharavanabhava|talk]]''') 23:53, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

:I've reviewed this source as well as [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21040939] and they both show that THC:CBD is higher in ''C.indica'' than ''C.sativa'', and that absolute levels of THC are indeed much higher in ''C.indica'' than in ''C.sativa''. I have made the corresponding changes in the article. [[User:Ljgua124|Ljgua124]] ([[User talk:Ljgua124|talk]]) 00:27, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


This page and the sativa page say different things while citing the same source<br />
"Mean THC levels [...] were significantly higher in C. indica than C. sativa."<ref>http://www.amjbot.org/content/91/6/966.abstract</ref><br />
[[Special:Contributions/91.125.20.63|91.125.20.63]] ([[User talk:91.125.20.63|talk]]) 20:51, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

== Requested move 22 March 2016 ==

{{requested move/dated|Cannabis sativa ssp. indica}}

[[:Cannabis indica]] → {{no redirect|Cannabis sativa ssp. indica}} – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. [[User:MCEllis|MCEllis]] ([[User talk:MCEllis|talk]]) 14:51, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:06, 27 May 2024

As a cultivar[edit]

Looking at Plants of the World Online and World Flora Online plus some papers on genetics it looks like this is not actually a species, it is a cultivar that might be a subspecies or botanical variety as it is listed at https://www.worldplants.de, but almost undoubtedly not a species. So I'm probably going to rework the page after some other cultivars like red delicious and broccoli with information about it previously being an accepted species since it is quite clearly notable enough to have an article. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 19:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See also discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabis#Merge_proposal. Loopy30 (talk) 02:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cannabis_indica&diff=1225845288&oldid=711379016

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