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I think the literacy numbers are incorrect. If 54% of men are literate and 45% of women, then how come total literacy is 78%??.

Leotolstoy 20:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article is currently experiencing edit-wars. It may make sense to semi-protect it until the anons get tired of this game. Achitnis 14:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Achitnis. I have invited (in the edit summary) the anon to participate in the discussion. Hope that will put an end to edit-war. - KNM ^Talk 19:56, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dont remove belgaon.

IMO, all parties involved should stop reverting each other. The article is not so bad that it should be semi-protected. Just don't revert and discuss here. - Aksi_great (talk) 06:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

belgaavi has more Kannada people than marathi. The Belgaum district was incorporated into the newly formed Mysore state (now Karnataka) with the passage of the States Reorganisation Act (1956), which reorganised India's states along linguistic lines despite having some Marathi-speaking population [4]; about one-fourths of the total population.[5]. Since then Maharashtra is claiming the district to itself and the case is now in Supreme court of India.

I reverted[1] edits by 59.95.28.241, because no rationale was provided for the changes made (changing the alphabetical order in which the languages were listed and removing the sentence about the Airport). utcursch | talk 08:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

belgaon has more marathi people so marathi name should come first.

That's not an explanation for removing information about the Airport. utcursch | talk 12:54, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandigarh has punjabi first than hindi. sorry for removing airport information.

Please stop your edit war using an WP:SPA on this page. The order of transliteration is a trivial issue, and Kannada being the administrative language of the Belgaum deserves to be first. I am reverting it once again and if you continue your revert war, I will stop any further reverts as per WP:DFTT. You are free to continue your pointless reverts until an admin looks into this. Also, please stop terming content disputes as vandalism. -- Naveen ^(talk) 13:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have blocked User:Bell Ga On indefinitely as a disruptive SPA and sock of User:Arya Rajya Maharashtra. - Aksi_great (talk) 13:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I confirm that this result was reached by me using CheckUser. Dmcdevit·t 06:34, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On what basis have you blocked me. Who is Arya Rajya Maharashtra ? I am not a sock of anyone. And what disruptive edits did I make ? Please don't use administrator powers for wrong purposes. Bel Ga On 14:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. Naveenbm himself is a troll. On what basis u allege Bell as being a sock. I am sorry but u have no right. have u people read the explaination before doing a unilateral edit? Sarvabhaum 04:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Belgaon has more marathi people so marathi name should come first (see the article's border dispute sub-section)[2] and the marathi script should come first as it is more relevent that kannada. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandigarh where Punjabi is first followed by Hindi, naturally because Chandigarh has more Punjabis than Hindis. Sarvabhaum 04:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marathi is a far more recent language than Kannada and also now there is no Belgaum its BELAGAAVI. At present Kannadiga and Marathi population are same. Sarvabhaum is spreading vandalism .Boycott him. Sarvabhaum is causing vandalism and

belgavi is not used by common people or newspapers It is still Belgaum for all 1. Belgaum has more Marathi population so Marathi should come first as in Chandigarh where Punjabi is before Hindi. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.95.33.40 (talk) 06:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The new name is not yet being used or approved by Central government. Search for Belgavi gives very few returns. Same is with Bangalore Also consider Marathi script first than Kannada script for the simple fact that Marathi speakers are more in number there.06:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Just go through the recent census this year and you will find both Kannada and Marathi population same.There a re few villages which have total Marathis .Also there are few in Maharashtra where complete Kannada is there.Please check it up.Karnataka has 2-5ths of India's backward people inside it who can be attracted anywhere.This is the fate that we got by state reorganisation and thats why Karnataka's representation is poor at centre.That is the root cause for all this.But still we tolerate for the country.But if this is the case we won't tolerate anymore!!! Just because we allowed Maratha light infantry there doesn't mean it is marathi.We also have a Madras Engg group in Bengalooru doesn't mean Bengaloor is Tamil. We have 5 states neighbouring with different tongues.We respect every tongue until they are tongues .When they spread venom we cut them. Don't go by google search .I can search for most prostitutes and find Mumbai in it! Don't spread vandalism.If we call Belagaavi its because its official from Nov 1 2006 by Karnataka GovernmentYou see Kannada boards in all places now in Belagaavi.Have a look.

Great words by Sarvabhum---- MAHANTESH V

Has Belgaum's name changed to Belagaavi officially? All citations regarding the renaming are worded in the future tense. Although the date of Nov 1 is long gone, there's no government or media website which says that the name is now Belagaavi for official purposes.

I've taken a cue from the Bangalore and Mangalore articles (because those cities are in the same boat) and have slightly modified the opening sentence. I hope it reflects the future tense reports of the cited sources more accurately.

Max ^{- You were saying?} 18:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen any official notice yet, so retaining the original name for now is probably prudent. It will be a decade before the new name is in common use. Achitnis 17:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. One just needs to be wary of the edits of language hawks who try to "put things right" :-). - Max ^{- You were saying?} 06:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war started again regarding this. - Meghanand 06:51, 3 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meghanand (talk • contribs)

The article states population division as 51% male and 49% female, overall literacy rate as 78% and female / male literacy as 46% / 54%!!. Simple arithmetic shows that either the overall literacy rate is wrong or the literacy rate split is wrong.

54% of 51% (male literacy) is equal to 27.54%. 46% of 49% is equal to 22.54%. If you total the two you get 50.08%, which is well below the national average.

However, knowing Belgaum as I do, I am inclined to believe the 78% figure. Looks like the author has taken overall literacy rate from the latest census while quoting the male / female literacy split from an earlier census or a different source. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tsagar (talk • contribs) 09:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Please note that at this time, the city has NOT been renamed, following a central government order. Also it is untrue that Belgaum is to become the second capital of Karnataka - that was a suggestion that was never implemented. Achitnis 12:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The city is already renamed by Karnataka government as Belagaavi.Since a centre's involvement will only be for formality as it is completely under state's control and it's natural that state will oppose centre's decision if it makes any politics involving Shiv sena and Maharashtra congress as Sonia Gandhi did with President's post. When Cheif Minister is laying foundation for a legislative complex it can mean only one thing that is capital. Also read the news article carefully and wait for tomorrow. Kali-K 14:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kali-K,

Thanks you for your inputs. Unfortunately, they had to be undone. Let me explain why. Please note that Wikipedia does not give credence to original research or unverified claims. All we know for now is that the Central Government has refused to rename the city. Your arguments in the post above sound like your own opinions and conclusions, and regrettably, they cannot be the basis for adding information to the article. Also, neither your reference (New Indian Express) nor the official websites of the Government of Karnataka and the Belgaum City Corporation mention anything about Belgaum being made the second capital (I am not referring to mere announcements but the actual fact of the city being made the second capital). We have to stick to information that has already been published in mainstream, reliable sources. In light of this, I am sure you will appreciate why your inputs were rolled back. Thank you, Max ^{- You were saying?} 19:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Max

I do understand your request but you must understand one thing that Indian state centre relationship is not a prominent one. Even now there are quesitons over state reorganisation. Hope you have an idea of European countries and not a Central Govt for Europe. And we come in between American states and European Union. A home minister(Shivaraj Patil from Maharashtra raises objection over renaming a state district) and a political party president(Sonia Gandhi) commands here for country's President post and a Shiv Sena head (Bal Thackerey of Maharashtra) tells a outgoing President like Kalam as his term is over!But still they cover up their inability to do anything when two legislative assembly members from Maharashtra (Manohar Kini + one more) gets their faces black painted because they know they are doing politics over a place which hasn't seen development over 6 decades and when someone as enthusiastic as Kunaraswamy tries a change want to give him a opposition just to promote congress in Karnataka! When Maharashtra cannot look after Mumbai - known for underworld which has spread to other parts like wildfire and uncontrollable prostitution and highest AIDS cases and burgeoning population of over 8 crores!! why does it want an extra district. Today the Chief Minister of Karnataka (hope you understand what is chief minister to a state) has laid foundation for legislature there(google up for news. I won't post the link as it may not meet up your sources).This is India. Wake up Buddy.Kali-K 14:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kali-K,

Again, I must point you to the policies. Please read the policies of neutral point of view, verifiability and no original research which are a few of the pillars upon which Wikipedia is built. Whatever you said above are your own conjectures and opinions, and even if I or anyone else agrees with you personally, they do not make a difference to the encyclopedia. Remember, Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thoughts or self-made conclusions - it is only a collection of knowledge that already exists. You cannot draw your own inferences (e.g. since the Vidhana Soudha is being built, therefore Belgaum must be the second capital, or that it must be called "Belagaavi") and then put them up here. Theoretically, every sentence on Wikipedia needs a source - a reliable, verifiable reference that is the origin to which that sentence can be attributed. I know this sounds a bit bureaucratic, but it's the best way that keeps the Wikipedia project from descending into chaos. Right now, Belgaum has only been announced as the second capital, and this fact has been mentioned adequately.

Nonetheless, I have retained the info that you wanted to add about the Vidhana Soudha in the "Buildings" section. I have also commented out the line whose reference source link was dead.

It is not my intention to sound rude or condescending. I just wanted you to realize that basing your inputs on emotional rhetoric is not the way to build an encylopedia. Thanks, Max ^{- You were saying?} 18:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear All, Can we elaborate some of the Great Saints in Belgaum District We can provide biographies on all of them too. This can also demonstrate the spiritual richness of Belgaum Some of them who can be included - Shri Shivabasav swamiji,Naganur matha,Belgaavi - Shri Murgod mahant swamiji, Murgod,Belgaavi - Shri Durdundeshwar nijalingeshwar swamiji,Nidasoshi,Belgaavi - Sri Kalavati Aai (Hari Mandir Angol Belgaum) - Shri Arabhavi math,Gokak,Belgaavi - Shri Swamiji of Inchal math,Bailhongal,Belgaavi - Shri Swamiji of Bootharaman Hatti, Belgaavi - Sri Panth Maharaj of Balekundari (Panth Balekundari Belgaum) - Sri Hari Kaka - Article on Visit of Swami Vivekanada in Belgaum - Sant Rajaram (Rajaram Temple in Goaves, Belgaum)

Let me know your views.

Regards, Raghavendra —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ragha070 (talk • contribs) 10:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Special Economic Zone coming up for precision engineering. It will be good for the local economy as the Special Economic Zone will generate a lot of job opportunities and bring some big names in Aerospace, Automotive and Industrial engineering industries. More details are available on [3]Rahul.baliga 10:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)Rahul Baliga[reply]

Belgaum, owing to its cultural mix of Karnataka, Maharashtra and Goa has a varied musical influence. Predominantly Bollywood films dominate most listening preferences on a general platform. Belgaum, however has its roots into Indian Classical Music, with greats like Smt Gangubai Hangal, Pt Bhimsen Joshi and a horde of others having performed here regularly. The SPIC MACAY organisational efforts often had a thronging audience to all Indian Classical events showcased proving Belgaum of its roots into more specific and serious music as well. Locally, Sri Bandu Master Kulkarni (tabla) and his son Santosh Kulkarni (tabla), also many more like Sri Sudhanshu Kulkarni (vocals, harmonium) have been fore runners in terms of organising local shows, training young children and college goers alike.

Belgaum, also growing up urban has its share of interest in Rock Music, with bands formed in Belgaum as early as in the late 70s. WREN was one of the first bands to feature from Belgaum and performing concerts at college gatherings and private events. Theo (from Camp) has been one of the popular guitar tutors and he has expertise in country, light blues and gospel music. Many bands were formed in the early nineties from both colleges Gogte Institute of Technology and the J Nehru Medical College. Remo, and his band performed to a packed audience in the early nineties in Belgaum and many Goan bands still perform at events in Belgaum. Some of the bands that were formed and played live music in Belgaum: WREN,

Uttangi and the paradoxides,

Dryness Fraction,

DemiUrge,

The Edge,

Antibiotic,

Krypt,

Konkrete,

Muzik Oxide,

Idioteque,

As far as I know, the name of Bangalore has been changed to Bengaluru. So, all instances of Bangalore should be changed to Bengaluru. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.37.168 (talk) 06:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

      Kindly visit Banglore page for more information about this.

Under the Economy of the City, Add the Textile Industry, mainly spread around Vadagaon, Khasbag area's. Here mainly Polyster, Silk and cotton mixed sarees are manufactured.

125.16.94.129 (talk) 06:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]