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== Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2023 ==
== Literacy ==


{{edit semi-protected|Belgaum|answered=yes}}
I think the literacy numbers are incorrect. If 54% of men are literate and 45% of women, then how come total literacy is 78%??.
1. Wiki header should be changed to " Belagavi" and article informatio. should contain the unofficial name or old name Belagaum inside the article . It seems to be the other way round.
2. More edit requests will follow once the first one is rectified. [[Special:Contributions/2601:40B:8402:4920:992A:7765:5EFB:E6BE|2601:40B:8402:4920:992A:7765:5EFB:E6BE]] ([[User talk:2601:40B:8402:4920:992A:7765:5EFB:E6BE|talk]]) 14:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> see [[WP:ON]] [[User:SmallJarsWithGreenLabels|small jars]] <small><code>[[User talk:SmallJarsWithGreenLabels|<b style="color:#270">t</b>]][[special:contributions/SmallJarsWithGreenLabels|<b style="color:#270">c</b>]]</code></small> 16:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)


== Requested move 12 March 2023 ==
[[User:Leotolstoy|Leotolstoy]] 20:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


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The result of the move request was: '''not moved.''' Consensus is that Belgaum is still the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] at this time. <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:ModernDayTrilobite|ModernDayTrilobite]] ([[User talk:ModernDayTrilobite|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ModernDayTrilobite|contribs]]) 19:14, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
This article is currently experiencing edit-wars. It may make sense to semi-protect it until the anons get tired of this game. [[User:Achitnis|Achitnis]] 14:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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:Thanks Achitnis. I have invited (in the edit summary) the anon to participate in the discussion. Hope that will put an end to edit-war. - [[User:KNM|KNM]] <sup> '''[[:User_talk:KNM|Talk]]'''</sup> 19:56, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
dont remove belgaon.
:: IMO, all parties involved should stop reverting each other. The article is not so bad that it should be semi-protected. Just don't revert and discuss here. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 06:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

belgaon has more marathi people than kannad.
The Belgaum district was incorporated into the newly formed Mysore state (now Karnataka) with the passage of the States Reorganisation Act (1956), which reorganised India's states along linguistic lines despite having a large Marathi-speaking population [4]; about three-fourths of the total population.[5]. Since then Maharashtra is claiming the district to itself and the case is now in Supreme court of India.

== Revert ==

I reverted[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Belgaum&diff=89192822&oldid=89183370] edits by [[Special:Contributions/59.95.28.241|59.95.28.241]], because no rationale was provided for the changes made (changing the alphabetical order in which the languages were listed and removing the sentence about the Airport). [[User:Utcursch|utcursch]] | [[User talk:Utcursch|talk]] 08:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

belgaon has more marathi people so marathi name should come first.

:That's not an explanation for removing information about the Airport. [[User:Utcursch|utcursch]] | [[User talk:Utcursch|talk]] 12:54, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandigarh has punjabi first than hindi. sorry for removing airport information.

==Edit wars by [[User:Sarvabhaum]]==

Please stop your edit war using an [[WP:SPA]] on this page. The order of transliteration is a trivial issue, and Kannada being the administrative language of the Belgaum deserves to be first. I am reverting it once again and if you continue your revert war, I will stop any further reverts as per [[WP:DFTT]]. You are free to continue your pointless reverts until an admin looks into this. Also, please stop terming content disputes as vandalism. -- [[User:Naveenbm|<font color="Blue"><b>Naveen</b></font>]] <sup><i>([[User_talk:Naveenbm|talk]])</i></sup> 13:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
: I have blocked [[User:Bell Ga On]] indefinitely as a disruptive SPA and sock of [[User:Arya Rajya Maharashtra]]. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 13:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::I confirm that this result was reached by me using CheckUser. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 06:34, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
On what basis have you blocked me. Who is Arya Rajya Maharashtra ? I am not a sock of anyone. And what disruptive edits did I make ? Please don't use administrator powers for wrong purposes. [[User:Bel Ga On|Bel Ga On]] 14:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

:Exactly. Naveenbm himself is a troll. On what basis u allege Bell as being a sock. I am sorry but u have no right. have u people read the explaination before doing a unilateral edit? [[User:Sarvabhaum|Sarvabhaum]] 04:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Belgaon has more marathi people so marathi name should come first (see the article's border dispute sub-section)[http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=109230]
and the marathi script should come first as it is '''more''' relevent that kannada. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandigarh where Punjabi is first followed by Hindi, naturally because Chandigarh has more Punjabis than Hindis.
[[User:Sarvabhaum|Sarvabhaum]] 04:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Marathi is a far more recent language than Kannada and also now there is no Belgaum its BELAGAAVI.
At present Kannadiga and Marathi population are same.
Sarvabhaum is spreading vandalism .Boycott him.
Sarvabhaum is causing vandalism and

:belgavi is not used by common people or newspapers It is still Belgaum for all [http://news.google.co.in/news?q=belgaum&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&tab=wn&scoring=d 1]. Belgaum has more Marathi population so Marathi should come first as in [[Chandigarh]] where Punjabi is before Hindi. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/59.95.33.40|59.95.33.40]] ([[User talk:59.95.33.40|talk]]) 06:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

The new name is not yet being used or approved by Central government. Search for Belgavi [http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=belgavi&btnG=Search+News gives very few returns]. Same is with [[Bangalore]] Also consider Marathi script first than Kannada script for the simple fact that Marathi speakers are more in number there.06:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Just go through the recent census this year and you will find both Kannada and Marathi population same.There a re few villages which have total Marathis .Also there are few in Maharashtra where complete Kannada is there.Please check it up.Karnataka has 2-5ths of India's backward people inside it who can be attracted anywhere.This is the fate that we got by state reorganisation and thats why Karnataka's representation is poor at centre.That is the root cause for all this.But still we tolerate for the country.But if this is the case we won't tolerate anymore!!!
Just because we allowed Maratha light infantry there doesn't mean it is marathi.We also have a Madras Engg group in Bengalooru doesn't mean Bengaloor is Tamil.
We have 5 states neighbouring with different tongues.We respect every tongue until they are tongues .When they spread venom we cut them.
Don't go by google search .I can search for most prostitutes and find Mumbai in it!
Don't spread vandalism.If we call Belagaavi its because its official from Nov 1 2006 by Karnataka GovernmentYou see Kannada boards in all places now in Belagaavi.Have a look.

== Belgaum or Belagaavi? ==

Has Belgaum's name changed to Belagaavi officially? All citations regarding the renaming are worded in the future tense. Although the date of Nov 1 is long gone, there's no government or media website which says that the name is now Belagaavi for official purposes.

I've taken a cue from the [[Bangalore]] and [[Mangalore]] articles (because those cities are in the same boat) and have slightly modified the opening sentence. I hope it reflects the future tense reports of the cited sources more accurately.

<font face="Verdana"><b>[[User:MaximvsDecimvs|Max]]</b> <sup> - [[User_talk:MaximvsDecimvs|You were saying?]]</sup></font> 18:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

:I haven't seen any official notice yet, so retaining the original name for now is probably prudent. It will be a decade before the new name is in common use. [[User:Achitnis|Achitnis]] 17:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

::Agreed. One just needs to be wary of the edits of language hawks who try to "put things right" :-). - <font face="Verdana"><b>[[User:MaximvsDecimvs|Max]]</b> <sup> - [[User_talk:MaximvsDecimvs|You were saying?]]</sup></font> 06:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

== Population / literacy rate errors ==

The article states population division as 51% male and 49% female, overall literacy rate as 78% and female / male literacy as 46% / 54%!!. Simple arithmetic shows that either the overall literacy rate is wrong or the literacy rate split is wrong.

54% of 51% (male literacy) is equal to 27.54%. 46% of 49% is equal to 22.54%. If you total the two you get 50.08%, which is well below the national average.

However, knowing Belgaum as I do, I am inclined to believe the 78% figure. Looks like the author has taken overall literacy rate from the latest census while quoting the male / female literacy split from an earlier census or a different source. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Tsagar|Tsagar]] ([[User talk:Tsagar|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tsagar|contribs]]) 09:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

== Status ==

Please note that at this time, the city has NOT been renamed, following a central government order. Also it is untrue that Belgaum is to become the second capital of Karnataka - that was a suggestion that was never implemented. [[User:Achitnis|Achitnis]] 12:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)


The city is already renamed by Karnataka government as Belagaavi.Since a centre's involvement will only be for formality as it is completely under state's control and it's natural that state will oppose centre's decision if it makes any politics involving Shiv sena and Maharashtra congress as Sonia Gandhi did with President's post.
When Cheif Minister is laying foundation for a legislative complex it can mean only one thing that is capital.
Also read the news article carefully and wait for tomorrow.
[[User:Kali-K|Kali-K]] 14:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

:Hello Kali-K,<br/>
:Thanks you for your inputs. Unfortunately, they had to be undone. Let me explain why. Please note that Wikipedia does not give credence to [[WP:NOR|original research or unverified claims]]. All we know for now is that the Central Government has refused to rename the city. Your arguments in the post above sound like your own opinions and conclusions, and regrettably, they cannot be the basis for adding information to the article. Also, neither your reference (New Indian Express) nor the official websites of the Government of Karnataka and the Belgaum City Corporation mention anything about Belgaum being made the second capital (I am not referring to mere announcements but the actual fact of the city being made the second capital). We have to stick to information that has already been published in mainstream, [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. In light of this, I am sure you will appreciate why your inputs were rolled back. Thank you, <font face="Verdana"><b>[[User:MaximvsDecimvs|Max]]</b> <sup> - [[User_talk:MaximvsDecimvs|You were saying?]]</sup></font> 19:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

:Hey Max
:I do understand your request but you must understand one thing that Indian state centre relationship is not a prominent one. Even now there are quesitons over state reorganisation. Hope you have an idea of European countries and not a Central Govt for Europe. And we come in between American states and European Union. A home minister(Shivaraj Patil from Maharashtra raises objection over renaming a state district) and a political party president(Sonia Gandhi) commands here for country's President post and a Shiv Sena head (Bal Thackerey of Maharashtra) tells a outgoing President like Kalam as his term is over!But still they cover up their inability to do anything when two legislative assembly members from Maharashtra (Manohar Kini + one more) gets their faces black painted because they know they are doing politics over a place which hasn't seen development over 6 decades and when someone as enthusiastic as Kunaraswamy tries a change want to give him a opposition just to promote congress in Karnataka! When Maharashtra cannot look after Mumbai - known for underworld which has spread to other parts like wildfire and uncontrollable prostitution and highest AIDS cases and burgeoning population of over 8 crores!! why does it want an extra district. Today the Chief Minister of Karnataka (hope you understand what is chief minister to a state) has laid foundation for legislature there(google up for news. I won't post the link as it may not meet up your sources).This is India. Wake up Buddy.[[User:Kali-K|Kali-K]] 14:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

::Hello Kali-K,<br/>
::Again, I must point you to the policies. Please read the policies of [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], [[WP:V|verifiability]] and [[WP:NOR|no original research]] which are a few of the pillars upon which Wikipedia is built. Whatever you said above are '''your own''' conjectures and opinions, and even if I or anyone else agrees with you personally, they do '''not''' make a difference to the encyclopedia. Remember, Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thoughts or self-made conclusions - it is only a collection of knowledge that already exists. You cannot draw your own inferences (e.g. since the Vidhana Soudha is being built, therefore Belgaum must be the second capital, or that it must be called "Belagaavi") and then put them up here. Theoretically, every sentence on Wikipedia needs a source - a reliable, verifiable reference that is the origin to which that sentence can be attributed. I know this sounds a bit bureaucratic, but it's the best way that keeps the Wikipedia project from descending into chaos. Right now, Belgaum has only been announced as the second capital, and this fact has been mentioned adequately.

::Nonetheless, I have retained the info that you wanted to add about the Vidhana Soudha in the "Buildings" section. I have also commented out the line whose reference source link was dead.


[[:Belgaum]] → {{no redirect|Belagavi}} – official name was changed in 2014, and Majority of the Reliable sources published after that are using the "Belagavi" so as per [[WP:NAMECHANGES]] the article is eligible to rename as "Belagavi" , Sources which are using "Belagavi" : [[The Hindu]], [[The Times of India]], [[The Indian Express]], [[Deccan Herald]], [[Mint (newspaper)]], [[Asian News International]], [[Hindustan Times]], [[Free Press Journal]] etc ... . [[User:ಹುಲಿ|'''ಹುಲಿ🐯''']]<sup>[[User talk:ಹುಲಿ| talk]]</sup> 20:22, 12 March 2023 (UTC) <small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;[[User:Adumbrativus|Adumbrativus]] ([[User talk:Adumbrativus|talk]]) 03:26, 21 March 2023 (UTC)</small>
::It is not my intention to sound rude or condescending. I just wanted you to realize that basing your inputs on emotional rhetoric is not the way to build an encylopedia. Thanks, <font face="Verdana"><b>[[User:MaximvsDecimvs|Max]]</b> <sup> - [[User_talk:MaximvsDecimvs|You were saying?]]</sup></font> 18:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' Wikipedia is a world-wide encyclopedia, and the [[WP:Commonname]] is determined by what English speakers, the world over, most readily recognise. Local media do not reflect this world-wide situation, as most of their readership readily knows both names, Although only a very crude measure a Google search for [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Belguam&ie=UTF-8&oe= Belguam] gives 66.3 million hits, whereas [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Belagavi&sxsrf=AJOqlzXDstf3AtaGlrPuBp3lKOQ0BwPZAA%3A1678653189774&ei=BTcOZJzlLvKg8gKyxZ-gDw&ved=0ahUKEwjc-864ntf9AhVykFwKHbLiB_QQ4dUDCA8&oq=Belagavi&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQDDIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwA0oECEEYAFAAWABg0yZoAXABeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQDIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp Belgavi] gives just 12 million - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 20:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
:'''comment''' another reason to support move as per [[WP:COMMONNAME]] : quality encyclopedias ;[[Britannica]] :- https://www.britannica.com/place/Belagavi [[User:ಹುಲಿ|'''ಹುಲಿ🐯''']]<sup>[[User talk:ಹುಲಿ| talk]]</sup> 21:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
* '''Support''' based on Google News search results, it seems clear that Belagavi is now the common name. [[User:Walt Yoder|Walt Yoder]] ([[User talk:Walt Yoder|talk]]) 03:21, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Arjayay. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 14:41, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Comment'''. As was the case at the time of the last move request [[/Archive 3#Requested move 11 August 2018|5 years ago]], in [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Belgaum,Belagavi Worldwide Google Trends], and for what it's worth, [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=IN&q=Belgaum,Belagavi in India] and [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=IN-KA&q=Belgaum,Belagavi in Karnataka], Belgaum still outpaces Belagavi. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 04:24, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/21/they-cut-him-into-pieces-indias-love-jihad-conspiracy-theory-turns-lethal [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 09:43, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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== Great Saints in and Around Belgaum ==
== Needs change of city name to Belagavi ==


The name of the city has been officially changed as Belagavi[https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/centre-clears-name-change-plan-belgaum-is-now-belagavi/] on 1st November 2014 by Government of Karnataka, with approval of Ministry of Home Affairs, Government of India. [[User:Djsourabh.bwd|Djsourabh.bwd]] ([[User talk:Djsourabh.bwd|talk]]) 17:37, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Dear All,
Can we elaborate some of the Great Saints in Belgaum District
We can provide biographies on all of them too. This can also demonstrate the spiritual richness of Belgaum
Some of them who can be included
- Sri Kalavati Aai (Hari Mandir Angol Belgaum)
- Sri Panth Maharaj of Balekundari (Panth Balekundari Belgaum)
- Sri Hari Kaka
- Article on Visit of Swami Vivekanada in Belgaum
- Sant Rajaram (Rajaram Temple in Goaves, Belgaum)


:Look at the section immediately above this one - there was a requested move discussion about this, which failed. [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 17:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
::If not, change the name of this page [[User:Djsourabh.bwd|Djsourabh.bwd]] ([[User talk:Djsourabh.bwd|talk]]) 17:42, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
:::No. It was decided not to do that in the RM discussion above. [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 17:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


== Change of title from Belgaum to Belagavi. ==
Let me know your views.


Majority of the English speakers use the name Belagavi in their conversations. It is now time to change the title of this page from Belgaum to Belagavi. [[Special:Contributions/2409:40F2:1007:3A71:98F:9C80:3DA4:EA2B|2409:40F2:1007:3A71:98F:9C80:3DA4:EA2B]] ([[User talk:2409:40F2:1007:3A71:98F:9C80:3DA4:EA2B|talk]]) 08:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Regards,
:Please provide the evidence for your claim - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 12:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Raghavendra <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ragha070|Ragha070]] ([[User talk:Ragha070|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ragha070|contribs]]) 10:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Article name must be changed to Belagavi. ==
== SEZ Belgaum ==


On 1st November 2014, names of 12 Karnataka cities changed. Belgaum was changed as Belagavi. Then union home minister Rajnath Singh gave his approval to the proposal of the Karnataka government made on October 27, 2006 to change the names of the 12 towns and cities in consonance with their pronunciation in Kannada language. <ref>url=https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/karnataka-belgaum-mysore-names-of-12-cities-changed-kannada-223614-2014-10-17<ref> [[User:Djsourabh.bwd|Djsourabh.bwd]] ([[User talk:Djsourabh.bwd|talk]]) 09:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
There is a Special Economic Zone coming up for precision engineering. It will be good for the local economy as the Special Economic Zone will generate a lot of job opportunities and bring some big names in Aerospace, Automotive and Industrial engineering industries. More details are available on [http://www.quest-sez.com][[User:Rahul.baliga|Rahul.baliga]] 10:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)Rahul Baliga
:We obviously know that, since the article clearly states "'''Belgaum''' also '''Belgaon''' and officially known as '''Belagavi'''".<br>As this is the English Wikipedia, we use the [[WP:Common name|Common name]] in English, not the [[WP:Official name|Official name]], or the name in Kannada. If the common name in English eventually changes, we will change our article title, as we did with Mumbai. However [[Bangalore]] was changed to Bengaluru in 2006, and the continued use of Bangalore for our article title has passed 14 move discussions. - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 10:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
::Its not true. You have a misconception. Belagavi is the only common name. From city to district administration every official government website uses Belagavi.
::Apart from that all national level medias use the common name Belagavi. For your reference :
::1.Moneycontrol |Title=Jagadish Shettar retains BJP bastion Belagavi in Karnataka
::Url=https://www.moneycontrol.com/elections/lok-sabha-election/karnataka-belagavi-bjp-jagadish-shettar-congress-mrunal-ravindra-hebbalkar-election-2024-result-article-12739669.ht
::ml
::2.Deccan Herald |Title=Lok Sabha Elections 2024: Belagavi constituency result
::Url=https://www.deccanherald.com/elections/india/lok-sabha-elections-2024-belagavi-constituency-result-3030640
::3.The Hindu |Title=PM Modi to reach Belagavi tomorrow
::Url=
::https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/pm-modi-to-reach-belagavi-tomorrow/article68105884.e
::ce
::4.Times Of India |Title=Belagavi Ministers All Set To Launch Next Gen In LS Polls
::Rrl=ead more at :
::https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hubballi/belagavi-ministers-launch-next-gen-in-2024-ls-polls/articleshow/108599824.c
::Kindly respect the emotions of local people. Don't do false common name statements here. [[User:Djsourabh.bwd|Djsourabh.bwd]] ([[User talk:Djsourabh.bwd|talk]]) 18:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Please read the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] policy properly. We use the commonly used name in English language sources from all over the world. "{{tq|respect the emotions of local people}}" ← doesn't work like that otherwise we would have name the [[Germany]] article as [[Deutschland]]. Latter is just a redirect similar to [[Belagavi]] in this case. - [[User:Fylindfotberserk|Fylindfotberserk]] ([[User talk:Fylindfotberserk|talk]]) 19:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:02, 8 June 2024

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2023

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1. Wiki header should be changed to " Belagavi" and article informatio. should contain the unofficial name or old name Belagaum inside the article . It seems to be the other way round. 2. More edit requests will follow once the first one is rectified. 2601:40B:8402:4920:992A:7765:5EFB:E6BE (talk) 14:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: see WP:ON small jars tc 16:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 March 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is that Belgaum is still the WP:COMMONNAME at this time. (non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:14, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Belgaum → Belagavi – official name was changed in 2014, and Majority of the Reliable sources published after that are using the "Belagavi" so as per WP:NAMECHANGES the article is eligible to rename as "Belagavi" , Sources which are using "Belagavi" : The Hindu, The Times of India, The Indian Express, Deccan Herald, Mint (newspaper), Asian News International, Hindustan Times, Free Press Journal etc ... . ಹುಲಿ🐯 talk 20:22, 12 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 03:26, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Wikipedia is a world-wide encyclopedia, and the WP:Commonname is determined by what English speakers, the world over, most readily recognise. Local media do not reflect this world-wide situation, as most of their readership readily knows both names, Although only a very crude measure a Google search for Belguam gives 66.3 million hits, whereas Belgavi gives just 12 million - Arjayay (talk) 20:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
comment another reason to support move as per WP:COMMONNAME : quality encyclopedias ;Britannica :- https://www.britannica.com/place/Belagavi ಹುಲಿ🐯 talk 21:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Needs change of city name to Belagavi

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The name of the city has been officially changed as Belagavi[1] on 1st November 2014 by Government of Karnataka, with approval of Ministry of Home Affairs, Government of India. Djsourabh.bwd (talk) 17:37, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the section immediately above this one - there was a requested move discussion about this, which failed. MrOllie (talk) 17:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If not, change the name of this page Djsourabh.bwd (talk) 17:42, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No. It was decided not to do that in the RM discussion above. MrOllie (talk) 17:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change of title from Belgaum to Belagavi.

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Majority of the English speakers use the name Belagavi in their conversations. It is now time to change the title of this page from Belgaum to Belagavi. 2409:40F2:1007:3A71:98F:9C80:3DA4:EA2B (talk) 08:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide the evidence for your claim - Arjayay (talk) 12:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article name must be changed to Belagavi.

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On 1st November 2014, names of 12 Karnataka cities changed. Belgaum was changed as Belagavi. Then union home minister Rajnath Singh gave his approval to the proposal of the Karnataka government made on October 27, 2006 to change the names of the 12 towns and cities in consonance with their pronunciation in Kannada language. <ref>url=https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/karnataka-belgaum-mysore-names-of-12-cities-changed-kannada-223614-2014-10-17<ref> Djsourabh.bwd (talk) 09:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We obviously know that, since the article clearly states "Belgaum also Belgaon and officially known as Belagavi".
As this is the English Wikipedia, we use the Common name in English, not the Official name, or the name in Kannada. If the common name in English eventually changes, we will change our article title, as we did with Mumbai. However Bangalore was changed to Bengaluru in 2006, and the continued use of Bangalore for our article title has passed 14 move discussions. - Arjayay (talk) 10:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Its not true. You have a misconception. Belagavi is the only common name. From city to district administration every official government website uses Belagavi.
Apart from that all national level medias use the common name Belagavi. For your reference :
1.Moneycontrol |Title=Jagadish Shettar retains BJP bastion Belagavi in Karnataka
Url=https://www.moneycontrol.com/elections/lok-sabha-election/karnataka-belagavi-bjp-jagadish-shettar-congress-mrunal-ravindra-hebbalkar-election-2024-result-article-12739669.ht
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2.Deccan Herald |Title=Lok Sabha Elections 2024: Belagavi constituency result
Url=https://www.deccanherald.com/elections/india/lok-sabha-elections-2024-belagavi-constituency-result-3030640
3.The Hindu |Title=PM Modi to reach Belagavi tomorrow
Url=
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/pm-modi-to-reach-belagavi-tomorrow/article68105884.e
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4.Times Of India |Title=Belagavi Ministers All Set To Launch Next Gen In LS Polls
Rrl=ead more at :
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hubballi/belagavi-ministers-launch-next-gen-in-2024-ls-polls/articleshow/108599824.c
Kindly respect the emotions of local people. Don't do false common name statements here. Djsourabh.bwd (talk) 18:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the WP:COMMONNAME policy properly. We use the commonly used name in English language sources from all over the world. "respect the emotions of local people" ← doesn't work like that otherwise we would have name the Germany article as Deutschland. Latter is just a redirect similar to Belagavi in this case. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Belgaum&diff=1227963961&oldid=175687837

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