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Most sources are now describing it as an assassination attempt and not a shooting. Lukt64 (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would the talk page have to be redirected here too, or just left at that (now) redirect? Sadustu Tau (talk) 18:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to go through WP:RM, not do what you did Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 20:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So is this article going to be in UK english seen as it's Europe? Kiwiz1338 (talk) 18:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would say so. The Wiki article for Slovakia uses British English, so I would say makes sense for an article relating to the Prime Minister of Slovakia. Sadustu Tau (talk) 18:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nurg keep in mind WP:TPO Kiwiz1338 (talk) 00:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article should update the (severity of the) injuries. Initial reports just said one bullet hit the stomach; then later reports said there was a head injury and other injuries. This information should be known by the medical team already, so assumingly status update may be issued, which should be stored in the wikipedia article as well. 2A02:8388:1643:D680:663F:A873:E90A:DE2A (talk) 18:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would probably require a bit of shuffling around or change of sources since there seem to be contradictory information about that in the article right now. Sadustu Tau (talk) 18:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it would be foolish for us to publish any information that is still highly speculative. Let's wait a little longer. Dingus1233 (talk) 18:55, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided a clear source for the fact that the motive is currently not fully known. Dingus1233 (talk) 18:54, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We know the suspect was a member of a liberal party. We know it's a bad look for liberals, so Wiki will probably look to scrub that. 70.53.153.52 (talk) 20:13, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source? Lukt64 (talk) 20:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/europe/writer-juraj-cintula-behind-slovak-pm-robert-fico-shooting-local-media-article-110154554 70.53.153.52 (talk) 20:55, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what a hilarious response, you're terrible at this JaacTreee (talk) 21:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Slovakia "country’s Interior Ministrer Matus Sutaj-Estok said a preliminary investigation revealed the gunman had a political motivation for the assassination attempt, multiple outlets reported." Notable source:

• https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2024/05/15/slovakias-prime-minister-robert-fico-shot/?sh=b1db33869054
• https://archive.ph/qRGym

Francewhoa (talk) 20:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Euronews reports that the shooter was associated with a pro-Russian militia, Slovenskí Branci, and his writing was hostile to immigration and Roma. [1] Fences&Windows 20:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We must remember Wikipedia's rule of 'innocent until proven guilty.' Therefore, we cannot publicize any political motives without being one hundred percent sure of who the exact shooter was. Dingus1233 (talk) 20:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, a pro-Russian and anti-immigration militant shooting a pro-Russian and anti-immigration PM. Makes sense. 70.53.153.52 (talk) 20:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to get the attention of Wikipidia admins here: @Lukt64 appear to have deleted contents from Shooting of Robert Fico which contained the article's initial history onto this without a discussion and appears to go unnoticed. I am requesting this be deleted and transferred onto the previous one where it can join with its history. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 20:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that the shooting be merged here, most sources are calling it an assassination so that it would be consistent Lukt64 (talk) 20:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is not how you merge contents FYI @Lukt64 Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 20:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pinging @Zzuuzz because you seem to be the editor in direct conflict with me and not reading any of the messages I'm trying to send to you Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 20:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I got their message. @Lukt64 the discussion is on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard now Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 20:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the abrupt undiscussed redirect and improper paste by @Lukt64 is problematic and should have been brought up for discussion. This resulted in a poor copy-paste edit that interrupts about 3 hours of activity (160 edits) [2]. It's pretty messy to clean up at this point, so I'm not sure what the best solution is. - Fuzheado | Talk 21:05, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm astonished nobody raised this issue the moment the editor copy + pasted. Even if it was heavily edited, anyone with this page in their watchlist would've seen over 12K b deleted and replaced. Assuming this was watched by the active editors Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 21:08, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fuzheado I realised we could do a complex history merge performed by an admin. Tho I'm not sure how to do the request for such Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 22:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They have confirmed Fico is stable and he will survive. Robert Fico shot: Major condition update on Slovakian Prime Minister after assassination attempt - World News - Mirror Online Slovakia PM Robert Fico ‘fighting for life’ after five shots fired in ‘politically motivated’ attack, ministers say – live updates (msn.com) 2607:FEA8:7221:F600:7020:4416:AF63:D069 (talk) 20:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not exactly true. Slovak news report that, however, it hasn't been officially confirmed by the government. The only somewhat reliable source for that is statement of one of ministers (T. Taraba) to BBC. And Wikipedia shouldn't be a news so we can wait. --Pan Někdo (talk) 21:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Media are now reporting the suspect’s name as Juraj Cintula. [3] 2604:2D80:7186:600:0:0:0:164C (talk) 21:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Fico was giving a speech to a crowd at the time of the shooting."

That's not linguistically correct. He was talking to the crowd and shaking their hands, not a formal speech. 2A00:23C8:4F06:4F01:957F:2FDB:48D3:FEBB (talk) 21:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Nurg (talk) 00:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are we really allowed to name a suspect at this stage??? Borgenland (talk) 00:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the "Response" section, it is stated:

Andrej Danko, deputy Prime Minister of Slovakia and leader of the nationalist Slovak National Party, blamed the political opposition and media for the attack and said the country was heading for "political war"

However, the page for Andrej Danko does not list him as Deputy Prime Minister. The list of Deputy Prime Ministers is found in the page for Robert Fico:

Robert Kaliňák

Peter Kmec

Denisa Saková

Tomáš Taraba

Andrej Danko is the leader of the Slovak National Party and Deputy Speaker of the National Council of Slovakia 131.203.73.86 (talk) 01:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taraba said one bullet went through Fico's stomach and a second hit a joint.

Taraba said the prime minister “was heavily injured" with one bullet entering his stomach and another hitting the joints.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/robert-fico-slovakia-prime-minister-shooting-05-15-24/index.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/shooting-after-slovak-government-meeting-tasr-agency-reports-2024-05-15/

Early reports said head shot, but it seems more recent stories are saying there were two shots to stomach and joints, and that he is expected to survive, Article should be amended to remove the head shot claim. Midgetman433 (talk) 02:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]