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I'd love to see any references about Ryan and this "great speculation" and the Senate hearings. Marcosson's book (I know it's not exactly unbiased) more or less says the government was investigating the copper industry as a whole, and that the charges were unfounded. No mention of Ryan dying in poverty (this I specifically doubt since he was still the head of Anaconda), just that when he suddenly died, Kelley took over. If he died in such shame, it's strange that 2000 mourners showed up at his funeral mass in New York, presided over by the Archbishop of St. Paul. BSMet94 23:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is some information here about Percy Rockefeller, from a 1932 Time magazine. This article, not based on Wikipedia, says he died nearly broke, whatever that means. And this one reports that Ryan died three days before the banking hearings began. I’m not at all certain that this helps things any; I might be able to find out more with some non-internet research (I live in Butte), but not today. Definitely typical of the mysteries and machinations of the leaders of Butte! Cheers! Geologyguy 00:33, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Checked out those links. Interesting articles. I see why the disclaimer at the top of this article... nothing had a hard reference. Also, this article has lifted a lot of text directly from those print sources. Someone needs to do a little deleting and re-writing.BSMet94 03:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The lack of labor relations in this story consitutes a serious POV weakness. EcoRover 18:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, when this article first appeared it was a rambling narrative, and much of that is still here. Might almost be better to start from scratch. Cheers Geologyguy 19:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on lack of information re labor activities. And yes, this article needs a lot of work to make it more than the paraphrased merger of several unreferenced newspaper and news magazine articles.BSMet94 15:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for cleaning up the superfund section! That's a start...BSMet94 15:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Now that some verifiable information is starting to creep into this article, we should work on getting it past the "story to read" stage, and 86-ing the "special note." Anaconda was a real company and hard records exist documenting its history. There's no need for an article about Anaconda with a disclaimer saying it's purely anecdotal. BSMet94 20:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am the author of original article. I appreciate the "to the point" discussion on this small forum. Also most of the changes you've made to the original article are very relevant. A few days ago I found well documented and condensed info about Anaconda Copper (from the U.S. Bureau of Mines Information Circular). Unfortunately I am too busy now to implement it in a clever way to the main text of the article. If anyone of you can do it, it will be very profitable for the credibility of the article. I enclose that info below. Paul R.

U.S. Bureau of Mines Information Circular 8225 Copper – A Materials Survey, by A.D. McMahon

UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF MINES 1965

The Anaconda Company - 25 Broadway, New York - incorporated June 18, 1805, in Montana, as Anaconda Copper Mining Co.; name was changed to The Anaconda Company June 18, 1955. The company and subsidiaries were engaged in: mining, milling, and smelting nonferrous metal ores (mostly copper, zinc and aluminum); refining and selling the metals obtained from these ores; fabricating semifinished and finished copper and brass products; producing and fabricating aluminum; mining and processing uranium and manganese ores; and recovering, treating, and selling byproduct metals. The principal metals recovered from ores treated are copper, lead, and zinc; however, silver, gold, arsenic, cadmium, chromium, vanadium, selenium, and tellurium, also are recovered.

Capitalisation (December 31, 1960): $ 600,000,000 in 12,000,000 shares of $50 each; 10,715,127 shares outstanding,.

Assets and liabilities (December 31, 1960): total current assets $276,211,000 total current liabilities $58,145,353

Employees, (1960): 37,000.

The company is both an operating and holding organization, having control of substantial stockholdings in the following subsidiaries:

Companies 100 percent owned: • Anaconda Alumnum Co. • Anaconda-American Brass Co. • Anaconda-American Brass, Ltd., Canada. • Anaconda Building Materials Co. • Anaconda Iron Ore (Ontario) Ltd • Anaconda Sales Co. • Butte Anaconda & Pacific Railway Co. • International Smelting and Refining Co. • Montana Hardware Co.

Mines: Principal mining operations in the United States are at Butte, Mont.: Yerington. Nev.; and near Grants, N.M. The company also produces uranium bearing ores from the open-pit Jackpile mine in New Mexico and a uranium processing plant at Blue-Water, New Mexico.

Company subsidiaries own and operate the following large mines in Chile: • Chuquicamata Mine - the largest copper mine in the world, Chuquicamata, is operated by Chile Exploration Co., a wholly owned subsidiary of Chile Copper Co., which in turn is 99.756-percent owned by The Anaconda Company. • El Salvador Mine • La Africana Mine.

In Mexico Anaconda owns the copper mine Compania Minera de Cananea, S.A.

In the United States The Anaconda Company has a copper smelter at Anaconda, Mont., having an annual capacity of 1 million tons of charge, and a lead smelter at Tooele, Utah, having a capacity of 300,000 tons of lead. Copper refineries are at Great Falls, Mont., and Perth Amboy, N.J.