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I removed the following statement (originally posted by 62.252.224.12) due to POV:

The Amhara are known for their beauty, as exemplified by the supermodel Liya Kebede.

As for the example of Liya Kebede, that article is already categorized under Category:Ethiopian models, which is more properly NPOV. I've made an attempt at re-wording it in this article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:42, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Dear wikipedians, the picture on the article page which represents the Amhara is old and very out-dated. Are there not more accurate and more current pictures which depict the Amhara people than this? Can you please get some newer, more current pictures please? -Kim

Ms Sarah Welch, Levine is alluding to the battle captives from other local Afro-Asiatic-speaking noble groups. The perception, capture, treatment and duties of these related peoples was completely different from that of the unrelated Shanqella. This is explained here. Soupforone (talk) 03:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Soupforone: Not quite. It is broader. The exact quote is self-explanatory. Have you checked the page 57 of Abir by the way? I see the Nilotic etc part in the other wikipedia article, but I don't see the support on page 57 of Abir. Do you have another source, or page number? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 04:03, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Levine indicates that most slaves were drawn from the Sudanic tribes (i.e., Nilotic). These groups are locally known as the Shanqella/barya. This is why "barya" is also the term for slave in Amharic [1]. Soupforone (talk) 05:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Abel Gebremariam: please don't repeatedly remove the "refimprove-section" tag, as you did here, without adding sources that support everything in the first and second paragraph of this section. Alternatively please delete the unsourced paragraphs and sentences, then remove the tag. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 12:59, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello moderators,

Social stratification is highlighted in the Amhara people page, but i noticed that the sources are not correct/false or at least questionable.

Source 35. Leads to a title but no article ^[1]

Source 37. Leads to a Cambridge site with no mention of Amhara or any other ethnic group ref>Teshale Tibebu (1995). The Making of Modern Ethiopia: 1896-1974. The Red Sea Press. pp. 67–70. ISBN 978-1-56902-001-2.</ref> whereas others such as the historian David Todd assert that this system can be unequivocally labelled as caste-based.^[2]

Source 38. Leads to a Cambridge site with an article that mentions Ham and negroid but no Amhara or any other ethnic group specifically ^[3]

Source 39. Leads to an article which mentions Qemant, Eritreans and Beta Israel but no mention of Amhara ^[4]

The topic in itself no longer applies to current Ethiopia since slavery is abolished in 1942 ^[5]

With so many questionable sources, i can't help but think that someone wants to put a negative light on this page. Mankind throughout history has practiced slavery and serfdom, why does it need to be highlighted on the Amhara page? Why with incorrect sources. It would otherwise only be fair if it's highlighted on every ethnic group and nations wikipedia pages, from medieval Europe to African states, the same way it's highlightend on the Amhara page(with incorrect sources)

I hereby request you to consider the removal of that section.

Thank you and have good day 86.89.46.70 (talk) 03:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The statistics bureau you mentioned doesnt necessarily mean millions were killed but they could of chose to identify with another ethnic group. Oromos were known to pose as Amhara and have now stopped due to the Oromia region being granted. Duqsene (talk) 01:12, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@86.89.46.70: Donald Levine's text is scholarly and well cited, and other sources in that section are WP:RS. The section stays. Please note that WP:COMPETENCE is required, or you should not be editing wikipedia. If you need help with finding sources, please contact WP:TEAHOUSE. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 13:25, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ms Sarah Welch: Have you seen the alleged sources provided above? Many of those sources lead to nothing or doesn't mention Amhara, don't you find that questionable? In what way do you question my WP:COMPETENCE? At least you can do is to check on those sources. I'm going to contact other administrators and users on this issue to look at those sources. Any other users who want to check on the sources feel free to do so.86.89.46.70 (talk) 14:09, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jim1138:: Hello Jim, can i ask your assistance in this? There was a new section added on the Amhara people page, but many of those sources leads to nothing or doesn't mention Amhara, can you look in to this? Thank you 86.89.46.70 (talk) 14:22, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@86.89.46.70: I have checked them. These and Donald Levine do discuss Amhara and social stratification (slavery, castes) on the page numbers cited in the article. Older October 2016 versions of this article, quoted the source, then embedded quotes in the cite from the source for easier verifiability, but later editing by others (@Soupforone e.g.) reworded and removed the quotes. Is your concern with edits of @Soupforone?

You lecture, "i can't help but think that someone wants to put a negative light on this page. Mankind throughout history has practiced slavery and serfdom, why does it need to be highlighted on the Amhara page?" Wikipedia articles are not a public relations portal/blog to put positive or negative light. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and notable encyclopedic information from multiple reliable secondary and tertiary sources about the history, society etc of Amhara people belongs in this article. Please see WP:COMPREHENSIVE. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 14:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The ip indicates that the social stratification material in general is dubious (which you originally added, not me). He/she does not ask to spam more WP:REDFLAG claims but on the contrary asks for its complete removal. Soupforone (talk) 15:41, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]