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Hi.

Yesterday, Dec 5, about five and a half hours before the premiere of this episode, I began the preliminary article for that episode, which I've observed for some time is standard practice among those editors here who edit the South Park episode articles. The basic plot was supported by a press release, and more citations always follow after an episode airs.

Four hours later (just an hour and a half before the episode aired), User:SanAnMan, reverted it back to the redirect to the Season article that it was before I did this, using the rationale that that the episode "has not aired."

This would mean that User:SanAnMan is not only unfamiliar with standard episode article practices among the editing community here, as with WP:CRYSTAL, which states that articles on future events can be created if the event "is notable and almost certain to take place." It also would mean that User:SanAnMan has never come across an article for a future film, novel, album, television episode, etc. If he were a newbie, this would not have caught much of my attention, but User:SanAnMan has been editing here since 2011. Have you never come across articles on future subjects, SanAnMan?

This may suggest that he simply wanted to blank what I wrote out of spite, which is merely tendentious editing. The evidence for this lies in the fact that himself has in the past changed redirects into preliminary episode articles. In this edit, for example, he did this with the article for the episode "White People Renovating Houses", with the edit summary "add preliminary details for the episode based on press release", which is the exact same thing I did. Ditto for the prelim article for "Hummels & Heroin", which he created on the basis of the press release.

For other articles, like the one for "Franchise Prequel", he made edits to the prelim article, a consistent indication that he had no problem with them.

I would like to address SanAnMan directly by asking him why he did this. RationalAndLiterate (talk) 17:28, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@RationalAndLiterate: Simple. I, and other editors on this project, have agreed that one press release is no longer sufficient information for the basis of a full article creation. It's just not enough details. This has been our process now since this season began, so yes, it may have been done differently in the past, but just because that's the way it always was doesn't mean that's the way it always should be. There was no spite in the reversion, just an agreement between myself and the other editors who regularly create/edit these episode articles to not actually create the article itself until it actually airs. I would appreciate it if you assume good faith rather than claiming that I was editing out of spite. Thank you. - SanAnMan (talk) 17:51, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Please show me the talk page where this discussion took place, and/ which other editors agreed to this. RationalAndLiterate (talk) 20:23, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the edit summaries of previous articles done this season. In addition, WP:CRYSTAL which you referenced states "It is appropriate to report discussion and arguments about the prospects for success of future proposals and projects or whether some development will occur, if discussion is properly referenced." One press release does not meet that requirement. Also, MOS:TV states "Articles should be verifiable and establish notability", and one press release does not meet notability requirements as it fails WP:DEPTH. See also WP:DELAY also for further discussion on this. I appreciate your view on this matter, but this is how myself, User:Nightscream, User:SNUGGUMS, and the other regular editors of these articles have been doing the process. Don't be so offended that your edit was reverted. - SanAnMan (talk) 21:01, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]