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See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Heilman&type=revision&diff=747231488&oldid=747223613 this diff]. Then see [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Dengue fever/archive1]]. The page view stats are [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=James_Heilman up]. [[User:QuackGuru|<font color="vermillion">'''QuackGuru'''</font>]] ([[User talk:QuackGuru|<font color="burntorange">talk</font>]]) 17:51, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Heilman&type=revision&diff=747231488&oldid=747223613 this diff]. Then see [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Dengue fever/archive1]]. The page view stats are [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=James_Heilman up]. [[User:QuackGuru|<font color="vermillion">'''QuackGuru'''</font>]] ([[User talk:QuackGuru|<font color="burntorange">talk</font>]]) 17:51, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

== Your deletion of new textl in the 'Panic attacks' article ==

Young man, the text in which Sigmund Freud describes the list of symptoms necessary for the diagnosis of Panic Attacks can be located, sorry, I can't tell right now about exactly where, of course, he didn't use the term: 'Panic attacks', that in Spanish are called: 'Crisis de angustia', as: 'Pánico' is more in the line of: 'Scare', as in front of a catastrophe affecting multitudes. ER is not exactly the best place for having experience in this disease, even when most PA patients feel they have an organic heart disease, and their first consultations are with cardiologists rather than with psychiatrists. As a matter of fact, I was involved in the 80s in the Alprazolam Panic Attacks project of the Upjohn company, so I have an experience and an authority to discuss the subject. Please give some confirmation that you read this note, after you do this, I'll delete it, I don't want disclosing my identity. btw: there's a Wikipedia article about yourself, but the biographical notes I proposed about José Alix-Alix, pioneer of thoracic surgery in Spain, and José Gros-Camisó, partisan, right hand of Santiago Carrillo, who was in charge of the safety of top rank members of the Communist Party of Spain (The name: 'Spanish Communist Party', was the name of: 'Spanish Socialist Worker's Party', P$O€, around 1920), this looks unequal to unfair. Please reconsider it all. Thanks, have a god shift, best regards, + Salut.--[[User:Caula|Caula]] ([[User talk:Caula|talk]]) 11:02, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

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Removal from WMF board

I realize that we probably need to tread carefully around Wikipedia drama, and perhaps potential legal issues for the WMF, but why was he removed from the WMF board? The article says he was removed once, and then again, that it "generated controversy". Why was he dismissed and how did it create controversy? I'm strictly approaching this as a reader. Let's not be weaselly here. --BDD (talk) 16:28, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This question is still causing drama at Jimbo's talk page. Once the drama dies down, perhaps we'll be able to answer it better. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:05, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
NRP is right in that there is little to say here because little has been reported in reliable sources, but I recently added stuff about this subject using an article in the Register as a source, for what that's worth. Everymorning (talk) 22:08, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hinted or something else

The source says the subject "hinted" that his push for Knowledge Engine transparency was a factor in his dismissal. QuackGuru changed the word as it had been put into this Blp to "suggested" and wishes to push that particular word. There does not appear to be a synonym for "hinted" [1] so I think "hinted" should be kept. Nocturnalnow (talk) 19:31, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:Nocturnalnow, the wording "hinted" is too close to the source. I think "suggested" or "indicated" is better. They are synoyms.[2] Do you prefer "suggested" or "indicated"? QuackGuru (talk) 19:33, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"indicated" is good, thanks. Nocturnalnow (talk) 19:36, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I still prefer "suggested". QuackGuru (talk) 19:37, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I still prefer "mused"...that is actually the perfect word..."speculated" would also be good. Nocturnalnow (talk) 19:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Both of the words are inaccurate. QuackGuru (talk) 19:40, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
When you think about it, anything said within the concept of "hinting" probably does not even belong in an encyclopedia; I mean, think about it, QuackGuru, is an encyclopedia the place for curating and reporting what someone, anyone, is hinting? Nocturnalnow (talk) 19:57, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You started a discussion at the BLP noticeboard with the title "Maybe the Heilman info should be in his BLP?" It is because of you it is in here. QuackGuru (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. Maybe that was a mistake by me. What I'm trying to say is that "hinted at" info maybe is not good enough to be anywhere in an encyclopedia. Nocturnalnow (talk) 21:01, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
He did not hint at. He asserted it. Other sources make much stronger claims. The word "asserted" can work too. QuackGuru (talk) 21:05, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Its not notable, that's for sure. This subject's life has a lot more important stuff to it than to include some vague reference to a "factor" in why he was removed from a volunteer position. Its only insiders who think that is important. Nocturnalnow (talk) 04:37, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the sentence because after our discussion, I am sure it is not notable enough to be in his Blp. If you are sure it belongs, you may put it back and I will not revert. Nocturnalnow (talk) 04:45, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Text that is not notable would be to say the Board tried to replace Heilman with Geshuri. What is your argument that it is not notable that Heilman was forced off the Board because he pushed for transparency when at the same time Jimmy Wales and Lila Tretikov pushed to keep the KE project a secret. QuackGuru (talk) 20:38, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
QuackGuru, what is your argument that this insider stuff is notable? Nocturnalnow (talk) 22:13, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It has been repeated in multiple sources, including other languages. QuackGuru (talk) 22:16, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So your opinion is repetition =s notability? Nocturnalnow (talk) 03:10, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, when sources continue to repeat it. QuackGuru (talk) 03:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suggest we leave it out until other editors provide a consensus for including it. You and I can agree to disagree. Nocturnalnow (talk) 15:18, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well, I wasn't going to comment, but... I don't see a problem with including it. For one thing, notability does not apply to article content. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:04, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, ok, I see what you mean; I did not know that. So, go ahead QuackGuru if you wish. Nocturnalnow (talk) 20:42, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For discussion: Include Wales response?

Should Jimbo's response, cited by motherboard in the same article, to this subject's "indication", be included for NPOV purposes? I have no opinion, maybe because I embrace free speech so much that the language does not bother me at all, but what do others think? And would it be too abrasive toward the subject? And if we decide not to use it, then for NPOV purposes, perhaps we should also exclude James's "hint"/indication? Nocturnalnow (talk) 17:56, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is not an official response from the WMF. QuackGuru (talk) 18:42, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I do not get your point. James's "hint" is directed towards the other trustees. Nocturnalnow (talk) 02:08, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There is no official response from the WMF's Board of Trustees. Other sources indicate it was a factor in his dismissal. QuackGuru (talk) 02:40, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Update

Article says "Heilman is a clinical instructor at the department of emergency medicine at the University of British Columbia"

Ref now says "Clinical Assistant Professor"[3]

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:03, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Updated. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:29, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect content

See this diff. Then see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Dengue fever/archive1. The page view stats are up. QuackGuru (talk) 17:51, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your deletion of new textl in the 'Panic attacks' article

Young man, the text in which Sigmund Freud describes the list of symptoms necessary for the diagnosis of Panic Attacks can be located, sorry, I can't tell right now about exactly where, of course, he didn't use the term: 'Panic attacks', that in Spanish are called: 'Crisis de angustia', as: 'Pánico' is more in the line of: 'Scare', as in front of a catastrophe affecting multitudes. ER is not exactly the best place for having experience in this disease, even when most PA patients feel they have an organic heart disease, and their first consultations are with cardiologists rather than with psychiatrists. As a matter of fact, I was involved in the 80s in the Alprazolam Panic Attacks project of the Upjohn company, so I have an experience and an authority to discuss the subject. Please give some confirmation that you read this note, after you do this, I'll delete it, I don't want disclosing my identity. btw: there's a Wikipedia article about yourself, but the biographical notes I proposed about José Alix-Alix, pioneer of thoracic surgery in Spain, and José Gros-Camisó, partisan, right hand of Santiago Carrillo, who was in charge of the safety of top rank members of the Communist Party of Spain (The name: 'Spanish Communist Party', was the name of: 'Spanish Socialist Worker's Party', P$O€, around 1920), this looks unequal to unfair. Please reconsider it all. Thanks, have a god shift, best regards, + Salut.--Caula (talk) 11:02, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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