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Special:WhatLinksHere/Canadian Open Wireless and Mobile Communications Engineering Journal shows that Talk:Canadian Open Wireless and Mobile Communications Engineering Journal links to Canadian Open Wireless and Mobile Communications Engineering Journal.

However, I can't find any such links on either Talk:Canadian Open Wireless and Mobile Communications Engineering Journal, or {{WP Journals}}. What gives?

Does something in the metabanner need to make use of {{linkless exists}}? Possibly Module:Pagetype? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:09, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Headbomb: Thanks for the ping. The talk page uses {{WikiProject Academic Journals}} which uses {{WPBannerMeta}}. That and its subpages do a few #ifexist: checks but only on pages such as WP:WikiProject Academic Journals, and there's no #invoke: for a direct module call. Those subpages do use several other complex templates which may record a spurious wikilink. I agree that {{Pagetype}} is the most likely candidate. Someone could test that theory by pretending to edit the module and previewing the talk page with the pagetype call removed. (I can't do this myself, as the modules are protected.)

As you've noticed, Module:Linkless is currently up for deletion. If done carefully, that could still allow {{linkless exists}} to keep working, but deleting the module-level interface would prevent other modules such as Pagetype from calling it.

However, I don't think that Linkless can help us here. Pagetype is not just checking for existence but reading the page to find out whether it is, for example, a redirect. I don't know any way to do that without recording a wikilink. Even if we found a way, I'm not sure that it would be a good idea: we do want the talk page banner to update if its counterpart in the main namespace changes type. Certes (talk) 23:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, ideally, we'd want the banner to update, but without creating a link record. Because that's pretty annoying. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:07, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, I don't think that's possible. Updating the banner requires the link record. As I understand it, when a page (such as the redirect in main namespace) changes, MediaWiki runs a query similar to "what links here" to work out which other pages depend on it, and updates them. No link means no update. Certes (talk) 00:51, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's not possible. --Izno (talk) 01:03, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At least not until T14019 is dealt with. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:17, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments please, on Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 26#Semi-automate DELSORT based on Project tags. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 14:10, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but it seems that the template is blocking TOCs from being displayed unless __TOC__ forces the page to show it. See for example Talk:Japanese battleship Yamato, which has an apparently suppressed TOC. All of the project templates except for Japan are at Talk:German battleship Bismarck, where there is no problem with the TOC displaying. I looked at the template, but there's nothing I can see that's causing the problem (though I by no means know what I'm doing). Can anybody take a look? Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 13:04, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Parsecboy: It's not, if you look in the Todo section of the banner on that page, you'll find the toc there. It's because Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/ToDo as sections. If these were replaced with just bolded text then the toc would appear after all the banners. -- WOSlinker (talk) 16:27, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that would explain it - the sections were added here, but I've reverted them. Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 16:34, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Like Module:Documentation, this template should automatically sense the protection level of a template and then transclude the proper icon and category - currently, there are almost 20 template-protected wikiproject templates, and likely many more with other protection levels. I don't know how this is implemented, and don't want to try and mess around with something transcluded so heavily. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:18, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly can be worked on by anyone, once a sandbox has been validated feel free to reactivate the edit request. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:44, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It can be added to the Template:WPBannerMeta/templatepage page. -- WOSlinker (talk) 08:38, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this necessary? Which WikiProject banners are protected (to any level) but have no protection icon at top right? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Redrose64: Eg {{WikiProject Fencing}} --DannyS712 (talk) 16:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Easy. Next? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:35, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Redrose64: I had a list, and put it somewhere. I'll ping you if I find it, but anyway thanks for the help. --DannyS712 (talk) 23:36, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Redrose64: {{WikiProject Rowing}}, {{WikiProject Running}}, and {{WikiProject Mixed martial arts}} all have hardcoded move and edit protection templates, as well as categories, that should be moved to documentation subpages. Can you help? --DannyS712 (talk) 23:39, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done, done and done; but if you examine the doc pages that I have created, none of them now have a pp template. It's built in to the core code of {{documentation}}, so there's no need to move any pp templates - just get rid of them. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:38, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]