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https://outreachjudaism.org/gods-suffering-servant-isaiah-53/ [[User:Miistermagico|Miistermagico]] ([[User talk:Miistermagico|talk]]) 16:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
https://outreachjudaism.org/gods-suffering-servant-isaiah-53/ [[User:Miistermagico|Miistermagico]] ([[User talk:Miistermagico|talk]]) 16:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== The reference linked to a blog and used opinionated language ==

You reversed an edit i made to [[The Shroud of Turin]]. If you actually read how it was written before the edit, you can't argue that the language was very biased. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral and factual. And by the way, the text read " all of the hypotheses used to challenge the radiocarbon dating have been scientifically refuted". Now let's analyse the references here. This sentence claims that one side has hard core evidence and the other side of the argument is merely a hypothesis. As a scientist let me affirm that we make a theory, or hypothesis, and then we test it to see if we can prove it with evidence. What I can see on these references are rarely low-level evidence (i.e. opinions) refuting the "challenge the radiocarbon dating" - that cannot accurately be described as "scientifically refuted". In science we have many theories and many of these theories show signs that are promising but this does not always to equate to evidence. Now, in this context, neither side of the argument seems to claim the C-14 testing was in itself inaccurate. That would be farcical. C-14 is widely respected to be generally very accurate. However, regardless of this, the results are justifiably questioned if the sample is not fair. An unfair sample will give unfair results. Like I said in my edit, the reference I removed is a blog post, Which is not permitted as a references according to Wikipedia guidelines. Furthermore the blog post is not a scientific paper but includes an opinion.

In conclusion, the sentence below:
"all of the hypotheses used to challenge the radiocarbon dating have been scientifically refuted"
would be more SCIENTIFICALLY balanced if it were replaced with:
"all of the hypotheses used to challenge the radiocarbon dating have been disputed"

The sentence goes on to then detail how it is disputed (which I did not remove).

I will be reverting to my edit.

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Moses in a Jewish Library

Dear Tgeorgescu, Years ago I was doing some research in a Jewish Library and Moses was in the fiction section. I was not surprised. When I studied Old Testament at the University of Detroit he was barely mentioned at all and that was in the 70s. The following material on Moses from the Jewish Encyclopedia is very interesting. Give it a glance: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11049-moses It is astonishing the Jewish Encyclopedia has NOT BEEN UPDATED since 1906!!! The unedited full-text of the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia. The Catholic Encyclopedia was completed in April, 1914. IT HAS NEVER BEEN UPDATED!! The Jerome Biblical Commentary is a 1968 book of Biblical scholarship and commentary edited by Raymond Edward Brown, Joseph A. Fitzmyer, and Roland E. Murphy. In 1990, The New Jerome Biblical Commentary was published by the same editors as a revised and updated edition. (This volume contains the first works by female Biblical scholars) It is now 2020. Obviously new information about the ancient world has been discovered and critically evaluated by the scientific community that IS NOT contained in these earlier, and many times OUTDATED, works. Happy Magic. Miistermagico (talk) 00:05, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tip on this one.

https://outreachjudaism.org/gods-suffering-servant-isaiah-53/ Miistermagico (talk) 16:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The reference linked to a blog and used opinionated language

You reversed an edit i made to The Shroud of Turin. If you actually read how it was written before the edit, you can't argue that the language was very biased. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral and factual. And by the way, the text read " all of the hypotheses used to challenge the radiocarbon dating have been scientifically refuted". Now let's analyse the references here. This sentence claims that one side has hard core evidence and the other side of the argument is merely a hypothesis. As a scientist let me affirm that we make a theory, or hypothesis, and then we test it to see if we can prove it with evidence. What I can see on these references are rarely low-level evidence (i.e. opinions) refuting the "challenge the radiocarbon dating" - that cannot accurately be described as "scientifically refuted". In science we have many theories and many of these theories show signs that are promising but this does not always to equate to evidence. Now, in this context, neither side of the argument seems to claim the C-14 testing was in itself inaccurate. That would be farcical. C-14 is widely respected to be generally very accurate. However, regardless of this, the results are justifiably questioned if the sample is not fair. An unfair sample will give unfair results. Like I said in my edit, the reference I removed is a blog post, Which is not permitted as a references according to Wikipedia guidelines. Furthermore the blog post is not a scientific paper but includes an opinion.

In conclusion, the sentence below: "all of the hypotheses used to challenge the radiocarbon dating have been scientifically refuted" would be more SCIENTIFICALLY balanced if it were replaced with: "all of the hypotheses used to challenge the radiocarbon dating have been disputed"

The sentence goes on to then detail how it is disputed (which I did not remove).

I will be reverting to my edit.

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