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I think this content would have a larger impact, at least while the event is currrent, on WikiNews.Michael Powerhouse (talk) 20:19, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to make that suggestion there (it is a separate project). Our purpose here is to assemble what will eventually be an encyclopedic article on the incident. General Ization ^Talk 20:21, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Which is pretty much impossible until weeks, possibly months after the incident as recent sources are almost always wrong. Viriditas (talk) 20:25, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nay -- my experience writing about recent items on Wikipedia is that the first source is the best source. When you can sort sources in Google News and find the first one that mentions keywords about the fact you want to know about, that's the one that will do the best in-depth reporting. There are a hundred hangers-on that take that and echo it, dropping and garbling facts here and there as they go along. Even if the first source is a press release, the others are still copying that - you might then pick someone respectable-sounding to launder it, but that's all you're really doing. So there's no point to waiting. Even if something is later disproved, it's best just to update as you go along, preferably retaining mention and citation of the false reports since most people reading will be wondering what happened with them. Wnt (talk) 22:24, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely. Wikinews is a dead project run by one guy who deletes any and all attempts to write about news. The WMF should permanently pull the plug on it and distance themselves as far as possible from it. Viriditas (talk) 20:23, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is wikipedia a breaking news page or an encyclopedia? It can't be both. -- JD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.38.247.133 (talk) 22:53, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

100% agree with the points by User:Wnt And a trout for the person who nominates this for AfD (cause that is going to happen. Legacypac (talk) 23:00, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that WMF should run, not walk, away from Wikinews. I just checked on this, did a search there for "San Bernardino", the first hit https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/California_wildfires_continue_blazing was updated 30 November 2015 and the search result begins with "California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has declared a state of emergency for San Bernardino County". Best not to associate with potential joke fodder. Kid Bugs (talk) 23:29, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello everyone,

can you help me translate this page to the French Wikipedia please? …I am not very comfortable with English!!

Thanks you very much, --89.94.82.139 (talk) 21:52, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@89.94.82.139: You can contact a user who speaks French from this category; Category:User fr-N. Ask at their talk page if they can help you translate. Someone else here may also be able to help you. Thanks.  Seagull123  Φ  21:58, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Seagull123: Okay, thx for your help! I will inform me over there!

Best regards, --89.94.82.139 (talk) 22:05, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Si vous avez des questions spécifiques, je peux vous aider un peu. Conctactez-moi sur mon page de discussion. Falconus^{p t c} 22:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

from people in the area I'm getting "Loma Linda Univ Med Ctr on lock-down (and the other hospital which took some victims). All county buildings on lock-down. All 70 city schools on lock-down." Legacypac (talk) 22:45, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just heard on NBC4, confirming all schools have been evacuated (not lock-down) Velojareal (talk) 00:54, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

apparently one of the suspects may be called Farooq Saeed. Shouldn't this be included? --Stefvh96 (talk) 23:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.inquisitr.com/2605302/farooq-saeed-possible-san-bernardino-shooting-suspect-identified-by-news-outlets-police-manhunt-continues/

Sources stress this is unconfirmed, not worth including at this time. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 23:31, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:QUESTIONABLE. Firebrace (talk) 23:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Park Circle Drive should be changed to Park Center Circle, assuming the street sign at the corner with Waterman Avenue is correct (from photo on Google Maps). Bunkyray5 (talk) 23:41, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(I didn't create this topic; I'm just responding.) I searched #activeshooter on Twitter and it is pretty cluttered with commentary. I can't seem to find any useful first-person accounts other than that of the San Bernardino County Sherrif. Brainhelljr (talk) 01:00, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rumors are being spread that anti-vaccers are responsible, so keep an eye out for people trying to insert such in the infobox without confirmation. Delete any anti-vaccer input — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3707:C140:D8C4:C1C:81CD:6538 (talk) 00:35, 3 December 2015 (UTC) '[reply]

People against getting shot with needles are shooting with bullets? That seems rather extreme! John Alan Elson★ WF6I A.P.O.I. 00:50, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't non-victims (i.e. perpetrators) be included in the death/injury counts? Those counts don't say that they're specifically for victims. I believe it's standard to include anyone who was harmed as a result of the incident, including the people who caused the incident. The death count originally included one perpetrator, but it was later edited out with a comment instructing to exclude that person. —Zenexer [talk] 00:48, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it should be left out for now as it is just speculation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:82:203:3346:4830:8639:E946:7910 (talk) 00:51, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Should read LAPD Counter-Terrorism Unit or Los Angeles Police Department Counter-Terrorism Unit. Unclear as it currently is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.207.162.97 (talk) 01:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed. WWGB (talk) 01:21, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

semi-auto weapon error=

This article states that one of the gunman was armed with a semi-auto weapon, however the source link doesn't state that. I'm going to remove it. If anyone finds a link contains proof that a semi-auto weapon was used your welcome to edit it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graylandertagger (talk • contribs) 01:36, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the law enforcement and the media are changing the number of shooters from three to two and saying that the third person detained was likely not associated with the incident. Cla68 (talk) 01:48, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since the section about suspects keeps going back and forth, I think there should be a section here to discuss whether it should be mentioned that one suspect is thought to be a disgruntled employee--108.85.149.233 (talk) 01:51, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing good that can come out of rushing to give a motive. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and WP:NOTNEWS. As well, there is WP:NODEADLINE. Also, see WP:RSBREAKING. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:53, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]