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It doesn’t matter at all unless the foreign ministry websites and other news sources are mentioned then that’s when it’s valid. Also remember when the Kosovo government claimed that Jamaica 🇯🇲 had recognized Kosovo in February 2018. That Twitter post turned out to be a false alarm. The Jamaican Foreign Ministry said nothing had happened and it’s policy hadn’t changed at all. Right Here:
It doesn’t matter at all unless the foreign ministry websites and other news sources are mentioned then that’s when it’s valid. Also remember when the Kosovo government claimed that Jamaica 🇯🇲 had recognized Kosovo in February 2018. That Twitter post turned out to be a false alarm. The Jamaican Foreign Ministry said nothing had happened and it’s policy hadn’t changed at all. Right Here:
<ref>[https://twitter.com/HashimThaciRKS/status/1230548150756073472 Statement by Hashim Thaçi], Twitter, 20 February 2020</ref><ref>[https://twitter.com/kaminajsmith/status/1230679921258790912 Statement by Kamina Johnson-Smith], Twitter, 20 February 2020</ref><ref>[https://prishtinainsight.com/recognition-mishap-jamaica-denies-affirming-kosovo-statehood/ Recognition mishap: Jamaica denies affirming Kosovo statehood], Prishtina Insight, 21 February 2020</ref>
<ref>[https://twitter.com/HashimThaciRKS/status/1230548150756073472 Statement by Hashim Thaçi], Twitter, 20 February 2020</ref><ref>[https://twitter.com/kaminajsmith/status/1230679921258790912 Statement by Kamina Johnson-Smith], Twitter, 20 February 2020</ref><ref>[https://prishtinainsight.com/recognition-mishap-jamaica-denies-affirming-kosovo-statehood/ Recognition mishap: Jamaica denies affirming Kosovo statehood], Prishtina Insight, 21 February 2020</ref>
* The other sources are nothing better, just Serbian government and related media outlets. So we have to use such sources as the only ones available. [[User:Ktrimi991|Ktrimi991]] ([[User talk:Ktrimi991|talk]]) 08:36, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

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Oman

The Ministry of Republic of Kosovo and Sultanate of Oman have diplomatic relations and held numours talks together.

Oman does recognize the Independence of Kosovo since 4th February 2011

Please change this on your map and correct it!

Here is the source for verification:

https://twitter.com/FMofOman/status/1331127981733974019 - Oman foreign ministry thanks Kosovo MFA

https://twitter.com/MFAKOSOVO/status/1310661936330178560 - Holding talks with Oman Foreign minister

The two countries MFA´s Twitter-profiles are verified by Twitter and should be taken as serious and valid sources.


There are no valid sources which shows that Oman has derecognized Kosovo or note of derecognition by Serbia!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IllyricumShqip (talk • contribs) 17:38, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To quote source 176 " Oman has been a source of constant confusion. A message sent to the Kosovo foreign ministry by the Omani government in February 2011 read as follows: ‘In acknowledging the decision of the International Court of Justice on the independence of Kosovo, the Government of the Sultanate of Oman will welcome Kosovo's membership to the United Nations, as well as to other international and regional organizations it wishes to join.’ Pristina later accepted that it had misread this as recognition, when it had in fact been a more general statement of future support. ‘Serbia Claims Countries Cancelling Kosovo Recognition’, Balkan Insight, 9 September 2011. However, just a few days later, Kosovo announced that Oman had in fact confirmed that it had recognized Kosovo. But even this statement has been cast into doubt. In February 2012, Rexhep Boja, the chargé d’affaires at the Kosovo embassy in Saudi Arabia, stated the following: ‘Five GCC states, including Saudi Arabia, have recognized our independence,’ adding that Kosovo is still waiting for Oman to recognize it. ‘Kosovo Seeks Full GCC Support’, Arab News, 20 February 2012." FBKong (talk) 22:35, 23 March 2021 (UTC) [1][reply]

IllyricumShqip (talk) 13:57, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello everyone,

On the Foreign ministry site of the Sultanate of Oman a meeting is shown between President of Kosovo & Foreign minister of Oman calling Kosovo an repbulic in the article of the FMA-site so therefore clearly indicates that Oman does recognize Kosovo and had numerous talks with officials and now the President of Kosovo. We should mark Oman to the list of countries who do recognize the Republic of Kosovo.IllyricumShqip (talk) 13:57, 21 November 2021 (UTC) Source: https://fm.gov.om/foreign-minister-holds-meeting-with-president-of-kosovo/[reply]

While this does show "closer ties" between Kosovo and Oman, it doesn't directly state whether or not they are or have recognised it. FBKong (talk) 22:21, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Map

Some Islands of UK, France and Netherlands which are also known as "overseas territories" are not coloured in green. These islands should be coloured in green since under UN they are under UK, France and Netherlands. 2A02:587:E23B:7D00:3575:883F:500E:884B (talk) 18:30, 21 July 2021 (UTC) Note: The links appearing here are not mine 2A02:587:E23B:7D00:3575:883F:500E:884B (talk) 18:31, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Which exactly? Vanjagenije (talk) 21:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing here is realiable anymore serbian lies all over propaganda at it's best and WP falling for it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.238.92.143 (talk) 19:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan causes recognition of Kosovo to fall within minority of UN member states

The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan has ceased to exist and the reformed Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has never recognized Kosovo: the previous "recognition" has been nullified and therefore most UN member states do NOT recognize Kosovo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.117.38 (talk) 07:53, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Islamic Republic of Afghanist has ceased to exist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Republic_of_Afghanistan). Therefore it cannot be factored into the UN states that currently recognize Kosovo. Therefore, only 96/192 UN states recognize Kosovo instead of the previous 97/193, meaning it has lost majority recognition from UN members.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.117.38 (talk) 02:58, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nope WP:ORIGINAL. Durraz0 (talk) 18:45, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think that with the current Afghanistan Government overthrown for good. Anything is possible now. Just saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192 Street House (talk • contribs) 19:17, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Islamic emirate of Afghanistan is not a UN member state. Durraz0 (talk) 07:55, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I know but we will see what happens but in the meantime the old government of Afghanistan that was the very first country to recognize Kosovo has now been overthrown for good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192 Street House (talk • contribs) 10:34, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It won't affect the recognition since the Taliban won't be recognised as the successor as it happened in the 90s when only 3 governments recognised them. 2A02:587:E23B:2400:45B4:C80D:136C:A068 (talk) 14:28, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So what the former Afghanistan government of Ashraf Ghani already collapsed completely forever. I mean that’s the fact. The European Union already announced that the Taliban has already won the war decisively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192 Street House (talk • contribs) 19:29, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The de facto controller does not matter. What does matter is that the internationally recognised Afghan government, the Islamic Republic still recognises Kosovo, and is still the holder of the UN seat, therefore until the Emirate assumes de jure control of the region, it will not be counted. FBKong (talk) 12:45, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

^^Streethouse is completely correct. The page is currently in a state of total denial of reality.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.117.38 (talk) 03:00, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

islamic emirate of afghanistan is not recognized by the UN as the legitimate government of Afghanistan. Durraz0 (talk) 11:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
^Irrelevant. The "Afghan" state that recognized the Republic of Kosovo has ceased to exist and therefore it cannot be factored into states that currently recognize it. The Republic of Kosovo has lost UN majority recognition. No amount of ignorance or bias can change this fact.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.117.38 (talk) 14:09, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct but the Islamic Emirate is now the real deal because they control more than 90% of Afghanistan. So yeah it doesn’t matter which state “recognizes” it. It’s already the de facto government of Afghanistan already.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 192 Street House (talk • contribs) 10:12, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
New editors, please be aware that it is considered proper etiquette on talk pages to sign your comments by putting four tildes (~~~~) at the end.
Additionally, it is polite to indent a new comment with an appropriate number of initial colons (not blank spaces) at the start of your comment.
And finally, Wikipedia talk pages are not a forum for discussing / arguing the subject. Comments of the form "so what, I know, but the Reliable Sources rule is not important here because the facts are obvious" are not a proper use of a talk page. Wait until a reliable secondary source explicitly acknowledges that the change in Afghanistan means Kosovo is no longer recognized by a majority of UN member states; any premature change to the article before that time is original research, and any persistence in advocating ignoring the rules on this point is disruptive. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 20:03, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is classic WP:OR. Furthermore, no country has recognized the Taliban, and a remnant of the original government still claims legitimacy and continues to govern the Panjshir province.--Calthinus (talk) 14:12, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

True but that Afghanistan government remnant is just a shadow of its former self. Get used to it. The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan is now finished.

Please take your soapboxing somewhere else. Ominae (talk) 05:53, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of Chinese Taipei in the map of states that recognize Kosovo

I don't think it makes sense to have Taiwan highlighted on this map when it itself is only recognized by a small handful of countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.52.125.81 (talk) 08:40, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan is a fully independent state, your Chinese shilling doesn't change that. Somalialand is recognised by no country, but it is outlined on the map. TBH the map needs some sort of fix-up, but the Taiwanese borders should remain the same.FBKong (talk) 07:45, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tonga 2

Tonga has recognised the independence of Kosovo yet it is not included in the list and it was taken off a couple months ago for no reason? 90.254.58.183 (talk) 11:32, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Have you got any sources showing their recognition? Matangi Tonga states no formal recognition, while the dubious Kosovothanksyou states only a verbal recognition was given.
https://matangitonga.to/2014/01/21/tongas-recognition-kosovo-not-confirmed
https://www.kosovothanksyou.com/?p=794
FBKong (talk) 15:40, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please include Tonga again as you can clearly see the recognissing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.238.72.253 (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly see where? More information than that is needed for proof of recognition. FBKong (talk) 12:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We already have that proof you serbian or russian troll are trying to destroy evidence — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.234.155.64 (talk) 17:19, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you link some of that proof? You can clearly see on my profile that i'm not Serb or Russian. Also, how exactly could anyone destroy evidence? This is literally the internet. FBKong (talk) 04:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen an Tweet of an representative of Tonga visiting Kosovo but dont know if that counts as recognition by Tonga here is the tweet:

https://twitter.com/joeborghese/status/1554811669225906176 — Preceding unsigned comment added by IllyricumShqip (talk • contribs) 01:44, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh that's interesting. S.G ReDark (talk) 03:59, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2022

There is a listed country with wrong name after an agreement for their legitimate name. There is no longer country with the name of just Macedonia, correct name is North Macedonia. Please correct it. PVeditor (talk) 18:04, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:09, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Which map to use

I noticed other languages use File:Kosovo relations.svg and English Wikipedia currently uses File:CountriesRecognizingKosovo.svg. Compare:

Image 1 is more nuanced and informative. It includes countries that have declared to not recognize Kosovo independence. Image 2 has too many countries in gray, as if nothing is known about their stance, but many of them are a clear negative of no recognition. I feel the "Kosovo relations" image should be used as the main image of the article.

Mateussf (talk) 02:55, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's a difference between nations that have declared their belief that Kosovo is not independent, and nations that simply haven't bothered to issue an opinion on the matter one way or the other, and I agree that the distinction is an informative one better reflected by Image 1, for whatever my opinion on the matter is worth. 2601:283:4301:3D10:B582:936E:B7E7:837E (talk) 23:38, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Both of the images definitely have an impact on viewers no matter which way you look at it. Image #1 give you an idea of where each country is when it comes if they are possibly going to recognize the independence or not while image #2 is pretty straight forward as of right now what is happening. Боки Talk page ↔️ Contributions 07:13, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Image 1 certainly is more informative, not sure about the colour palette, though. Also should probably have a "withdrawn recognition" category. FBKong (talk) 06:05, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image 1 is better and more informative. S.G ReDark (talk) 19:39, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree with the Image 1 it gives much more detail and information to the viewer than the old map which in my opinion does have also too much gray. Also keep in mind that some country made new statements regarding Kosovo and needs to be taken in account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IllyricumShqip (talk • contribs) 16:32, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you everyone who shared their opinions. No one was against image 1 and many supported it, so I've changed the image used in the article. The color pallet can be changed if someone wants to do it, and the image is being updated on Commons (although I'm not watching this closely). Thank you S.G ReDark for reminding me of this discussion. Mateussf (talk) 02:36, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad i could help :) S.G ReDark (talk) 13:36, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan

Taiwan is not a formally recognised State, therefeore the map is wrong, because it says "States". 81.44.168.181 (talk) 08:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A "state" doesn't require international recognition to be a state. FBKong (talk) 20:45, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Palau Reconfirmation

During UN General Assembly President of Kosovo - Vjosa Osmani met foreign minister of Palau Gustav Aitaro where they reconfirmed bilateral relations & multilateral cooperation. I think we should therefore take Palau into the list of countries that DO recognize the Republic of Kosovo and dont hold on unconfirmed reports by Serbia.

Source: https://twitter.com/VjosaOsmaniPRKS/status/1573063731466375171 IllyricumShqip (talk) 22:57, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter accounts are not accurate information at all.

Suriname reconfirmation

https://twitter.com/MFAKOSOVO/status/1535326782408126464 37.26.85.252 (talk) 10:51, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter accounts are not that accurate at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RussGreekMexican (talk • contribs) 18:20, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Official twitter accounts of government bodies can be used as sources. Their posts are just short official announcements. A comparative example involves official accounts of the Ukrainian government which are regularly used as sources in relevant articles.--Maleschreiber (talk) 00:31, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also don't forget Tonga https://twitter.com/joeborghese/status/1554811669225906176 S.G ReDark (talk) 01:00, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn’t matter at all unless the foreign ministry websites and other news sources are mentioned then that’s when it’s valid. Also remember when the Kosovo government claimed that Jamaica 🇯🇲 had recognized Kosovo in February 2018. That Twitter post turned out to be a false alarm. The Jamaican Foreign Ministry said nothing had happened and it’s policy hadn’t changed at all. Right Here: [2][3][4]

  • The other sources are nothing better, just Serbian government and related media outlets. So we have to use such sources as the only ones available. Ktrimi991 (talk) 08:36, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Ker-Lindsay, James (2012-10-25). id=4PwmeRG9QsUC&pg=PA124&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false The Foreign Policy of Counter Secession: Preventing the Recognition of Contested States. OUP Oxford. ISBN 978-0-19-969839-4. {{cite book}}: Check |url= value (help); Missing pipe in: |url= (help)
  2. ^ Statement by Hashim Thaçi, Twitter, 20 February 2020
  3. ^ Statement by Kamina Johnson-Smith, Twitter, 20 February 2020
  4. ^ Recognition mishap: Jamaica denies affirming Kosovo statehood, Prishtina Insight, 21 February 2020

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