Marijuana dispensaries in Colorado[edit]

Working copy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Marijuana_dispensaries_in_Colorado

@Anna Frodesiak and Moxy: What are your thoughts on improving this article? --Potguru (talk) 01:17, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

The official name on Wikipedia is Cannabis[edit]

Cannabis (drug) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "Marijuana" redirects here. For other uses, see Marijuana (disambiguation). Lipsquid (talk) 04:07, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Marijuana is a portion of the cannabis plant. Marijuana is not cannabis. Cannabis is not marijuana. Discussion continued on talk page where it belongs. --Potguru (talk) 04:40, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

No guess work[edit]

Before making changes or adding content pls read the laws your referring to Full Text of the Marihuana Tax Act as passed in 1937--Moxy (talk) 16:25, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

@Moxy: The document refers to cannabis only two times and in both passages (below) it is clear that marihuana is only a portion of the plant... not the entire plant. I do not understand why you believe marijuana to be = to cannabis. What about the hemp portion of the cannabis plant, what is it?

• (b) The term "marihuana" means all parts of the plant Cannabis sativa L., whether growing or not; the seeds thereof; the resin extracted from any part of such plant; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of such plant, its seeds, or resins; but shall not include the mature stalks of such plant, fiber produced from such stalks, oil or cake made from the seeds of such plant, any other compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of such mature stalks (except the resin extracted therefrom), fiber, oil, or cake, or the sterilized seed of such plant which is incapable of germination. (this passage is found twice on the page).

• (S) To a transfer of any seeds of the plant Cannabis sativa L. to any person registered under section 2. (this passage is found once on the page).

--Potguru (talk) 17:27, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

• The Medical Geography of Cannabinoid Botanicals in Washington State: Access, Delivery, and Distress. University of Washington. 2008. p. 16. ISBN 978-1-109-00223-2. 
• Rawson, Jean M. (April 2011). Hemp as an Agricultural Commodity. DIANE Publishing. pp. 6–. ISBN 978-1-4379-3839-5. 

reading first one now. The author makes a distinction between drug-producing cannabis and non-drug-producing cannabis... which is what I am doing. Appreciate your help. (a few minutes later) In the second the source states as recently as 2005 (former) Senator Ron Paul introduced a bill that would modify the Controlled Substances Act to include language that explicitly states marijuana: is not equal to hemp. I recognize in the first that the particular author believes marijuana is a pejorative term... but nevertheless it IS the term used in modern language to describe the "drug containing portion" of cannabis. Your sources conclude the same thing. Do they not? --Potguru (talk) 03:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC) (the following is an unsigned contribution by Moxy)

both are implying the term marijuana is not sufficient ..one source determine cannabis is best to use... because the ACT contradicts itself... the other wants to introduce a new term Hemp... again because marijuana isn't defined properly. (Moxy forgot to sign, he meant to though).

>both are implying the term marijuana is not sufficient

that is not fair, we cannot presume to know what an author is implying

>one source determine cannabis is best to use

Please cut and paste the text you are referring to

>because the ACT contradicts itself

Please show me where the ACT contradicts itself, I do not see that

>the other wants to introduce a new term Hemp

Hemp is a term that is well defined. It is defined in the US and most of the world as the portion of the cannabis plant which includes less than 0.03% THC. It is one of mans oldest cultivated plants with some reports suggesting it was farmed more than 12,000 years ago. I don't think either of these papers define hemp, but I may be mistaken so please show me. --Potguru (talk) 04:17, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Please do a Google search for the word hemp.... note most definitions consider it to be a type of plant.... not just a portion. This is how the majority of the world sees it as well. --Moxy (talk) 04:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

If what you say is true then there should be no article on hemp because it should simply redirect to cannabis (drug). Why is it that it does not? --Potguru (talk) 12:57, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Hemp is often used to refer only to Cannabis strains cultivated for industrial (non-drug) use in the English world....not so much so in non English Europe because of the term "Indian Hemp" - a drug reference. In the English world marijuana/pot/gunga/weed/grass plants contain high levels of THC, hemp plants contains very little of the psychoactive chemical having more cannabinoids. This single difference is what most rely on to distinguish hemp from the drug form. Here in Canada the maximum THC content of hemp is set at 0.3%..... higher THC levels is considered a drug. But this changes from country to country. This is why we use the term Cannabis as the parent term here....the term all can agree on is the same thing....as in covers all the variations.^[1] To quote The Hash Marihuana & Hemp Museum "From huge fibre-producing industrial hemp plants to the most potent of medicinal strains, the entire spectrum may be accurately referred to as cannabis, or even hemp (though this is a more archaic usage), as all types are of the same species (just as Great Danes and Chihuahuas may both be called dogs). Cannabis Sativa L. is the binomial name or the species name for the cannabis" --Moxy (talk) 02:18, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

You are making my point exactly. You state clearly that "This single difference is what most rely on to distinguish hemp from the drug form." So you recognize that hemp plus "the drug form" = cannabis. And, of course, "the drug form" = marijuana. So I will continue to use the correct term "marijuana" to describe marijuana and I will continue to use the term "hemp" to describe non-marijuana cannabis. And when I am talking about the plant, instead of the parts of the plant, I will call it cannabis. Not sure where we disagree, now that we both agree that marijuana+hemp=cannabis and even your prime minister used the term marijuana over cannabis.^[2] Thanks for stopping by! --Potguru (talk) 02:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Ok so you understand hemp is not a part of the plant and marijuana has many different definitions depending on context. Perhaps best you bring up any term changes in articles on there talk pages first just to make sure.-- Moxy (talk) 02:39, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

No I do not accept your belief that hemp is not a part of the plant, that is a strange statement. I've made it abundantly clear that my position (based on cited references) is that marijuana + hemp = cannabis. Unless someone presents actual evidence to the contrary I will continue to share references and as I read through articles I am compelled to correct them, and so I shall continue to do so. Thanks for stopping by! --Potguru (talk) 02:43, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

• hemp definition--Moxy (talk) 03:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Source for change[edit]

Do you have a source for this edit ..if true would be very odd but interesting to see them not use the international term. Are you assuming the term will change because of press releases like this where they use marijuana? We cant do this as no source I can find says the legal term will change. -- Moxy (talk) 03:37, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

My bad I see what your saying. re-adding edit -- Moxy (talk) 03:43, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Cool, I'm excited we are seeing eye to eye.

Check this one out... https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=marijuana%2C+hemp%2C+cannabis&case_insensitive=on&year_start=1800&year_end=2008 --Potguru (talk) 04:19, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Marijuana (cannabis)[edit]

Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cannabis#Draft:Marijuana (cannabis) --Moxy (talk) 04:23, 10 May 2016 (UTC)