- Hank Green (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)
The Hank Green article has a long history of notability issues, vandalism, etc. The last Afd was in December 2008 Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hank_green. The issue at point there was wrong capitalization to avoid protection, so notability wasn't talked about that much. But I did get some positive response there even though the article wasn't quite ready yet. (The last full blown Afd is over a year old. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hank_Green_(2nd_nomination)) Since those reviews, the most important new source is the ranking on a Billboard chart of Mr. Green's first studio album. As per WP:MUSICBIO#2, this provides some notability. In my opinion enough to, together with the rest of the sources, establish Mr. Green's notability.
- A draft of the proposed article can be found here. (Sources are listed in the reflist, numbers 14,15,16,18,25 and 27 are the most important sources.)
I would like to call for a new deletion discussion; i.e. relisting at WP:AfD.
Any input is much appreciated. JoinTheMadVender (talk) 11:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd cut the unreferenced material (e.g. the whole "personal life" section) if I were you.
Hank Green's not exactly the most notable person in the world, and a lot of those references are passing mentions, but personally I think there's just about enough sourcing for an article.—S Marshall Talk/Cont 14:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll see if I can find a source that's a bit to the point for the personal section, or otherwise cut it. Thanks! JoinTheMadVender (talk) 14:20, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I could link to the guy's Myspace, that would be a reliable self-published source, right? (Which is, if I'm not mistaken, allowed for information about the writer, as per WP:RELIABLE) JoinTheMadVender (talk) 14:55, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I added two new sources: one of their video blogs to cover his birthplace and moving to Florida, the other Hank's MySpace to source his education. I'm not sure how reliable these sources are in Wikipedia terms, but I suppose they'll suffice, as I noted above.JoinTheMadVender (talk) 16:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Added one last footnote to "personal life" to cite the final sentence. Madithekilljoy (talk) 17:25, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The AFD discussions are, in chronological order:
- Also note that the abovelinked sandbox is duplicated at another single-purpose account's sandbox, User:Madithekilljoy/Sandbox. And before you ask your usual question, Stifle, the answer is here. Uncle G (talk) 14:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It is customary to prepare a userspace draft in cases such as this before bringing a case like this to DRV. I strongly suggest that you do this as we can actually see what we will be looking at. Please also declare if you have any connection to Hank Green. Spartaz Humbug! 09:42, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I already linked to a draft above (I put it in a subpage of my userspace), I've made the line bold so you can't miss it now. As to my connection to Hank Green, he is an online acquaintance. My interest is to write a correct, well sourced, informative article about Hank, because I think he's notable enough to have one. Also, given the history of this article, I felt that someone should do it properly, otherwise the vandalism would just return. I feel that that doesn't conflict with Wikipedia's aim. It's absolutely no secret that this article is the only thing I've worked on, here on wikipedia (except for trivial edits). But I try very hard to not let my involvement cloud my judgment, so please don't imply it does, unless my behaviour gives you reason to suspect otherwise. JoinTheMadVender (talk) 11:25, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Allow creation It looks reasonably sourced and would seem to meet WP:N and WP:BLP, though not by a wide margin. The NPR interview pushed it over the line for me. Hobit (talk) 18:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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