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The result was keep. Modussiccandi (talk) 09:31, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Joel[edit]

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. Never been sourced. On the cat:nn list since 2010. scope_creep^Talk 17:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Georgia (U.S. state). Shellwood (talk) 17:21, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom, absent a remarkable discovery of sources. BD2412 T 06:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I was able to find some coverage of him in The Gay & Lesbian Review Worldwide 1 and The Advocate 2 for his leading roles in A Very Natural Thing and Up!. There were also lots of mentions of him being involved in various theatre productions. I feel he might be a borderline case in both NACTOR and the GNG. GoldenAgeFan1 (talk) 17:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep and I'll try to make that stronger. I have added 3 references and tidied up the article. Also, I'm finding more sources using Robert McLane or Robert Joel McLane than I am with just Robert Joel. Lamona (talk) 23:53, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If this is kept then I think it should be given the title "Robert Joel McLane" because as far as I can see he only used "Robert Joel" in one film. Lamona (talk) 20:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Some coverage a play he did as playwright got in the LA Times and San Bernardino County Sun. 3, 4. Several of his other plays were reviewed in the LA Times or LA Weekly and as the San Bernardino County Sun article noted, he was involved in early projects in the LA area for AIDS, now called APLA Health and was mentioned in LA Times and Associated Press articles from the mid 80s. I think with this added to the other sources linked above gets him over the GNG in non-trival coverage. GoldenAgeFan1 (talk) 16:20, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I added those and their info into the article. I also found a brief quote from a Robert McLane in an article about AIDS and the movie industry in which he is said to be a "counselor with the AIDS project". I'm now thinking that is him, given that the LA Times article also lists him in this role. I will add that link back into the article (I had put it in but then had doubts.) Lamona (talk) 21:17, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:48, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per above and I reviewed all the sources. Spkabil (talk) 15:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Per WP:GNG and the sources identified above. The intro talks about the lack of references, however, per WP:NEXIST: Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. The bold is in the source, so we will not disregard. gidonb (talk) 21:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: per the above sources, subject passes WP:GNG Megan B.... ^{It’s all coming to me} till the end of time 13:07, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above the topic satisfy WP:GNG. JoyStick101 (talk) 06:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.