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The result was speedy delete‎. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs)

Monopoly Massacre[edit]

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Hello. I see not even a single reliable source here. Most are tabloids and one is even a forum post. I tried to find information about this so-called event from reliable and non-Albanian sources, but to no avail. I also suspect copyright violation here. For example, some segments of the article are 90 percent similar with the Memorie.al source. I believe that most of the article's content was copied and pasted from sources, and machine translated, as it was suspected by another editor. StephenMacky1 (talk) 09:30, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Albania, and North Macedonia. StephenMacky1 (talk) 09:30, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well if you don't really believe the sources and find them unreliable how about you go check out a documentary made by am Albanian historian named Marin Mema he's gonna help you,and my great grandfather witnessed this massacre he even was mobilized by the Partisans and sent in the first front of Syrmian front he even survived and when he returned in 1945 he realized what was happening and how they used to gather Albanian civilians to the tobacco factory in Tetovo called the monopoly of Tetovo so it's a real and important event go watch that documentary they even interview an old man who's uncle got taken and sent to the tobacco factory,and the reason why this massacre isn't know its because the partisans did their best to hide this massacre and make the Albanian people forget about this which they did. AcEagle12 (talk) 09:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you provide a link to the documentary please? In initial searches I found [1] which I cannot read. Does this refer to the massacre? English language searches are scant and confused by the fact that "Monopoly" is an unrelated English word. Might this be known by another name in English? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

here is the documentary https://youtube.com/-Li6ZrSLfzQ?si=_aX2f3uJoQf7oHGo,it's in Albanian and that's where I heard about this massacre and I asked one elderly woman and she explained most of it then I decided to do some research and I found 8 sources and decided to create this article so more people can read about this in English,since 7 of the sources are in Albanian and one of them is in English. AcEagle12 (talk) 10:28, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That link shows unavailable when I click it. Who made the documentary? Also does this massacre have a page on Albanian Wikipedia? I couldn't find one, but I don't speak the language so not sure if I am searching properly. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia doesn't allow me to send a link from YouTube but search in youtube "projekti qe Kerkoi zhdukjen e shqiptarve nga trojet shqiptare" and it should appear the channel is called top channel Albania AcEagle12 (talk) 16:15, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete. Straightforward copyvio of this article, as nominator points out.— Moriwen (talk) 14:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Ah yes. That's unfortunate. 90.6% similarity according to Earwig Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:32, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete - I have tagged the article for speedy deletion. Whether or not there is a notable subject here is unclear but it is a clear copyvio and needs to be removed and revdelled. Additionally my searches to date have not shown this is notable. I had not finished looking, but I think that anyone wanting to write about this should probably find a related page and add something about it there to begin with. I probably would have been looking at the possibility of merge or redirect if there were no copyvio. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:38, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm deleting the speedy deletion cause it isn't needed the discussion isn't closed,and this article is very necessary to be,cause 300 people died,right here your acting like Vidoe Smilevski Bato who wanted this massacre to be forgotten. AcEagle12 (talk) 16:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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