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The result was delete. ✗plicit 13:23, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

History of rugby union matches between Ireland and Japan[edit]

History of rugby union matches between Ireland and Japan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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PROD by User:Rugbyfan22 which I completely agree with Fails WP:NOTSTATS and WP:NRIVALRY. There is consensus for deletion on lists like this where no rivalry is present. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of rugby union matches between Ireland and Georgia as an example. I had to contest it as it was previously deleted via PROD in 2020 so an admin would have had to decline the PROD eventually anyway. I would also add that the topic essentially fails WP:GNG as well by virtue of the fact that there is a lack of discussion of a rivalry between these two teams. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:14, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Rugby union, Lists, Japan, and Ireland. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:14, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Apologies, couldn't find whether or not it was PRODed previously in 2020. But yep, fails WP:NOTSTATS and WP:NRIVALRY in my opinion as there is no significant coverage of the rivalry between the two sides, leading to this page being just a collection of stats and therefore failing WP:NOTSTATS. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:20, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as recreation of an article deleted by PROD. It is unclear how similar the new text is to the old, but exactly the same concerns apply. The original rationale was:

  Fails WP:NRIVALRY and WP:GNG. No real reliable sources that discuss the rivalry in any depth. Just a list of stats and information which means it violates WP:NOTSTATS.

  –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:24, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Delete per nom but see other similar lists that may also not qualify for articles, mostly not Ireland related but created by the same editor late last year and more recently:
  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of rugby union matches between Ireland and Canada
  • History of rugby union matches between Ireland and United States
  • History of rugby union matches between Australia and Fiji
  • History of rugby union matches between Argentina and New Zealand
  • History of rugby union matches between France and New Zealand
  • History of rugby union matches between Italy and New Zealand --ww2censor (talk) 16:01, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment -I agree with the above in general, but not re History of rugby union matches between France and New Zealand - article has a lot of prose, is well-referenced and has passed a GA review - it's actually what this sort of article should look like.--Bcp67 (talk) 07:32, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Bcp67: I certainly agree on that one so have struck it. Indeed that is quite nicely done and one should aspire to such an article if there are sufficient source. Thanks for pointing that out. ww2censor (talk) 14:49, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: I am so pleased someone has put their foot down about these pages and pages of empty squares. WP:NOTSTATS. --Whiteguru (talk) 01:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - The guideline on sports rivalries states that sports rivalries are not inherently notable, and so should satisfy general notability. This doesn't explain why the rivalry is notable because there doesn't seem to be a rivalry any more than any two teams are rivals (but we knew that). So what is left is indiscriminate information. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Nothing more than a list of matches, fails WP:NOTSTATS.--Bcp67 (talk) 07:32, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. WP:NOTSTATS. Ajf773 (talk) 09:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:NRIVALRY. Shankargb (talk) 16:43, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as I do not see what makes this pairing notable.Fulmard (talk) 06:15, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nomination. Can we also look at merging History of rugby union matches between England and Scotland & Calcutta Cup? I have no idea why they are separate articles. There are a few like that as rugby likes Cups for head to head matches.Skeene88 (talk) 10:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Skeene88 that seems like a reasonable enough suggestion, so just go for it. ww2censor (talk) 11:18, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.