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The result was delete. Not enough comments on salting so deferring to WP:RFPP Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Article was nominated under Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL having never played in a fully professional league. Player competes in the Football West State League Division 2 in Australia which is not fully professional. Prod was removed without reason. Kosack (talk) 06:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:

David Paone (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

John Monterosso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Steven Shore (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

James Shamim (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Kosack (talk) 06:53, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Kosack (talk) 06:53, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all - Fail NFOOTY as have not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subjects have garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 10:21, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 11:36, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 11:37, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all Fail GNG let alone NFOOTY. Note that these microstubs provide no further information than already covered by Swan United FC#Current Squad. Aoziwe (talk) 13:19, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all - fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 18:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all - None of them have received significant coverage or have played in a fully professional league, meaning they fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:59, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - these articles fail WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG, with no significant coverage or citations to meet the notability requirements. Inter&anthro (talk) 21:27, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Players have played in the FFA Cup Which is deemed as a professional soccer competition by the Football Federation Australia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.130.147.192 (talk) 10:37, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Appearances in cup competitions must be between two fully professional sides to meet WP:NFOOTBALL. Swan United FC is not a fully professional club. Kosack (talk) 12:04, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: FIFA deems all matches played in a professional cup competition governed by a member federation (in this instance, Football Federation Australia and the FFA cup) as professional and competitive. Any sanctions given to clubs or players involved in the FFA cup can be escalated to FIFA for appeal. The State League and the FFA Cup is regulated to comply with national and international betting laws, with Bookmakers offering odds on matches.

We're not concerned with what FIFA or FFA deem to be professional, we are concerned with competitions (and by definition the teams competing within them) that are confirmed as fully professional per WP:FPL. This means that players who have not made senior international appearances have to have played for a club in one of these competitions or played in a national cup competition in a game between clubs from fully professional leagues. As these players have only played for clubs outside of Australia's fully professional structure, they cannot be considered notable per NFOOTY and there is nothing to indicate sufficient significant coverage can be found on any player to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 13:03, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:We're not concerned either. These players as defined under FIFA regulations have played in a "professional" and "competitive" game of "association football". You keep pointing the WP guidelines, however they then reference FIFA guidelines. Moving forward, our organisation will keep deleting any nominations for deletion, this is the revolution. We will not bow to your hypocrisy and draconian methodology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.130.147.192 (talk) 13:33, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You'll do nothing of the sort, all these articles have now been protected against editing by non-confirmed users until this discussion is completed. Fenix down (talk) 13:43, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The articles will be re-created and you Fenix the dictator will be receiving a permanent ban. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.130.147.192 (talk) 13:46, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all and salt all per vandalism threats posted above. --Guy Macon (talk) 07:50, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: On 22:58, 9 May 2017 Bbb23 blocked 139.130.147.192 with an expiration time of 1 week (CheckUser block). --Guy Macon (talk) 07:57, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all - Agree with above reasoning. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 00:18, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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