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The result was Delete all. A Train^talk 07:09, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dheeraj Singh Moirangthem[edit]

Dheeraj Singh Moirangthem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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I am sorry for doing this but these articles don't pass WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY, and although the fact that India hosting the u-17 world cup is a great thing it does not make the individual players notable unless they pass the notability guidelines. Did not find the rational of why the PROD was removed convincing at all. Inter&anthro (talk) 04:53, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages:

Amarjit Singh Kiyam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Rahul Kannoly Praveen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. —Inter&anthro (talk) 04:59, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. —Inter&anthro (talk) 04:59, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Well-sourced article from reliable sources;especially Rahul Kannoly Praveen and Dheeraj Singh Moirangthem, a simple google search comes up with plenty of hits. it passes WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY since they represented indian national team n a fifa world cup level. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 06:03, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete WP:TOOSOON. fails subject specific guidelines, specifically WP:NFOOTBALL which specifically excludes youth football as inherently notable. Coverage is WP:ROUTINE and per WP:ANYBIO does not indicate he has made widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record of football. ClubOranje^T 07:18, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • BTW, applies to all three, which I had previously PRODed. ClubOranje^T 07:25, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all - None of them have received significant coverage, or played in a fully professional league, meaning all of these articles fail WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:17, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep ALL - Amarjit Singh Kiyam is captain of Indian national under 17 football team. This team playing historical first ever FIFA world cup at any stage for the nation. All the notable sources are covering them. These players also represents team in many big tournament as AFC Championship. There are many articles for under 17 players, some of those not even play for their national team and in big tournaments. सुमित सिंह (talk) 08:07, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep ALL - These players are incredibly famous atleast in ther home country, requesting to keep all, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hemanth7787 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all They make work on the Indian part of wiki, but this is English wikipedia and they fail WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG Govvy (talk) 14:48, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Simply fails WP:GNG. Player is yet to play in a fully pro league. RRD (talk) 15:31, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply - I wonder that playing for a specific league is eligible for WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY but not for national team and FIFA tournaments. We need to review our policies. सुमित सिंह (talk) 03:17, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • The player has not played for the senior national team, he has just played for the youth national team. A player playing for the senior national team is notable, not someone who has represented the youth team (FIFA competition etc does not matter). As said by Govvy, the player might be notable in some Indian wiki or football wiki, but not here. RRD (talk) 04:39, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • Reply India is one of the largest english speaking country in the world.english is one of our offical language too so how can u say these profles should be on indian wiki not here?Playing for a youth national team is not notable But the players who playing the tournament is notable? how the tounament got a wiki here? Why this double standard? should 2017 FIFA U-17 World Cup also in afd?. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 16:33, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• @सुमित सिंह and सुमित सिंह: to answer your question youth team appearances are not considered notable because many players who play for their youth team do not go on to become professional. How many of the Indian u-17 team can you name from 10 years ago? @Akhiljaxxn: there is no double standard, please read WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. I agree with both of you that there are problems in Wikipedia's notability guidelines and inherent biases, but these should be discussed in a constructive manner on places such as the WikiProject's talk page.

Trust me there is nothing I hate more than nominating articles for deletion, and it has happened to me too that article(s) which I put a lot of effort and time were deleted. If it were up to me I would never nominate articles for deletion. Unfortunately Wikipedia has policies and guidelines and we as editors have to follow them. There is still a lot of work to do on Indian football see here so please do not take this AFD personally and instead try to see it as a learning curve because we would all like you guys to stay and keep editing. If these articles happen to be deleted please remember all is not lost and you can always recreate them when they meet said guidelines. Inter&anthro (talk) 18:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all - fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 17:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all Contrary to the above claims, they do not pass WP:NFOOTBALL as they have not played for the senior national team. It has been well established over many years that youth caps do not confer notability. Number 57 09:10, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all - Fail NFOOTY as have not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subjects have garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 08:55, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all none of these individuals meet our notability guidelines for footballers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:58, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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