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Empires with sourced areas but without dates[edit]
I figured I'd make a section for empires where sources have been found for the maximum extent but with no year specified (meaning they can't be included in the list). My hope is that this will be helpful when people try to locate sources. Feel free to add entries of your own to the list below. TompaDompa (talk) 23:38, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ashanti Empire: 100,000 square miles[1] – since added using this source which provides the corresponding figure of 250,000 km2 and the year 1820.[2]TompaDompa (talk) 21:05, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dzungar Khanate: 3,600,000 km2[3] – since added using this source which provides the same figure and the year 1650.[6]TompaDompa (talk) 03:03, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Xianbei state: 4,500,000 km2[3] – since added using this source which provides the same figure and the year 200.[6]TompaDompa (talk) 03:03, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think we can add those empires in the list, I would only noted in the time cell "unknown". Janos Neman (talk) 12:09, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This article is about largest empires, as such they might not have been at the time they existed. Slatersteven (talk)
References
^Obeng, J. Pashington (1996). Asante Catholicism: Religious and Cultural Reproduction Among the Akan of Ghana. BRILL. p. 20. ISBN 978-90-04-10631-4. An empire of a hundred thousand square miles, occupied by about three million people from different ethnic groups, made it imperative for the Asante to evolve sophisticated statal and parastatal institutions [...]
^Wade, Geoff (2014-10-17). Asian Expansions: The Historical Experiences of Polity Expansion in Asia. Routledge. p. 144. ISBN 978-1-135-04353-7. [W]hen Nguyễn Vietnam surrendered to France in the late nineteenth century the territory it claimed to control had more than tripled to over 370,000 square kilometres
^Hart, Hornell (1948). "The Logistic Growth of Political Areas". Social Forces. 26 (4): 402. doi:10.2307/2571873. ISSN0037-7732. In the Mediterranean area the earliest historic governments which extended their territory by major use of fleets were the Greek and the Phoenecian, reaching areas of approximately 250,000 square miles each
^Alcock, Susan E.; D'Altroy, Terence N.; Morrison, Kathleen D.; Sinopoli, Carla M. (2001-08-09). Empires: Perspectives from Archaeology and History. Cambridge University Press. p. 85. ISBN 978-0-521-77020-0. The total spatial extent of the empire, not including the north coast, I estimate to have been some 320,000 square kilometers.
The sokoto caliphate had effective control of the sulatanate of Agadez in the north (in present Niger Republic) to Lokoja at the Niger confluence, from the west it stretched from Segou(emirate of hamdullahi),they had effective control on yorubaland thanks to the illorin emirate.to the east they had adamawa,this emirate alone was 400,000 sqkm so the whole empire cant be that same size,further northeast they had control of of most of western tchd and all the tchad lake
wich is 1.95million square kilometers,i will be changing the size and providing sources
My main one is the thesis of Murray last on the sokoto caliphate 85.192.74.198 (talk) 10:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would rather you presented the sources here. Slatersteven (talk) 10:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to "List of largest historic countries"[edit]
Hi there I think this article should we renamed, to something like the title of this discussion. Empires is just a very specific political concept. Nsae Comp (talk) 23:26, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]