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Category:Types of scientific fallacy

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 21#Category:Types of scientific fallacy

Category:Foreign relations of Wales

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 18:44, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Foreign relations are a thing states do, but Wales is not a state. This category makes little sense and seems to be a catch all for anything Wales does with anything that is not Wales. Considered just proposing renaming, but it is too indiscriminate asis. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:45, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose deletion - It's not a requirement to be a state to have some form of international relations. I'm not opposed to tweaking the name of the category though. See Category:Foreign relations of Scotland also. Titus Gold (talk) 22:10, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But what are the inclusion criteria here? Things like pacifism in Wales are very tenuously linked with international relations. Also England–Wales relations‎ are neither foreign nor international, as England and Wales are in the same state and realm. Renaming to International relations of Wales would be fine with me if the boundary were more tightly and clearly drawn. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:14, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Closest is the subcat Category:England–Wales relations which corresponds to all entries in Category:Treaties of Wales which at the time Wales and England were distinct geopolitical entities. They were both different countries with different rulers. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So all 4 treaties in that category are from the 13th century and relate to the principality of Wales. The situation is rather more nuanced than you suggest here. The prince of Wales paid homage as vassal to the English king, so "different rulers" is true, but only half the story. As for different countries: the principality was not the whole country of Wales. The treaties were largely about settling threats of English invasion, and is it correct to call a treaty with a liege lord as "foreign relations"? In any case, if we grant that those 4 treaties in some sense constitute foreign relations of Wales, they are already in a category. They don't need an extra shell category. As per SionK above, the situation is rather different from Scotland's. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:50, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Crossword compilers

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Category:People from Cidade de Deus

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 20:43, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for just two people. We do not have any established scheme of subdividing people from Rio by individual neighbourhood within the city, and a category for just two people isn't sufficient to justify implementing a new scheme of that type now. Bearcat (talk) 17:38, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Murdered socialists

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Category:Liga F players by club

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:57, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary categorization of club players by the league played in. Most leagues will feature promotion and relegation, therefore it is not useful to categorize by which league the team competes in, as this can change from season to season. Even in leagues without relegation, teams may have competed in other leagues before and after participating in the relevant leagues. For example, Category:Chicago Red Stars players contains those who competed in the WPS and NWSL, therefore currently the NWSL players are in the category tree of Category:Women's Professional Soccer players and the WPS players are in the tree of Category:National Women's Soccer League players, which makes little sense. This category structure also causes players of reserve teams to be within the category tree of leagues they do not participate in. For example, Category:FC Barcelona FemenĂ­ B players is a subcategory of Category:FC Barcelona FemenĂ­ players, which in turn is a subcategory of Category:Liga F players. S.A. Julio (talk) 15:58, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Socccc: Can you provide an example for women's teams instead when you write: "Consistently subcategorizing players by club's league or timeframe within leagues, for instance as Category:Portland Timbers players does with Category:Portland Timbers (1975–1982) players, Category:Portland Timbers (1985–1990) players, etc., would alleviate this problem without deleting the categories by providing a way to parent player categorization lists by club's league without removing the tree association with the club over time." Hmlarson (talk) 02:49, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, thanks to User:S.A. Julio's 19:11, 19 May 2023 (UTC) comment noting that those categories correspond to articles, which I wasn't aware of. -Socccc (talk) 03:53, 1 June 2023 (UTC) Socccc (talk) 03:53, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Wildfires

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 20:44, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently 1 of 2 articles in each of these categories. The articles are already in a wildfires by year category, hence a second merge target is not needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:17, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Basketball in Beaumont, Texas

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 20:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains 1 article 1 head category. Unlikely to grow significantly. User:Namiba 13:43, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indian people of Kashmiri descent

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 20:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, we use this type of categories only for descendants of emigrants. In this case there is no emigration. Note that nearly all articles are already in Category:Kashmiri people as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:24, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Descent within a country is note notable. What's next, German people of Saxon descent? Note that for people for which Kashmiri identity is defining, then Category:Kashmiri people and its subcategories is appropriate even if they live outside of Kashmir. If it is defining for their parents only and not themselves, then no category is needed. Place Clichy (talk) 12:25, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of spouses of national leaders

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:05, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to "Category:Spouses of national leaders" being Split into Category:Spouses of heads of state and Category:Spouses of prime ministers.
We should diffuse as much as possible to Category:Spouses of presidents by country, Category:Spouses of prime ministers by country, Category:Spouses of vice presidents (for cats like Category:Second spouses of the United States), Category:Consorts of monarchs, and Category:Viceregal consorts. Anything that won't fit in these 5 categories should be upmerged to Category:Spouses of politicians. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:08, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS: For background information and preliminary discussion, see User talk:Nederlandse Leeuw#Spouses of national leaders. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:09, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, "spouses of national leaders" is vague and we do not otherwise have a tree for national leaders. In most cases it appears to mean "spouses of heads of state", but better make that explicit. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:32, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support generally -- They all seem to be containers for categories for spouses of holders of a particular office, so that the suggested change is appropriate. If any contained actual biographies, I would oppose to that extent. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:58, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:OMICS Publishing Group academic journals

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting
Nominator's rationale: Appears to be that all items are redirects to the same pages. Unless I missed a handful of non-redirects, then perhaps a purge is in order to at least make it reasonable to find notable articles. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:42, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OMICS has the non-redirect Indian Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences. Allied has the non-redirects Academy of Entrepreneurship Journal, Academy of Strategic Management Journal, Biomedical Research, and International Tinnitus Journal. Pulsus has the non-redirects Clinical Practice, Imaging in Medicine, International Journal of Clinical Rheumatology, and Neuropsychiatry (journal). Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:06, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is easy to tell what it is with the repeated attempts to delete these categories: they are used for a purpose that is alien to normal category usage. Editors will keep nominating them for deletion until you found a better solution than categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:24, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, gotta be honest, the current solution is poor and needs replacing. I'm willing to withdraw since prior consensus exists and this is unlikely to change anyone's minds, but a category listing at the bottom of the page is a bad way of displaying this information and antithetical to normal category usage. If not for this alternate intent, I can't imagine any of these three surviving even one CfD, let alone the at least four that have been linked in these responses. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:37, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    These are perfectly normal categories, used in perfectly normal ways, no different than say Category:E. Schweizerbart academic journals. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:17, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sons of heads of state

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 19:01, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete/merge, trivial intersection with gender, WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/merge per nomination. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:48, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question I'm cautiously in favour of this, but what about Category:Daughters of monarchs and Category:Sons of monarchs? Monarchs are technically heads of state. Is it reasonable to keep them separated by gender, given that dynastic politics often involved marrying off one's daughter etc. and that (especially in Europe) only the oldest son had the right to inherit his father's throne etc.? Historically, gender did play a strong role for children of monarchs. For (modern) presidents, gender may no longer matter because they are elected/appointed rather than hereditarily succeeded. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:18, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Puttalam

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People from Puttalam District. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 18:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: already down exist category not needed Monhiroe (talk) 05:37, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Geotechnical conferences

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 18:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT approaching WP:C1, an unpopulated category
We currently don't have any articles on this topic. Rather, the two articles—GĂ©otechnique Lecture and Rankine Lecture—are both lectures held at conferences of the British Geotechnical Association. (No objection to recreation if we ever get up to 5+ articles, although the title should be Category:Geotechnical engineering conferences.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nancy L. Schwartz Memorial Lecture speakers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 18:58, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT)
Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management hosts an annual lecture on economics and this category groups economists who gave the talk. This performance isn't treated as defining in the articles, which are generally already categorized somewhere under Category:Economists. The category contents are already listed right here in the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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