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Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive! We have reached the end of our fourth backlog elimination drive. Thanks to all who participated. Stats 58 people signed up for this drive. Of these, 48 people participated in the drive. Although we did not eliminate the months we planned to (January, February, and March 2009; and August, September, and October 2010), we did reduce the backlog by 627 articles (11.2%), which was over our goal of 10%. 49 awards will go out to 33 of 48 participants. Check out the complete list of barnstar winners here. Barnstars If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you participated in the September 2010 backlog elimination drive, you may have earned roll-over words (more details can be found here). These roll-over words count as credit towards earning barnstars, except for leaderboard awards. We will be delivering these barnstars within the next couple of weeks. Our next drive is scheduled for January 2011. In the meantime, please consider helping out at the Wikification drive or any of the other places where help with backlogs is needed. Thank you for participating in the last 2010 backlog elimination drive! We look forward to seeing you in January! Your drive coordinators –The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa (Talk)

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Season's Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2010. Read all about these in the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report. Highlights Membership grows to 503 editors 2,589 articles removed through four Backlog elimination drives Our encounter with Jimbo Wales Guild home pages reorganized and redesigned Report on our inaugural elections Guild Plans for 2011 New barnstars introduced Requests page improved Sign up for the January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Get your copy of the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report here On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. See you in 2011! – Your Coordinators: S Masters (lead), Diannaa, The Utahraptor, and Tea with toast.

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Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 backlog elimination drive Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! The drive is halfway over, so here are some mid-drive stats. Participation So far, 43 people have signed up for this drive. Of these, 25 have participated. If you signed up for the drive but haven't participated yet, it's not too late! Try to copy edit at least a few articles. Remember, if you have rollover words from the last drive, you will lose them if you do not participate in this drive. If you haven't signed up for the drive yet, you can sign up now. Progress report We have eliminated two months from the backlog – January and February 2009. One of our goals is to eliminate as many months as possible from the 2009 backlog. Please help us reduce the size of this part of the backlog if you haven't already. Another goal is to reduce the entire backlog by 10%, or by 515 articles. Currently, we have eliminated 375 articles from the queue, so if each participant copy edits four more articles, we will reach that goal. Thank you for participating in the January 2011 drive. We anticipate it will be another big success! Your drive coordinators –S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), The UtahraptorTalk to me, and Tea with toast (Talk)

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Hi! I reverted your edit to Herodotus and I hope this won't cause you any annoyance. The article said the 'Father of History' was 'the first historian known to..." and that is not redundant, nor does it imply that he was the first historian. The article certainly needs more contributions and I hope you will maintain an interest in it. McZeus (talk) 00:18, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 Backlog elimination drive Greetings from the January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! We have reached the end of the month and the end of another successful drive; thanks to all who participated. Statistics 54 people signed up for the year's first Backlog elimination drive. Of these, 40 participated. One of our goals was to reduce the size of the backlog by at least 10%. We managed to reduce the backlog by 633 articles, or about 12%. Another goal was to eliminate as many 2009 months as possible from the queue. We eliminated January, February, March, and April—4 out of 12 months is not bad! In addition, we eliminated 37% of all remaining 2009 articles from the queue. Chaosdruid copy edited Kutch Gurjar Kashtriya for 32,711 words, which is the largest single article completed in one of our drives so far. This article counts as six 5000-K articles, and Chaosdruid wins the "most 5000-K articles" leaderboard category. Way to go! A complete list of individual results is here. Barnstars If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you participated in the November 2010 Backlog elimination drive, you may have earned roll-over words (more details can be found here). These roll-over words count as credit towards earning barnstars, except for leaderboard awards. We will be delivering the barnstars within the next couple of weeks. Thank you for participating in this year's first Backlog elimination drive! We hope to see you in March. Your drive coordinators –S Masters (talk), Diannaa (talk), The Utahraptor (talk), and Tea with toast (talk)

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I'm sorry but I had to denouce that you violated the formal mediation here, you can post your feedback there. Best regards 200.87.23.193 (talk) 15:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, well I'm just letting you know that there was an answer and it was advised that any 3RR breaking should be reported in WP:AN3, you reverted me 3 times before and now you reverted a forth to Erios30, so I'm afraid I'll have to report that. 200.87.23.193 (talk) 23:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can do as you please.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 23:52, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You have a new message at Talk:Diablada's talk page. Infoman99 (talk) 08:28, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Guild of Copy Editors – May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive The Guild of Copy Editors invite you to participate in the May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive began on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). The goals of this backlog elimination drive are to eliminate as many articles as possible from the 2009 backlog and to reduce the overall backlog by 15%. ! NEW ! In an effort to encourage the final elimination of all 2009 articles, we will be tracking them on the leaderboard for this drive. Awards and barnstars A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants. Some are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page. We look forward to meeting you on the drive! Your GOCE coordinators: SMasters, Diannaa, Tea with toast, Chaosdruid, and Torchiest

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You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Alliance Peru Bolivia 1873 and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

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Thanks, --Keysanger (what?) 15:14, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alex, Hi MarshallN20,

I apologize for my error by the transcription of Sater's passage. It was unintentional and I don't know were occured the first time. My rationale stays without prejudice of the typo. Best Regards, --Keysanger (what?) 10:37, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We're all human, and humans make mistakes. Best of wishes.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 13:32, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article Manu militari has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not really an encyclopedia article. Unsourced, and we don't need articles simply translating non-English phrases. Wiktionary already has an entry for 'manu militari'.

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The article Peru v Scotland (1978) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This match is not particularly notable by itself, any more than any other match Peru or Scotland played at the 1978 World Cup.

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Hello, just a note to say that I have moved this to an AfD discussion. As you can probably tell from my opening statement, I would be perfectly happy with the article to stand if it was expanded to include the other games in that group and moved to something like 1978 FIFA World Cup Group D. I just don't think the match merits a standalone article. Thanks, James. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 06:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have just noticed it. However, it seems a lengthy discussion, it will take me a while to read it all and check some sources by myself before being able to say something. I'm from Argentina, and Argentina did not took part in the war, so most history books I have provide little or no information about it. It's not a topic I'm really familiar with, so I don't want to interrupt with things said from ignorance or naivety; I will join the discussion once I know what I'm talking about.

Which is the controversial point? Is it the date of the Bolivian declaration of war, or who did declare war first? The reasons why each side waged the war, are they disputed? Cambalachero (talk) 19:29, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, you're right. But can you please change the wording on the sentence immediately following it? Integrate it. At the moment the two sentences are still slightly overlapping. While having originated from a place is not necessarily equivalent to being native there, one sentence claims it may have been domesticated in any of the two regions, while the other claims it was domesticated in only one region. Perhaps 'cultivated' would have been a better replacement for the second instance of 'domesticated'.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:33, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. But articles on the most common food plants are often the most difficult ones to clean and update. :( Anyway, the wording looks better I, think. Thanks! - Obsidi♠n Soul 03:58, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello I have created the article Chilenization of Tacna, Arica and Tarapacá, and think you might be interested in contributing. Currently the article is unsourced and somewhat poor in information.

Saludos, Chiton magnificus (talk) 10:06, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[1] I have initiated a WQA concerning your personal attacks. This is a courtesy notice. Wee Curry Monster talk 19:31, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

	The Civility Barnstar
	For your civility and reasonableness at WQA. It's not easy to remain civil when you're in a dispute and you're having inflammatory comments directed at you, but you managed to do so. Swarm u / t 17:41, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey MarshalN20 I have seen that you insist in include a section on Grau being called Caballero in the [[|War of the Pacific|WotP]] article. As you know I disagree with that specific point but are generally against many of Keysangers natiolistic-Chilean tiny but numerous "pushes". I think that wasting time on this point of little relevance is not fruitful and hampers the solving of the truly important issues of the article. I would sacrifice my position on this point (as I dont consider it realy importnat) if it would lead somewhere but if I do Keysanger will still be there and I think it would be easier of you realize that there more important issues at the stake. This minor issue can be take up again when the article is free of those ugly warning texts that it was in begining. Chiton magnificus (talk) 09:42, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For your efforts fighting vandalism at Diablada and many other articles in Wikipedia Erebedhel - Talk 22:10, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Marshal, it has been a while since we don't speak, I was very busy with work and writing this year, I hope everything goes very well with you as well. I just wanted to write you to thank you for the work you did at Diablada I saw your improvements and they are great! I'm glad to see that, leaving aside some little problems with few editors, it managed to remain pretty stable throughout this year. I'll just recover some information that got lost in the process but everything looks great. If I don't see you till the end of the month I want to wish you merry christmas and happy new year for you and your family. Cheers Erebedhel - Talk 22:10, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Guild of Copy Editors 2011 Year-End Report We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report. Highlights Membership grows to 764 editors, an increase of 261 Report on coordinators' elections Around 1,000 articles removed through six Backlog elimination drives Guild Plans for 2012 Requests page report Sign up for the January 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Get your copy of the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report here On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. We look forward to your support in 2012! – Your 2011 Coordinators: Diannaa (lead), The Utahraptor, and Slon02 and SMasters (emeritus).

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Marshall, Keysanger has just been added 11 new issues in the War of the Pacific article, some of them already debated, we can't allow this, what we do know? Undo the entire talk page? This is becoming endless!. Greetings. --Ian (CloudAOC) | ^Talk 18:23, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing new. When RMs are contentious and close calls, someone always disapproves. That's why the WMF pays me the big bucks.--Mike Cline (talk) 01:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is a message for you here just in case you didn't spot it I think I prefer to keep conversations in one place. Cheers Teberald (talk) 05:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article Ricardo Silva Elizondo has been proposed for deletion because, under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. CharlieDelta (talk) 20:45, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Marshall, the Battle of Callao article is currently being pushed to an Spanish POV by the editor Durero. I'll deal with him before and successfully kept the article neutral, but -as you know- the WoP article has been kept us busy for years, and I want to ask you if you can help me to deal with this particular editor now. Thanks and greetings.--Ian (CloudAOC) | ^Talk 21:19, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I answered you nice drink, which tasted nice, on my talk page. I see you are from Peru. I must say your English is SUPERB. I like plants and thought I'd start out there. I see the soybean article could use some work. I don't want to tackle writing yet, but noticed this article has some sort of notice tag about references and that you elaborate on that? Some of the references look really nice and use some sort of formatter with "cite" in them and some look really ugly. Can you tell me what to do there to get me started to make the references look better? Thank you. 512bits (talk) 23:50, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you attempting to keep those references attached to the template? If so, you should move your reflist outside of the noinclude, to clear the cite error on the transcluded articles. Thanks! :)  -- WikHead (talk) 07:28, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, it looks like you've gone off line, so I've done this myself. May still require further adjustment. Regards,  -- WikHead (talk) 08:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I put two boxes on my user page but they are different sizes. Do you know how to make them the same size and make them look nice?512bits (talk) 03:01, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm done with the references on soybean. I'd like to do the same on the botany article and fix it up as best I can. However I don't really know how to go about making the body as as best one can. I view the botany article as a key one among the plant articles and it'd be nice to have it be the best we can. Are you interested in helping out there? 512bits (talk) 01:25, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I clicked the watch button for your page, so you can answer here from now on if you like. Left another question for you on mine. 512bits (talk) 02:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you've found a part of the project you'll enjoy working on. As I write on my userpage, the work done by users like you are truly helping shape the modern world (imagine the thousands of people that will read your work). I'll try to help out on the botany article whenever possible, but I can't make any promises. Regards.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 03:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Are you in Peru right now? If so, do you do photo requests? WhisperToMe (talk) 05:27, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Alright - thanks anyway, then. I wish you well WhisperToMe (talk) 18:23, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I stumbled across Flubeca's user page, liked it, modified it, and you will find something I think you'll really like on my user page. ;-) 512bits (talk) 02:15, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

An editor since 2008 (and a proffessional historian, as you claim) should understand how important is to mention all possible names, especially for less-than pop topics, i.e., other than pokemon and pornstars. This is vital in search for information, especially if one starts search from poorly translated or even foreign sources. Also, I am baffled with your understanding of the term "constructive". Not to say that you reverted to a verison with a misleading wikipipe. Locador (talk) 02:05, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Talk:Botany#Botany_article_structure_and_concerns. Thank you. 512bits (talk) 23:35, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent editing history at Talk:Falkland Islands shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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How can I put this without violating WP:OUT? I know exactly who Alex79818 is, I know the connection to the name you mentioned and it happens to be a forum run by an ardent Malvinist. They also happen to hate my guts. Can't think why but they do, I guess the truth is what they're afraid of. They also happen to be banned from wikipedia. Probably more than I should have said but thats the wiki for you. Wee Curry Monster talk 23:18, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have blocked LucMar 24 hours for edit warring and pointedly ignoring attempts to discuss his edits to Caporales. If he resumes reverting after his block, I'll escalate it, but hopefully it doesn't come to that. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:19, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter. Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far. Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers. Your drive coordinators – Dianna (talk), Stfg (talk), and Dank (talk) To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for your disruption caused by edit warring and violation of the three-revert rule at Pisco Sour. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} below this notice, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. --Chris (talk) 07:21, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: Plenty of time has passed (an absurd amount of time), so now I'm withdrawing my unblock request. I am 100% sure that I have not done anything wrong or deserving of even a 1 second block. Writing an appeal to the block holds a chance of success depending on the mood of the reviewing administrator. This block is neither teaching me anything or is it going to stop me from doing what I did in the Pisco Sour article (which was to follow the rules of Wikipedia). Not only did I actively promoted discussion of the topic on the article's talk page, but I provided plenty of warnings to the other user about his edits which constitute nothing more than vandalism. I am at peace with my actions and do not need an administrator to judge them. If Chris believes that what he did was right, then that is that. Regards.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 00:40, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My unblock reason is inside the funny blue box. I am not sure why it is not showing up (my technical skills are a bit behind). If the reviewing administrator could please help me out by fixing this minor issue (show the text of my unblock request), then I would be mighty grateful. Also, I express my apologies for taking up their time, and my appreciation for you taking the time to review my block. Best of wishes.--MarshalN20| ^Talk 14:13, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The reason the unblock request is having problems is your signature -- you've included the "pipe" character, "|", which is OK outside of a template (which is why it usually doesn't cause problems for you.) You'll either need to pick a different character or surround the pipe with "nowiki", like I did in this comment. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 14:31, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha. I see! Thank you very much Jpgordon. I have learned something today, and that makes it all worth it. Regards.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 14:37, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Argh? Sorry to hear this. At least he blocked both of you and not just one side. Wish I could help, but I of course am not an admin. Good luck. 512bits (talk) 14:19, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you 512bits for your comment; it is much appreciated. Sometimes these things happen. It's part of the Wikipedia editing process. Some users get worked up about it, but I like to think of these temporary blocks as "breaks" from Wikipedia. The administrators are people too, and sometimes they make mistakes just as any other regular editor. My justification for the unblock request (which for some reason is not showing up), thoroughly explains why my block is unjustified. Regards.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 14:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to point out that this block was not made in error. You and the other editor both clearly violated 3RR. Whether or not the other party is engaging your attempts at discussion, edit warring is not acceptable. Please follow the dispute resolution process (which does not include reverting continuously). --Chris (talk) 20:18, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not going to stand aloof while the other editor blatantly deletes sourced material. The last edit I made to the article was done in Good Faith as one hour had passed since the other editor had made his last edit (and since I had posted the 3RR report). I even notified the 3RR board that I had done this edit ([6]), which I assume is the edit which caused my 3RR breaking. I assumed that by explaining the edit to the 3RR board, it would be understood as a good faith attempt to help (not disrupt). As proven by the diffs, my attempts at discussion with the other editor were numerous (if not excessive), and so my good faith cannot be put in question. As Kuru wrote to me, you had the option to decide, and you took your choice. I do not condemn you for your decision (and neither am I angry with you), and Kuru also explained the logic of it. However, that does not mean I have to agree with it. Best of wishes.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 20:35, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Philip Ainsworth Means a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. VQuakr (talk) 18:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Asking Nadiatalent and Anna Frodesiak to post here too. I see some photos' description page are here and some have a note that says they are on Wiki Commons. What is that place? If they are on Wiki Commons how do they show up here on English Wikipedia? I took some photos of fig and persimmon buds in my yard and want to photograph them through the year. Where should I put my photos and how do I do it? Got a good plant picture I can use as a guide? Still working on Botany article too.512bits (talk) 00:41, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. the chat is on my talk page, so let's all centralize there. 512bits (talk) 01:04, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See [7]. I did better on the trichomes (hairs) than I thought. 512bits (talk) 02:16, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I'm happy to take on board any constructive feedback whether I agree with it or not. However, your use of the word awesome really made my day. Thank you. ClaretAsh 14:38, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MarshallN20

I raised a report to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#War_of_the_Pacific where you are mentioned. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 12:25, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great, another fun moment.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 15:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Congratulations for the work and nomination of Pisco Sour for GA status. However I think we both have failed in noticing each others work, in thw histoy section of New World Wine I have put large pieces of sourced information regarding vineyards and wine in both Chile and Peru. I think the background section of Pisco Sour could include the facts:

1. that the Ica-Pisco region was the main wine growing region of Peru. In fact the "Cusco wine" seems more like an anecdote, than something of true significance.
2. that first vines in America were most likely drived from the Mónica grape (from Spain and Sardinia), from which Negra peruana (and País, and Mission and Chica criolla) comes.
3. That Potosí and Lima fueled early demand in aguardiante

and most importantly:

1. That Peru shifted production from wine to pisco in late colonial times

-Chiton magnificus (talk) 15:18, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some of the relevant historical information to the article, but not all since its to much and belong rather in a Peruvian wine article or in the history section of pisco. While I enjoyed the juicy Lima hotel stories on pisco sour I felt that Chilean consumption and production is not adressed enought. When did pisco sour became popular in Chile? Also the fact that much of pisco sour is bottled is also no adressed. Production and consumption numbers are also omited. Which shoud not be so difficult to find.Chiton magnificus (talk) 23:12, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your recent contributions! 66.87.2.193 (talk) 16:36, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please see Talk:Botany#Where_to_go_now. Thank you. 512bits (talk) 15:56, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I saw here on your page that you are in some copy editor group. Could you look over the botany article and see what you think? Is anything lacking? Also, I still want to make it as good as I can so what should I do next?512bits (talk) 21:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See answer there.512bits (talk) 22:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've expanded the intro in order to help get it ready for GA candidacy. Improvements by you are appreciated. 512bits (talk) 18:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated this for GA now. Big thanks to you for all your kind help.512bits (talk) 21:51, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you were offended by my remarks on my talk page, I didn't mean to compare you to George Zimmerman--it's just that his name came to mind when I saw the phrase "Peruvian stalker". This is not the first time my attempts at humor have been misinterpreted by other users, so I think it's a sign that I have been careless with my attempted jokes. Again sorry, and I would gladly help out with that article you mentioned. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:32, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was not angry at you, but thank you for the apology. What is most valuable to me from your message is that you are allowing me a chance to demonstrate that I am not the creepy character painted by Lecen. Also, please pardon my challenge to your claim, but your joke was indeed quite funny. Crude humor is also humor, although it did hurt (but that's part of the point to crude humor). In any case, it was not you who started the comedy play, but rather Lecen. While your joke is a needle in a haystack, Lecen's humor comes from a box of personal attacks that cannot reasonably allow me to think of it in good faith.

If you really want to help me with the Pisco Sour article, I would be indebted to your kindness. However, given the rather unplesant circumstances, please do not think of it as a necessity (i.e., only check it if you feel like it). For the time being, the article is a dead body that has been a burden to me for a while now (see the pun? Hehe). Regards.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 23:23, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your kind words, it's good to hear that you're not angry. It will be interesting to read that article; ironically I'm actually a designated driver tonight :) Mark Arsten (talk) 02:35, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hola Marshal, he revisado los datos de la CIA sobre la etnografía de otros países y comparándolos con lo que hay en las páginas de Wikipedia en inglés no soinciden. Los Estados Unidos no toma como referencia a los datos CIA. Te invito a que leeas un artículo de mi blog que trata sobre estos porcentajes.--KobainCRSTN (talk) 04:35, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article Pisco Sour you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Pisco Sour for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:59, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MarshalN20, I have left a message for you at Talk:Falkland Islands. Martinvl (talk) 20:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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MarshalN20, i noticed you reverted the Cisplatine War article to a vandalized version. I restored the previous version, which was a consensus solution of a long debate both on the talk page and the history logs.

I understand you did your edition in good faith, however the version you reverted to was basically a vandalism by 186.58.73.206/164.85.68.12, who added several unscientifical comments to the article based on his POV (mostly, derrogatory comments about the outcome of the war and comments such as "if you ignore the fact that the Brazilian Empire lost Uruguay" after sentences based on multiple independent sources) in order to change the appearance of the outcome of the war (which most authors interpretate as a minor victory for the Brazilian Empire, who managed to attain 2 out of it's 3 goals and destroy the United Provinces navy) in order to suit a nationalistic argentine POV.

As the previous edition was a consensus version, the mere disgruntlement of that IP would not be a valid reason to take down a well debated version, so i undid that edition.

Anyway, if you got any questions, ask me on my IP.

And by the way, i found that reference by Daniel Stowell very interesting to my research. Is it available in the internet for free, or only in JSTOR?

-189.34.172.112 (talk) 02:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Marshall it would be helpful to have your opinion on this and and this. Chiton (talk) 18:35, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

La bandera de borgoña no es de ningún virreinato. La división de virreinatos estuvon abolida durante los periodos de la constitución de Cádiz, en que América estaba dividida en Provincias Constitucionales. Poner el virreinato del Perú sólo y aislado no tiene sentido, da la información falsa de que sólo Vice.Perú combatió. Eso no es verdad. Además una lista exahustiva de los dominios españoles en la ficha es innecesaria, pero si te empeñas en poner una lista deberías hacer un anexo con la lista de dominios americanos leales y podría ser una solución.

The flag of Burgundy is by no viceroyalty. The division of "viceroyalties" was abolished during the periods of the Constitution of Cadiz, when America was divided into "provinces Constitutional". Put the Viceroyalty of Peru alone and isolated as combatant, it makes sense, given the false information that only Vice.Perú fought. That's not true. Besides an exhaustive list of the Spanish dominions in the infobox is unnecessary, but if you insist on putting a list should do an annex with the list of domains and loyal Americans could be a solution. --Santos30 (talk) 17:39, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"The Cross of Burgundy was used as the representative war flag of the Spanish viceroyalties" Wikipedia:No original research.--Santos30 (talk) 19:41, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Liga Federal" bueno una banderita más y nada más, pero ¿qué ha mejorado el infobox o el artículo?. Mejor haga usted un buen cuadro resúmen para el cuerpo del artículo de los países hispanoamericanos resultantes y desaparecidos en la independencia ¿no?.--Santos30 (talk) 20:48, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I recomend you bouth (Santos and Marshal) to discuss the flag thing here: Talk:Spanish_Empire#Flag_of_Carlism in order to have an unified discussion on the representative flags of the Spanish Empire. Chiton (talk) 21:30, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Marshal te he respondido y te he puesto un ejemplo en Imperio español para que lo coprendas mejor. Ves que las banderas de cruz de borgoña se parecen pero no son iguales (la historica tiene el escudo real y la moderna no lo tiene). He abierto el infobox de independencia hispanoamericana para poner banderas militares de la cruz de borgoña si lo deseas. La fuente que has aportado es terciaria pero se agradece, hacen muchas generalizaciones pero dejan claro que hasta la revolución francesa o estadounidense no hay banderas para representar a ningún estado nacional. Tu fuente habla de los colores rojo y blanco que eligió San Martín. Son sólo tradiciones peruanas nada más porque San Martín no explicó porqué eligió el rojo y blanco.
• La cruz militar de borgoña no representa al virreinato del Perú ni a ningún lugar de América. Las provincias de América no son fuerzas militares ni fortalezas. América y el Virreinato del Perú incluido, formaban territorios integrantes de la corona de Castilla por tanto deben llevar sus escudos o estandartes territoriales ajustados según época. En las fichas de virreinatos pongo la primera bandera española (es la única que hubo) como símbolo de la tentativa de España de nacionalizar los vice-reinos y reinos castellanos de América y que fracasó por la independencia como sabemos.
• Desgraciadamente desde el año 2006 que en WP-ES se impuso por editores nacionalistas españoles que la cruz militar de borgoña tenía que ser la bandera del Imperio español (sin más argumento que era la bandera militar más usada). Hubo latinos que mordieron el anzuelo para no ver la bandera roji-gualda española en la ficha (eso dejó más olvidado el conocimiento del estudio territorial de América). Y además van difundiendo también sus invenciones de que "España" se constituyó en 1500 o en 1700 y van confundiendo a medio planeta. Porque el estado nacional español sólo existe desde su primera constitución (1812), lo mismo que los paises latinoamericanos, y ni un minuto antes. Pero su pretensión de querer ser un país nacional en 1500 o 1700 va de la mano con que América no tenía personalidad y podía ser parte de cualquier territorio de España (como parte del reino de Aragón por ejemplo) y eso es completamente falso y ocurrente.
• América formó parte de España sólo a través de Castilla. Eso es un hecho contrastadísimo. Y al final, como partes integrantes de Castilla cada junta americana defendió su libertad de incorporarse o no a España (y negó cualquier superioridad de las juntas peninsulares), lo que condujo al conflicto y la independencia finalmente. Te paso bibliografía para que puedas sacar tu mismo tus conclusiones. aquí es un buenresúmen y siguiendo este enlace la primera constituyente de España y luego El proceso de incorporacion de las Indias a Castilla . La cruz militar de borgoña es una bandera de las fuerzas armadas que por error de WP-ES no se puso la debida advertencia, pero ni son capaces de admitir con humildad que se han convertido en fuente primaria de esa fabulación que ha difundido su error. Y no admitiré que se imponga a la historia de América ése error.--Santos30 (talk) 16:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I never intended not to respect anything, including the Peruvian choice of name for this plate (BTW I love "Cebiche a la peruana", with hot peppers, something less or even rarely used in Chilean cuisine). I respect the name choice in the dictionary of the RAE, cebiche; ceviche and the other one being redirects to the preferred name. All the best, amigo mio. --E4024 (talk) 17:56, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant is that the plate's name is acceptable in various forms; it always has been and always will be. So you can call it any name you want to (whether it be seviche, sebiche, ceviche, cebiche, etc.), and there is no problem. Regards.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 00:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, would you mind to work towards a consensus rather than just reverting everything. Thanks. --Welshwind (talk) 12:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm sorry we seem to have got off on the wrong foot at FAC, when I said "potentially interesting", I suppose I meant that the prose detracted from the interest, not that it was uninteresting per se. I see you a re a copy editors' guild member, so you probably didn't take kindly to my comment about a first-language speaker copy edit. Nevertheless, it's much harder to see errors in our own work than in that of others. Every word counts at FAC, and prose must be excellent. I still think that you would benefit from another pair of eyes, preferably from someone who knows their way around FAC and MOS (and I'm not volunteering, I don't consider myself a serious copy editor). As it stands, I've not even listed all the infelicities in the lead section, let alone the rest of the text. It's up to you if you want to try to clean up while its at FAC, or withdraw to work on it elsewhere, but there is a lot to do Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:45, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, peace is declared. I'll leave it to you. If you decide to continue, I'll go through and do a list of what I perceive to be fixable faults, you have a few to be going on with, and as a parting offering, here's another. Pisco Sour isn't a mixture of words, it's one followed by another. "Combination" might be better. I'm signing off for the evening soon,let me know what you decide Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:16, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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OK, I'll put some issues here to avoid cluttering the FAC page too much. Let's start with references.

• your short form references to books are confusing, they are so long that they look like full refs, and have info, like the language, that should be, but isn't, in the cited texts. All you need is something on the lines of Smith & Jones (2012) pp. 234–245.
• Cited texts should have the language parameter. Check that all have an isbn (if the latter exists, there are two 1981 books apparently without). Be consistent whether you include country of publication (New York)
• Check that you format titles of books and articles consistently in terms of capitalisation, you don't have to stick to the original espcially if it's all caps.
• In your refs you have forename-surname and in cited texts the reverse; this is unhelpful. Surname first is standard
• Check that you have put in all the known info, ref 8 is missing its author, Pablo Lacoste
• Don't give retrieval dates for books and journals if they have a physical presence in the real world, only for web-only sources.
• Not obligatory, but think about using WebCite to archive any web only pages in danger of link rot

Section headings. You have "spread and popularity", "appraisal" "popularity". I'd be inclined to change the first to just "spread" or something similar, so you don't have two popularity sections. Also merge the other two as appraisal or whatever, the anecdote doesn't need a section of its own and it's of the same nature as the last section.

Lead.

• The oldest mentions of the Pisco Sour so far found come from... — perhaps neater as The oldest known mentions of the Pisco Sour are from...
• the Pisco Sour holds international attention as a topic of popular culture. — I've never even heard of the drink, and this looks rather sweeping to me. It's obviously significant in the two countries concerned, and for all I know in other Spanish speaking countries/regions, but I doubt that most Parisians, Canadians, Thais or Chinese know more about this drink than me Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:57, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No rush, I'm going to be busy over the weekend anyway Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm very busy this weekend, but I'll go through properly as soon as I get the time next week Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Get informed: throughout the conflict Montevideo and Colonia remained under Brazilian control; Brazil wiped out the United Provinces Navy. And the blockade was quite effective, in front of Buenos Aires. If the Brazilian performance had been so bad, Uruguay would have become part of the United Provinces, which it did not.

Given that the outcome was a draw, the portrayal of the conflict you wanted to give is biased, unless you post other opinions (and there are many) contrary to that of Stowell.

Here is what Sir Richard Gordon said to Lord Ponsonby at that time: "Los recursos de este Imperio parecen inmnensos y creyendo como yo que Brown -grande como es- no puede con sus goletas aniquilar a la armada brasileña, simplemente tendrá Ud. al bloqueo restablecido con mayor vigor"187.36.81.70 (talk) 02:15, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You should study and learnt it then. The quote is clearly wrong. Brazil had the upper hand when it comes to the naval part of the conflict so much so that in the end the United Provinces lacked a proper navy to counter the conflict.

I can post other opinions as I said. The facts of the conflict speak for themselves anyway. Had it been a military victory, Argentina would have annexed Uruguay, which it did not. And it did not because it was suffering the economic consequences of the naval blockade Brazil imposed on Buenos Aires, its main place of interaction with the outside world, and Argentina at that time was heavily dependent on both exporting and importing goods. Brazil did manage to destroy the functionality of the United Provinces Navy, a fact which that opinion he posted is clearly omitting.187.36.81.70 (talk) 11:55, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the quote you so much wanted to post there:

Although far superior to Argentine forces on paper, the Brazilian troops were repeatedly defeated. Plagued by poor leadership, inadequate supplies, corruption, disease, and a high desertion rate, the Brazilian army never gained an advantage over their adversaries.|Daniel Stowell^[1]}}

Daniel Stowell is not a military historian, nor is he specialised in the history of Argentina, Brazil or Uruguay. The quote you claim would have come from this book, "Balancing Evils Judiciously", http://books.google.com.br/books/about/Balancing_Evils_Judiciously.html?id=fQTaGwAACAAJ&redir_esc=y, which is not about the subject at all: "For the first time, all the proslavery -- but also pro-black -- writings of Zephaniah Kingsley (1765-1843) appear together in one volume. Kingsley was a slave trader and the owner of a large plantation near Jacksonville in what was then Spanish East Florida. He married one of his slaves and had children with several others. Daniel Stowell carefully assembles all of Kingsley's writings on race and slavery to illuminate the evolution of his thought. The intriguing hybrid text of the four editions of the treatise clearly identifies both subtle and substantial differences among the editions. Other extensively annotated documents show how Kingsley's interracial family and his experiences in various slaveholding societies in the Caribbean and South America influenced his thinking on race, class, and slavery".

This is clearly not about the topic Cisplatine War at all. He was no expert, and his quote is clearly misleading.

Contrary to what the quote would imply, throughout the conflict:

• The Brazilian Armed Forces blockaded Buenos Aires and caused serious economic consequences to them (Buenos Aires was basically the only place for interaction with the outside world, and the United Provinces were heavily dependent on exporting and importing United Provinces); you can read about these consequences from the Argentine themselves ("Los efectos de la guerra en la economía de las Provincias Unidas", http://www.ucema.edu.ar/ceieg/arg-rree/3/3-029.htm). Brazil lost some naval battles, but after the battle of Monte Santiago their navy was reduced practically to nothing, and they could no longer operate in high seas; Brazil had the naval supremacy right in front of Buenos Aires.

• When it comes to the operations on land, if Rivera penetrated the territory of the Missões, if they won some battles (Sarandi and Ituzaingó), the results were, in fact, inconclusive, since they lacked the means to repel the Brazilian Forces, so much so that the two major cities of Uruguay at that time, Colonia and Montevideo remained under Brazilian control throughout the conflict.

In short, the quote you so much want to post is a biased portrayal of the conflict, a misleading one, not coming from a specialist. And it makes it look like the United Provinces won the conflict, which they did not, if they had Uruguay would have been annexed.187.36.81.70 (talk) 12:24, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He is not an expert on the subject, nor is the book he wrote specifically addressing the conflict. You picked up a quote from someone who is not a military historian, nor a specialist on this conflict, nor in the history of Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay, no matter his profession his opinion is simply wrong and gives a partial and inaccurate view of the conflict.187.36.81.70 (talk) 14:49, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To MarshalN20: it is not about threatening. Due to the complexity of the conflict, one can but expect diverse views on it. An opinion from someone who is NOT an expert on the conflict in question, like Stowell, should not be referenced as some kind of authority at all.

If you want accuracy, why don't you post the pic of Brazilian troops in the Platine War parading in Buenos Aires? There is no controversy that Brazilian troops paraded in Buenos Aires. This is not an opinion, this is a fact. I guess that would be too much for you, wouldn't it? I am here to give a balanced and as neutral as possible view of issues involving Brazil, not to accept that someone will paint inaccurately what happened to my country, ok?187.36.81.70 (talk) 15:29, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]