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I know for sure this is edible because I eat it all the time. Any sources that we can verify this with? --181.209.142.230 (talk) 00:59, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The medicinal use reference that was added is bad because this reference^[1] references back to this wikipedia article (aka circular argument). I replaced this back with a reference needed. (Artiommatvei (talk) 14:50, 7 June 2020 (UTC))[reply]

I can find no reference to the substance matali anywhere. Wikipedia relies on authoritative sources. I have therefore removed this sentence altogether. If anybody can find a source they are welcome to replace it. Darorcilmir (talk) 15:38, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This plant is most commonly known in the English language as "wandering Jew", but someone removed that name from the article because they felt it was a slur. Is this allowed? Do we get to bowdlerize plant names in an encyclopedia because they offend us? By the way, I'm half Jewish and the name doesn't offend me. It'd be a different matter if it was called a "wandering kike" or something. Succubus MacAstaroth (talk) 12:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly support the inclusion of the term in the article for the purpose of explaining what the term means for anyone who comes across it. It is not bigoted to dispassionately and academically include the term in the article, especially not if there is a note about the possible offense it can cause. The reference to the word does not itself propogate hate speech. Whitewashing any mention of words that can cause offensive or that have offensive origins is completely ridiculous, patronizing to those who would be offended since it suggests that they should be protected from even the mere mention of the word, and misleadingly suggestive that the word does not exist. Jamgoodman (talk) 12:11, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. This is a real common name. It has been used in the past, and may still be used for all we know. The Wandering Jew legend is a well-known legend, supported by literature and visual art. Darorcilmir (talk) 12:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Still going on, mostly by IPs. Wandering Jew is still a common name as far as I know, and I fail to see how this is anti-Semitic as claimed. Meters (talk) 05:33, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I added a citation for the name 'wandering jew', and also mentioned 'wandering dude' with a citation, too. I requested some page protection over at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Tradescantia zebrina in the hopes that the offended will stop changing the article. Even if someone thinks the term is anti-semitic, it's still a historical name that is still in use today... broadly. And since Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED, it should remain in the article. If anyone else should attempt to remove the common name 'wandering jew' from the article, their edit should be reverted. And if repeated, we should recommend a sanction for the offender(offended). Platonk (talk) 23:09, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Meters:, @Platonk: On the use of anti-Semitic/anti-semitic, etc. see the 2nd paragraph of the the Usage section of Antisemitism and "A Spelling", the last section of Deborah Lipstadt's What's in a name? An exchange on the meaning, virulence and irrationality of antisemitism <ref>https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-meaning-and-irrationality-of-antisemitism/10896154,/ref> Mcljlm (talk) 00:20, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]