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Around July 2012, a number of edits were made (the latest made clumsily here) to suggest that Tchaikovsky had significant Ukrainian ancestry. This was tidied up by another editor here with the comment "corrected spacing etc., but is the alteration to the text correct?". No one, it seems, ever replied - or at least the text was still here in that form until today. I have now removed it, since its attachment to Holden is clearly specious and no other citation has been offered for this alleged ancestry, which another editor today has been making a deal out of (which is what caught my attention). Please do not reinstate any of this information without such a citation. Alfietucker (talk) 11:40, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it seems that Ukrainian ancestry can be confirmed. For example, see the following paragraph from a book published by Princeton University Press in 1998: "On his father's side, Tchaikovsky's origin may be traced to the Ukrainian village Nikolaevka in the Poltava region. His great-grand-father was an eighteenth-century Ukrainian Cossack named Fedor Chaika.". It would be better to add this sentence as is, plus citation, instead of the previous correction. Gena (talk) 08:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If he has Ukrainian Cossack ancestory then why cannot we put "from ukrainian and French descent? Yes he was mostly Russian, but disregarding that he was Also Ukrainian is false information. The amount of times Russia is mentioned I am this article is ridiculous. Peter Stasiw (talk) 14:50, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"his great Grandfather" was an eighteenth century..." Do you intend to include where the other 7 great grandparents came from, or do they not matter? is it just the Ukrainian nationalism you want to emphasise?

Here is a clarification on Tchaikovsky's grandfathers: Fedir Opanasovych Chaika was his great-grandfather from Kremenchuk, Ukraine. He was in the rank of Ukrainian Cossack's Centurion, participated in Polatava Battle, and died from wounds. His son Peter (composer's grandfather) was born near Poltava, Ukraine and studied medicine at Kiev-Mohyla Academy in Ukraine. He changed his surname to Tchaikovsky. He was drafted by Russian government to participate in Russian-Turkish war, and after serving as a regiment's doctor, became a Mayor Slobodskoj and Glasov Vyatskij Province. Sources: http://library-sumy.com/sumy/people_sumy/connection/chaykovskiy/biography.php http://library.vnmu.edu.ua/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Petro-CHajkovskyj.pdf Considering the fact that Thaikovsky's father's side was from Ukraine, that his output was largely based on Ukrainian subject matter, motifs, and melodies, as well as his long and often visits of Ukraine, it would be only right to list him as "Russian composer of Ukrainian descent". Slavuta33 (talk) 23:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In those years, no one seriously considered Ukrainians apart from the Russian people. Your claims are very stupid. 217.19.216.243 (talk) 10:42, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Change source of repertorie to repertorie ILikeTurtles1234567 (talk) 01:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 05:26, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This entire sub-section was removed here with the edit summary: "Doubtful notability. Half of the section is entirely unreferenced, widely unapropriate secondary source which is a ukrainian nationalist website. Please find an actual scholary source if you intend to reinstall these." Do other editors agree with this appraisal? Could other editors provide any better sources? Some of the material seems to be simple statements of fact which should be able to be easily sourced elsewhere. Without any of this material, there is no other substantive mention of Ukraine in the entire article? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:32, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some history: On 2 January 2017 by User:Slavuta33, then on 4 January 2017 by User:Antandrus. Many books comment on Tchaikovsky's musical connection to Ukraine, or Little Russia (see also Symphony No. 2 (Tchaikovsky), The Storm (Tchaikovsky), Petro Tchaikovsky National Music Academy of Ukraine). I think it would be reasonable to restore that section, plus the one removed by Antandrus in 2017, and request additional citations. BTW, none of this was present in the article when it was promoted to FA on 30 March 2009. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:34, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for that clarification. I tend to agree with you about restoring it. I see that the IP editor concerned has been editing only since 11 April 2019 and geolocates to Russia. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:13, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm ok with restoring it (thank you Michael for reminding me of the history -- I remember now -- needs to be better cited). I'm always leery of things that look like nationalist pushes, e.g. Tchaikovsky was really Ukrainian, as was Stravinsky, only no he was Polish, no American -- but the Ukraine connection with Tchaikovsky is genuine. Antandrus (talk) 13:48, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is it true he even wrote a wholly unbelievable comic opera?? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:34, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

At present the first sentence of the lead is clogged up with six different guides to pronouncing the composer's name. This is not very welcoming to visitors to te page. May I suggest we move most of the variations into a footnote. A comment here seems to me very much to the point. Tim riley talk 23:25, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The English IPA seems unnecessary because there is no uncertaintay or doubt about the pronunciation of "Tchaikovsky". The transliteration of Russian adds nothing, and the Russian pronunciation ought to be placed in a footnote, as suggested. IMO the Cyrillic script of his full name is worthwhile having in the 1st sentence. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:41, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MB, I suggest we leave this thread open for a week and then if nobody has expressed dissenting views I'll do as discussed above (unless you prefer to do it.) Does that seem sensible? Tim riley talk 21:20, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fine with me for you to do it; WP:NORUSH. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:34, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The opening sentence here makes absolutely no sense with all these odd dates it's unlegible and needs to be fixed as per MOS:LEADCLUTTER.--Moxy 🍁 16:07, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regrettably the intro has declined severely in quality since this article was featured.

It is overly long and discursive, while also no longer containing a proper summary of basic details such as the composer's major works and styles or innovations.

The second paragraph in particular is full of dubious, subjective statements, with not a single citation to be seen. For instance, "The principles that governed melody, harmony and other fundamentals of Russian music ran completely counter to those that governed Western European music". This is too vague and smacks of over-exaggeration. Russian music still followed a tonal system, so no, it wasn't "completely counter" to Western melody and harmony. I'm sure it was counter *in some respects*, but which? And it's followed by, "and [this] caused personal antipathies that dented Tchaikovsky's self-confidence". What does "personal antipathies" mean here? Isn't this claim highly subjective? It sounds like original research. What is the evidence? And why is it important enough to be in the lead?

I recommend that the intro is reworked by an expert and the article marked as such. I think a lot of it should be removed, the second paragraph especially, or at least marked as dubious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denziloe (talk • contribs) 02:10, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article does not meet the FA criteria due to being incoherent in places, especially the lead. buidhe 10:05, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]