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I don't believe the revert was done in good faith; the tone of the edit summary suggest that it's more of a case of [[WP:JDL]]. [[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 03:28, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
I don't believe the revert was done in good faith; the tone of the edit summary suggest that it's more of a case of [[WP:JDL]]. [[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 03:28, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
:Of course it was done in good faith, a person's schooling is relevant to their biography. Just look at biographies that are FA. And stop with the wikilawyering and pointy behaviour, I've been dealing with similar behaviour for years, it doesn't impress me. [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 03:31, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
:Of course it was done in good faith, a person's schooling is relevant to their biography. Just look at biographies that are FA. And stop with the wikilawyering and pointy behaviour, I've been dealing with similar behaviour for years, it doesn't impress me. [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 03:31, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

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Elementary school, too? Separately, please see [[WP:BURDEN]]:
<blockquote>All content must be verifiable. The '''burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material''', and is satisfied by providing a citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.</blockquote>

[[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 03:39, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
:Yet more wikilawyering and pointy behaviour. Being able to point at an essay or even a guideline doesn't make you a contributor to WP. People get around to improving articles as they feel like it, everyone here is a volunteer. I'm interested in Kubler (for his war crimes and Yugoslav connection, as identified above), yet the main biographical sources appear to be in German, which I am not very fluent in. No doubt there will be some information in Serbo-Croat, which I am also not very fluent in. So when I get access to the sources and feel like doing some translating, I'll probably get to it. There's no rush, and I won't have my editing priorities determined by someone who doesn't appear to have any interest in adding to the knowledge WP represents. You have no evidence that anything in this article is false, so what is your motive for removing it? You obviously have no interest in building the encyclopedia, you are just deleting information that was probably put in the article in good faith many years ago by someone who didn't know how to cite, or couldn't be bothered to. Where is your good faith? [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 03:50, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

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Recent revert

Was this tag perhaps missed by the reverting editor?

I believe "en WP does biographical articles" based on WP:RS, no?

K.e.coffman (talk) 02:31, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't miss it. Tagging articles is one thing. Wholesale deletion of information is another. Do you have any evidence whatsoever that the information is incorrect? You have displayed a pattern of removing all pre-war biographical information from a number of articles. That is what I am referring to. Biographical articles should include information about the whole of the life of the subject, not just (in the case of military biographies), their military service. There is a German-language biographical book about this chap held by the German National Library, and biographical information about his military career also available online here. I found them within five or six clicks. You have apparently no interest in adding to Wikipedia, only in pushing your own agenda, which is apparently reductionism of Nazi Germany-related articles to the point of absurdity, and deletionism. This man was a war criminal executed by Yugoslavia (which is my interest in him), but there was more to his life than that, he also played a significant role in the development of mountain troops in the German Army, and commanded an army corps and an army. Descriptions of those parts of his life and his upbringing are all part of what should be in this article. You claim to be offended by my statement that you are on a "campaign", but your actions speak a lot louder than your words. Have you even tried to locate reliable sources for this article? Obviously not, or you would have found some. Your agenda is something entirely different, and I don't think you are here to build the encyclopedia. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:03, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If the subject is so important, why have not the the article been improved in 4 years? The article has been tagged in 2012; so someone also took issue with the article.

The link that was provided includes the following:

  • 26/10/1908 cadet corporal,
  • 10/23/1910 Lieutenant,
  • 21.09.1914 regimental adjutant at the 15th Bavarian Infantry Regiment,
  • 09/07/1915 lieutenant,
  • 08/18/1918 Captain,
  • 1/8/1928 Major,

Etc.

How does this amount to "significant coverage in independent reliable source", or tells us anything interesting about the subject's career? What is the encyclopedic reason to include uncited information such as "In 1895 he enrolled in elementary school in Forstenried which he left after three years, he then attended the Gymnasium..."?

I don't believe the revert was done in good faith; the tone of the edit summary suggest that it's more of a case of WP:JDL. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:28, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it was done in good faith, a person's schooling is relevant to their biography. Just look at biographies that are FA. And stop with the wikilawyering and pointy behaviour, I've been dealing with similar behaviour for years, it doesn't impress me. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:31, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Elementary school, too? Separately, please see WP:BURDEN:

All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and is satisfied by providing a citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.

K.e.coffman (talk) 03:39, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yet more wikilawyering and pointy behaviour. Being able to point at an essay or even a guideline doesn't make you a contributor to WP. People get around to improving articles as they feel like it, everyone here is a volunteer. I'm interested in Kubler (for his war crimes and Yugoslav connection, as identified above), yet the main biographical sources appear to be in German, which I am not very fluent in. No doubt there will be some information in Serbo-Croat, which I am also not very fluent in. So when I get access to the sources and feel like doing some translating, I'll probably get to it. There's no rush, and I won't have my editing priorities determined by someone who doesn't appear to have any interest in adding to the knowledge WP represents. You have no evidence that anything in this article is false, so what is your motive for removing it? You obviously have no interest in building the encyclopedia, you are just deleting information that was probably put in the article in good faith many years ago by someone who didn't know how to cite, or couldn't be bothered to. Where is your good faith? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:50, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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