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Hi all, I'm just dropping this message on all of the WikiProjects associated with The Mary Wallopers. An IP editor has been repeatedly adding a line to the article describing their musical style as Anglophobia. I have been repeatedly removing these inclusions as I do not believe the source a) is reliable enough or b) discusses the supposed Anglophobia in sufficient detail to warrant its inclusion.

There is an active Talk Page discussion which both myself and the IP editor have commented on today. I would value your input either way on this discussion as I really just want to stop edit warring with this other user. Thanks. Xx78900 (talk) 23:40, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You’re being a bit oversensitive and maybe ignoring the power dynamics here. There is no suggestion that a folk group can deny anyone their human rights. The context of Irish/English relations renders the Anglophobia of the latter an acceptable response to repression. That Irish people dislike (on the whole - clearly there will be the odd exception) England and the English is hardly unsurprising or news. As I say the band themselves would probably be quite proud of being described as such. 2A00:23C6:7682:F101:60DD:32D8:C9B0:C1E5 (talk) 16:28, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Three debates have begun, two at Talk:Church of Ireland (founder and LQBTQ+ issues) and one at Talk:Catholic Church in Ireland (CC or RCC). Not new, especially #1 and #3, but some life in the discussion, I see. Input / perspective welcome. SeoR (talk) 14:46, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear WikiProject Ireland editors, I came across this generated map of Femicides occurring in Ireland between 1922 - 2022 (with References) in one of my nightly Reddit doomscrolls. I thought it may be of use or interest to your project or someone within your network. I also suggested to the original poster to consider using Wikidata or even a Wikibase instance to map and enrich their current data. Link to Google Map and Reddit Original post. I hope it is useful to you. Kind regards, Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 14:34, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Danny, thank you for sharing, that is really interesting. I wonder do you have any ideas of what we could do with this list. Perhaps an online editing event, or information session?

Kind regards,

Sophie

Project and Communications Manager

Wikimedia Community Ireland Cailínréalta (talk) 11:25, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a compelling dataset alright. Depressing though. In terms of "what (if anything) to do with it":

• "now", it (the map viewer link rather than the reddit post link) would appear to meet WP:ELYES for inclusion on List of major crimes in Ireland. And I'd support its inclusion as an external link there. As is.
• "longer term", and assuming there are no WP:UGC issues, it could be used/linked from a more specific article. I note that, in order, there is convention for articles on Gender inequality by country (some having "violence/crime" sub-sections. EG: Gender inequality in Bolivia#Crime against women). And, where such a section would be too large, there is convention for articles on Violence against women by country (some having "murder/femicide" sections. EG Violence against women in the United States#Types of violence). And, where such a section would be too large, there is convention for articles on Femicide by country. If a related article is created, it may make sense to start "higher" in this order. Working down.
• "enriching map data with wikidata", the articles/data in the related Category:Violence against women in Ireland may be of relevance.

Thanks for sharing. Guliolopez (talk) 12:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for those helpful suggestions. If any Wikipedians would like to get involved with working on this I am interested in setting up a project/ editathon so please get in touch! Cailínréalta (talk) 12:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have replaced the content of the newly-created Resignation of Leo Varadkar article with a redirect to the existing Leo Varadkar article because the subject does not justify a standalone article since it can be dealt with thoroughly in the existing Leo Varadkar article.

Should the newly-created 2024 Fine Gael leadership election article be similarly redirected to the existing Fine Gael article, for the same reason? (Pinging @Spleodrach: in particular.) Spideog (talk) 17:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. My 2x cents:

1. Resignation. I cannot fathom why his resignation would require a standalone article. I agree with the redirection. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:LASTING apply. (And, unless some LASTING impact or ground-breaking issues arise, I cannot see how this will be anything other than a redirect.)
2. Leadership election. Also do not see why, given that nothing has happened yet (and any "article" here would be a placeholder/scaffolding containing only speculation) I also agree with this redirection. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:TOOSOON apply. (And, once something has actually happened and there is coverage to support more than a skeleton, the redirect can be removed.)

Sometimes I think we forget to take a breath on these things. Bye. Guliolopez (talk) 20:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, my 2¢:

1. The Resignation article should be a redirect, I created the section in the main article expecting it to be expanded, not a separate article created.
2. The 2024 Fine Gael leadership election can be left alone. This is needed. All other FG leadership contests have an article and so will the 2024 contest. It also has to be kept up-to-date. Disagree that nothing has happened yet, as I am writing, Simon Coveney has already ruled himself out of the contest, info which needs to be added to the article, as he was the runner up last time. Also, the other candidates will be declaring there intentions tomorrow. Also, the new FG leader will be in place by 6 April 2024, just over 2 weeks away, so we do have a deadline! I say keep and expand this article. Spleodrach (talk) 20:53, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fully agree that a resignation does not require an article, now or at all. I would not have articles for leadership races either, but there is precedent, so OK. SeoR (talk) 21:01, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree very much with both of these comments from Spleodrach. There can be a rush sometimes to create new articles because of a similar article elsewhere on the project; there’s certainly no need for a resignation article. But we can also forget the extent to which Wikipedia is used as a resource for up to date information. So even as WP:NOTNEWS stands, in practice we should be up to date, and provide this referenced coverage of the leadership contest, however brief it ends up being. We don’t need a link to every tweet with an endorsement, but general updates are useful. While I have limited capacity over the coming two weeks for this, I commend all work to date on it, and will contribute to the extent I can. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 12:28, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Iarnród Éireann#Requested move 16 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. JuniperChill (talk) 11:48, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The page History of Fine Gael is in need of considerable review. The problems range from a complete lack of references in the earlier part, to excessive detail on recent events copied (without attribution!) from Government of the 33rd Dáil and Leo Varadkar. I’ll do my bit to look at it, but the more input from the community, the better! Iveagh Gardens (talk) 11:50, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Black Irish (folklore)#Requested move 19 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:41, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Charles Trevelyan, 1st Baronet has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Edmund Patrick – confer 08:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My read of WP:NCCAPS is that we should not capitalise the word government in phrases such as "Leo Varadkar formed the 33rd government of Ireland". On this basis, I've moved the two pages currently titled in this manner to 23rd government of Ireland and 24th government of Ireland. That said, though I favour the lowercase format, if there's a consensus that the term Government in "33rd Government of Ireland" is a proper noun, and that it therefore falls under the exception to the naming convention, I'm happy to reverse the changes made thus far. So before deploying WP:AWB for all remaining relevant pages, I'm going to wait to see if there's any comment on these thus far. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 17:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Ireland women's cricket team record by opponent for featured list. I think, it is one of the topics of interest of this wikiproject. Please join the discussion on whether this article should be promoted or not. Thanks. Robo^Cric Let's chat 18:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]