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A number of the labels have the optional pluralised "(s)" on the end. It's fairly common practice for these kinds of labels not to be pluralised, leaving the singular form of the label to be applicable if there are multiple entries in the field. Singular should be the default, unless the field would always result in multiple entries, and then the plural form should be used. Labels in question: Creative director(s); Composer(s); Original language(s); Executive producer(s); Producer(s); Editor(s); Location(s); Production company(s). I propose we take all of these back to singular. Any objections? --Rob Sinden (talk) 16:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone please add a "Based on" field to this infobox, perhaps after the "Created by" field? Many television series are based on existing series, films, novels, comics, and so on. For example, the editors of the Sherlock (TV series) article have resorted to a [makeshift solution] with a bolded note about Arthur Conan Doyle's source material shoehorned into the field intended for the names of the creators, and the editors of Hannibal (TV series) have inaccurately [given] Thomas Harris creator credit for the TV show, with parentheses explaining the nature of his involvement.

I think that it would be much neater, more informative and more straightforward to add a field specifically for the source material and its author; this would have the added benefit of being consistent with Template:Infobox film, which already has exactly the feature I'm proposing. —Flax5 19:26, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I second this, was actually about to ask the exact same thing before finding it already posted. Many TV series (True Blood, Hannibal, Elementary, The Vampire Diaries, Pretty Little Liars, Game of Thrones, Haven to name a few off the top of my head) are based on novels or pre-existing materials and right now there is no good way of acknowledging them. I think a based on template should be added. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 10:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's been nearly three months, can we get a decision on this? —Flax5 22:07, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Thanks for the suggestion - I've implemented it. For the future, note that you'll usually get a quicker response if you add your suggested template code to the sandbox. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:53, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tip. —Flax5 14:44, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm hoping to get some clarification and edification about the use of the fundamentally-flawed "last_aired" field in infoboxes, because its use/misuse is driving me a little nutty. I know there has been debate over this before, (Archive 4 and 5) but I'm not certain what the official position is, and I'm desperately trying to avoid reading the textwalls of rage. As editor Barsoomian pointed out here, shows just end. This appears to be the case with networks such as Nickelodeon, who, unlike NBC, don't typically pen press releases proclaiming "This show is canceled." To make matters worse, since Nickelodeon doesn't seem to really have "seasons", and they tend to trickle new episodes over months or even years (ex: Fanboy & Chum Chum and Robot and Monster), it becomes even more difficult to point at these shows and say, "definitely cancelled". Compounding the frustration, are the legions of children on both sides of the fence who eagerly add last_air dates to shows they hate, only to be reverted by the kids who still have hope the show will continue to air. Can it be appropriately assumed that if a pickup is not announced at the following year's "Upfront", that the show has been cancelled? And more importantly, should the "last_aired" field be used to indicate the last date a new episode was aired, rather than an "end date" for the series? I feel like a goon every time I revert a "last_aired" submission for shows that demonstrate little indication of returning. Thank you for helping me work through this tough time in my life.  :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:52, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I feel the explanation for the location parameter should be edited slightly, by simply removing the part that says "Leave blank if same as country of origin above." This is rarely ever followed (rightly so), so it'd be nice to just see that sentence eliminated. Strictly speaking of American-produced TV, 95% of the time, a show will be shot in the U.S., obviously. Just because an American show is shot in America, doesn't make it's actual shooting location not important. It's important and notable that say, Breaking Bad shoots in New Mexico, or Homeland shoots in North Carolina, and The Walking Dead shoots in Georgia. The only time using the location parameter is unnecessary if it's for like a sitcom that shoots on sets in a warehouse in Los Angeles. Anyway, I just feel that part is dated and rarely followed, thus, should be updated. Thanks. Drovethrughosts (talk) 20:26, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would have to disagree that this guideline "is rarely ever followed". The only person I have ever seen reverting the guideline is you. As you suggest, 95% of US shows are filmed in the US. Shooting in numerous states the US has become more common, with production companies choosing to go where it will be cheapest (i.e. incentives). Is it that notable that a show is not filmed in California that it needs to be mentioned in the infobox? Not really. There is plenty of room in the production section to discuss the exact location(s). This isn't the 1950s, when most shows were shot on an LA soundstage. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 00:05, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]