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In the list of highest gross indian film by the year (2007), it was stated that the movie name is shivaji but if is actually sivaji: the boss. Secondly, please change the highest grossing Tamil film of sivaji: the boss gross as 155cr, as it was in the 'list of highest grossing film by the year'. Thank you. Nito Nithish (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sivaji (film) is the name of the article, and the "The Boss" doesn't appear in the article prose. If you think this is an erroneous title, you should probably bring that up at Talk:Sivaji (film) and see what other editors think. My suspicion is that the editors felt that most of the reliable sources were describing the film plainly as Sivaji. As for the second part of your request, you'd need to provide a reference to support the 155 crore claim. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:26, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-first-weekend-box-office-collection-rajamouli-film-breaks-lifetime-worldwide-records-639066

The above source is enough to prove that, the world wide collection of the Tamil movie sivaji is 155 crores and not 148 crores. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.246.82.246 (talk) 09:59, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm not mistaken, IBT attributes the number to Andhra Box Office, a blog. Please see WP:UGC. The figure and have to be independently verified. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. You made a mistake. Just go through the blog. Only that specific paragraph was stated by that blog. The remaining are as per reports, as you can see that in the following paragraph. You can click on the 'Andhra box Office', if you want that clarification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.251.237.42 (talk) 14:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The source says "as per the reports", which would be interpreted as Andhra's report. And even if it weren't, what then is the source of the mysterious "reports", and why would we assume that IBT has independently verified the figures as opposed to just republishing them, which is what it sounds like? Also, see this, which is from the same date as the IBT article, 13 July 2015. It's clear that's where IBT was getting the info. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:42, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Raees Beats Jab Tak Hai Jaan & Ae Dil Hai Mushkil’s Lifetime Record | Worldwide Biz reference www.koimoi.com 3 rd February 2017 V99991111 (talk) 03:25, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@V99991111: -  Not done - Please stop posting requests without providing reliable sources. Koimoi is not considered a reliable source per WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:39, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

‘Raees’ worldwide box-office collection: Shah Rukh Khan’s film powers past 250-crore mark reference:m.timesofindia.com V99991111 (talk) 12:13, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

V99991111 -  Not done - No reference provided. Please stop submitting unsourced edit requests. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:53, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please update raees worldwide collection Rs 259.42 crore Raees worldwide box-office collection: Shah Rukh Khan’s film powers past 250-crore mark reference:m.timesofindia.com V99991111 (talk) 12:33, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

V99991111 -  Not done - No reference provided. Please stop submitting unsourced edit requests. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:53, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The box office source of the Telugu film 'Attarintiki Daredi' seem to be wrong. Please have a look at the below source. The actual gross figure is 131 crores and not 187 crores. Maybe a clarification has to be arranged from both the sources. http://www.ibtimes.co.in/janatha-garage-box-office-collection-will-jr-ntrs-film-beat-sarrainodu-srimanthudu-693653 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.251.237.42 (talk) 14:54, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You say that the "actual" gross is 131 and not 187, but how do we know what the "actual" gross is if they're both estimates? I've presented the info in the form of a range here. The problem with these idiotic lists is that Wikipedia is basically deciding what films are in the various spots, based on individually sourced gross figures, instead of using a singular authority that all the other trades agree to. For instance Box Office Mojo is widely considered a central authority, and if they had a "Top 10 Telugu films" list, that would be ideal. But all we have is this inefficient system of comparing IBT estimates to Business Standard to Box Office India... Anyway, Attarintiki Daredi had been in the #3 spot, but because of the wide disparity between the sources, I've moved it back down to the #7 position. It's somewhat arbitrary since none of us know for sure, but it also doesn't make sense to keep the film at the top of the list if the high figure is disputed. We did something similar with Kabali. That film's gross was disputed and it seemed ridiculous to place it in the #3 spot if other estimates place it around the #13 spot. All we know for certain is that the lower figure was achieved. I don't know what a good long-term solution for this nonsense is. Thanks Indian film industry... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All the Tamil and Telugu movie gross figures are exaggerated ones. It is a vicious circle. IBT initially comes up with some fake numbers first. This will be updated in Wikipedia. Wikipedia acts as a source for some standard Indian newspapers. Wikipedia numbers will be published in those newspapers. Again these are made as source for Wikipedia. Similarly, Tamil people try to exaggerate Tamil gross figures and degrade Telugu gross figures and vice versa as these two industries are equal in size. The gross figures dispute of Shivaji and Attarintiki Daredi shows it clearly. People are trying to exaggerate the gross figures of Shivaji and downgrade the gross figures of Attarintiki Daredi. If Wikipedia is taking the blog boxofficeindia.com as source for Hindi movies, why can't it take the blogs tamilboxoffice1.com and andhraboxoffice.com for Tamil and Telugu movies. These two blogs are almost giving the exact figures. Many Indian newspapers follow their numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.49.82.179 (talk) 13:16, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say that only when readers start writing to the newspapers and telling them to stop with the crap, will any of this change. Newspapers shouldn't be using Wikipedia as a reference. That's just stupid. Even Wikipedia doesn't consider itself a reliable source. I don't think that the Indian cinema task force at Wikipedia considers Box Office India a blog, but you'd have to ask them (whoever still remains) what the rationale for that is. The objections I've heard for Andhra, is that it's only run by one person, I don't even know if it's clear who that person is. But the most important aspect is that a source have an established reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. I don't know that Andhra has that, and I don't know that Tamilboxoffice1.com does (I've never even heard of this site). For Indian cinema, I'm not convinced that simply because one of the major trades looks to these sites for data that this makes the data inherently reliable. I'm sure there's a pressure for IBT and TOI to report something, so they just regurgitate what sites like Andhra Box Office prints. I've even seen them use data from Onlookersmedia.in, even though that's a blog run by amateurs. Another example would be the insane clamor for clicks that was created when Kabali was out. Sites reporting 677-700 crore "gross" figures, which were obviously inflated. Some of this was coming out of typically reliable sources like Express Group (Financial Express/Indian Express) but it was clear that these figures were being manipulated by the Kabali marketing teams and included pre-release income, etc. It's a big mess, and only a public outcry will help. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The latest credible source of the Tamil film 'Thuppakki' is added below for reference purpose. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/Vijays-Thuppakki-makes-180-crore/articleshow/18691254.cms Clarification to be made if any other credible contradicting source available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.251.237.42 (talk) 15:10, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - I believe why this has not been done in the past is because the figures are attributed to Eros, who distributed the Hindi version. That would make them a primary source. We don't use primary sources for controversial data, as someone with a financial interest in the film (producer/director/actor/distributor/etc.) would have every reason to exaggerate financial data. Also, keep in mind, all financial figures are estimates, so higher doesn't always equate to "more accurate". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:29, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am requesting to add top 15 in the hindi, tamil and telugu languages as they are the top 3 Grossers. The reason for this is, this year 2017, we might have more blockbuster movies getting in the list and pushing other industrial hit movies away. And this top 1p system is old ad many new movies are entering. Thank you. I am excited to see the top 15 for hindi, tamil and telugu movies. Nito Nithish (talk) 16:24, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Nito Nithish: I don't understand the rationale for the change you are proposing. It seems completely arbitrary. The whole point of a Top NN list is to focus on the most noteworthy highest-grossing films and yeah, a side-effect is that films get pushed off the list. So what? That's the nature of the beast. Typical lists of this sort include 10 examples. It's already an arbitrary figure, but you're proposing we arbitrarily change the arbitrary figure to 15. Why? So that films that used to be in the Top 10 still get attention? Are we somehow nostalgic for the film that used to be in the #10 spot but now ranks #11? Doesn't make sense to me. It also doesn't make sense that your proposal doesn't include expanding all the lists. Anyway, I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before and consensus preferred 10 examples. You can check the discussion archives if you wish. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:50, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What is the criteria for being considered an Indian movie. Does Kung Fu Yoga, which is considered an Indo-Chinese joint venture count as Indian enough based on the criteria? Jupitus Smart 07:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see why it shouldn't be added, and I hope that members of WP:ICTF weigh in here, but I know what the various objections will be from casual readers/editors: They'll want to put it into its own category, like "Indian co-productions", because no doubt, if a Kannada-Indian/US film pulled off a major hit like an Iron Man co-production, Non-Kannadiga would flip out. "It's not representative of the Kannada film industry! Kannada industry is not bigger than Tamil!" and so forth. In contradiction, editors will demand that there is a column that identifies in some way the ethnic industry that gets "credit" for the film. (The precedent for this was surrounding Baahubali, when people were flipping out that Telugu should get due "credit", and shame on Tamils for trying to take "credit", when the film was listed as "Telugu, Tamil".) Please note that I don't have any preference, I'm just predicting what the standard arguments will be about. I'd prefer if other members figured this out, but I may interject my opinion periodically. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for airing your opinion, Cyphoidbomb. Kung Fu Yoga has made already made around twice the highest grossing Indian movie, meaning once added it will stay their for posterity. So adding that without a general consensus is not something that I intend to do. Anyway all I want is a mechanism to sort out any problems arising from such borderline cases in the future. And if anybody at WP:ICTF has already evolved a mechanism to clarify what comes under Indian Cinema, please do tell.Jupitus Smart 04:14, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There should be another section for Indian co-production.--2405:204:D10E:DF94:FCAE:701F:D83B:20F1 (talk) 09:26, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Update the worldwide gross of Raees 2017 i.e INR 304 crore </ref>^[1] V99991111 (talk) 03:11, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@V99991111: If you're going to request an update, but then make it yourself, please remove your edit request provided nobody has responded to it yet.. Also, your edit broke the page as you can tell if you scroll down. You removed the closing formatting (|}) for the table you altered. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:57, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These were the fixes your edit required. If you're not up to speed on how to make changes to tables, maybe avoiding such changes is a good idea. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:01, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Siva Ness (talk) 13:43, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

3] Rank Movie Year Director Production House Worldwide Collection Ref

   1	Baahubali: The Beginning	2015	S. S. Rajamouli	Arka Media Works	₹650 crore (US$97 million) #+	[2]
   2	Kabali	2016	Pa. Ranjith	V Creations	₹350 crore (US$52 million)	[3][note 1]
   3	Enthiran	2010	S. Shankar	Sun Pictures	₹289 crore (US$43 million)	[2]
   4	I	2015	S. Shankar	Aascar Films Pvt.Ltd	₹240 crore (US$36 million)	[9]
   5	Vishwaroopam	2013	Kamal Haasan	Raaj Kamal Films International	₹220 crore (US$33 million) #+	[10]
   6	Dasavathaaram	2008	K. S. Ravikumar	Aascar Films Pvt.Ltd	₹200 crore (US$30 million)	[11][12]
   7	Theri	2016	Atlee	V. Creations	₹156.23 crore (US$23 million)	[13]
   8	Lingaa	2014	K. S. Ravikumar	Eros International	₹154 crore (US$23 million)	[14]
   9	Sivaji	2007	S. Shankar	AVM Productions	₹148 crore (US$22 million)	[15]
   10	Veeram	2014	Siva	Vijaya Productions	₹130 crore (US$19 million)	[16]

4] http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/Vijays-Thuppakki-makes-180-crore/articleshow/18691254.cms

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 13:54, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1. Sivaji the boss collection in the top grossing Tamil movie is 148 crores but in list of highest grossing film by the year, it states that sivaji the boss gross is 155 crores. Please state the accurate one.

2. Dangal gross in top grossing indian movie is 741 crores but in top grossing hindi movies , it states that dangal gross is 721 crores. Please state the accurate one. Nito Nithish (talk) 16:15, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]