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August 2015[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would ask that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. McSly (talk) 02:09, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

If someone accuse me of "working for Putin", naturally I must give some response. If that statement NOW isn't to be read anylonger, the user must have erased the stupid accusation somehow. I beg You to please understand this. The user has an alias like BilCar (or some similar signature) wrote that first. I may be 50 years old but not senile. I was a personal as well as unnecessary comment. I'm very familiar with not getting personal. All the best Boeing720 (talk) 02:46, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Here I found it. Copied from the talk-page at F-35

"It's speculative rumor at best, and propaganda at worst. No independent confirmation of the content - a reprint in a Swedish newspaper doe prove the story is true. And we can't claim the US and NATO are worried about the "weapon" re: the F-35 when they haven't said any such thing. And I'd delete the Borisoglebsk 2 article too. We don't work for Putin. - BilCat (talk) 22:12, 19 August 2015 (UTC)"

As a contributer am I in his context included in the word "we" - And I find "We don't work for Putin" to be a personal comment , especially given his general tone. Boeing720 (talk) 03:39, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

• There's no reason for you to think the "We don't work for Putin" comment is directed only at you. I take it as a general comment referring to Wikipedia or the group of editors discussing on the talk page. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Given BilCats general tone towards me, it appeared as he ment me. Do You think there was a reason to alert any other at the F-15 talk page, to not wor for Putin ?. Thanks. Boeing720 (talk) 04:37, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello Boeing720, I agree with Fnlayson, you are reading too much into this. BilCat was just reminding everyone that we should stay neutral. Just assume good faith from other editors and move on. Cheers --McSly (talk) 16:43, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

You may both be correct, however my response was affected by that comment, at the time. A bit hasty presumably. But even assumed the comment was ment also to other users, I still find it was atleast unnecessary and uncalled for. Suggest anyone is working for Putin (or Obama, Merkel, Cameron, Hollande or any other "world leader") isn't quite the optimal comment to make, if wanting to be taken seriously. But I will bear Your two comments in mind in the future. Thanks ! Boeing720 (talk) 21:04, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Trump - disappeared[edit]

This was my reply to User:Vesuvius Dogg, whose message disappeared. But as I've spend half an hour on my reply (and more for a suggestion) I restore the disappered meassage

To answer your question, Donald Trump caters to a voting demographic that feels economically and politically disempowered. He has a wide lead among people lacking a college education — people who feel their jobs and economic well-bring falling behind — and these are the people who feel "laughed at" in the USA. Add to that mix the fact that Trump, the narcissistic bully that he is, HAS had a lot of people mock him over the years, and he is the type to reflexively lash out at them. In his speeches, Trump relentlessly trumpets the idea that China is winning over us (in the late 1980s, he said it was Japan) and Mexico is "dumping" its worst people on us, sending them across the border. This idea does have popular appeal with the demographic I mentioned, whether it is true or not. Of course the world is not laughing at the US or its leaders, but in Trump's telling, it is, and Trump saying it over and over again is enough to make some people believe it's true. Saved here by Vesuvius Dogg. 00:10, 19 September 2015

My reply (as I find American politics interesting, but the Presidential campaign usually begin in january, doesn't it ?)

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You're saying his comment wasn't his idea of foregin politics, I presume (please correct me IF I have interpreted your answer wrongly. But it makes better sence. I just happened to watch "Fallon" (not "Fall on") at a danish channel when zapping. Thansk for your reply. Is it likely the final candidates will be Hillary Clinton vs Donald Trump ? But hasn't this campaign started very early. Usually the coverage of the upcoming US Presedential election, here in Scandinavia, begins with the primary elections in january. Has Trump started earlier on his own ? (And then atleast all other republican candidates simply have been forced to stand up against Trump (?))

He appear to share some, or even several, similarities with Italian Berlusconi. But is it really possible in a country like the US to simply buy the Precedency without any previous political experiences ?

I would also suggest (just an idea, but a fair one, I believe). In the Presidential election all states must split their electoral "seats" according to the outcome of the election. It isn't quite fair that all electoral votes goes to the winner in the state. Let the winner of a state gain ONE extra electoral vote extra, and split the rest of the electoral votes according to the outcome of the election. Let's say in State X, 10 million people has voted. The result is 4.950.000 for Party A and 4.950.200 for Party B , and other Parties and independant candidates recieves a total of 99.800 votes. If this state has 25 electoral votes, the winner recieves ONE electoral vote, while all others are distributed accordning to the percetage of votes (But atleat for instance 5% of all votes are requiered to share electoral votes). In this case Party/Candidate B gets 13 electoral votes and Party/Candidate A 12. If the State X just had 24 electoral votes (= EV), Party/Candidate B still gain the first electoral vote. Then the 23 other EVs are distributed as 12 for Party /Candidate B and 11 for Party/Candidate A. A total of 13 - 11, one EV for winning the state and 12-11 when shareing the remaining 23 electoral votes. There will then still be a point of winning a state, but a close call win doesn't give all EV's to the winner, which I believe to be fair. A few states already splits their EV's. But I would like it to be American law. I hope I haven't offended any American feelings by this suggestion. Cheers Boeing720 (talk) 11:36, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

I don't mind replying, but I got into a "clean up mode" this morning (archiving my Talk page) and had second thoughts about WP:NOTAFORUM, in particular, offering opinions on Donald Trump, whose page I've considerably edited. In short, he IS much like Berlusconi, though that comparison isn't often made over here (because Berlusconi isn't well-known), a charismatic, self-promoting businessman of some dubious morality, with a penchant for dating young women (always models). Trump has very high name recognition thanks to his decade as a reality show host. Unlike Berlusconi, however, Trump is yet to have any real success in politics, except as an agitator, self-promoter and sideshow. You don't have an Italian system here that is fragmented and gameable, and Trump is essentially an outsider to the Republican political machine, with no on-the-ground campaign staff and support. I doubt he will obtain the Republican nomination even if he is leading the (highly selective) polls right now: but I could be wrong, because most people thought he would have burned out his novelty at this point. It is quite early in the election cycle, and Trump's name is out there mainly because he is the most entertaining (and covered) political phenomenon and sucks all the air out of a huge and rather dull field of 16 rival contenders.

All that said, it is shocking to me that someone with his lawsuit, bankruptcy, and Mafia history, and his patently shallow and narcissistic worldviews, could get so far ahead in polling. Very disturbing. He has a lot in common with Le Pen, and shares with Le Pen an ability to connect with audiences and to signal a kind of victimization. I speak both fluent French and English and can honestly tell you Le Pen is a more elegant and polished speaker. What's interesting about Trump is his brusque edges, which connect him to a working class audience, even if he himself came from a very wealthy background.

Every four years, Americans complain about the all-or-nothing state-by-state electoral college vote system, which is enshrined in the Constitution. It does mean that candidates travel and, unfortunately, devote much of their time to the so-called "battleground" states which teeter one way or the other. It isn't going to change, it's what we have: it could only be changed by a Constitutional amendment, passed first by 2/3rds of individual state legislatures, all of which (quite frankly) find benefit it the status quo, because it alternatively benefits Democrats and Republicans. An unfair system, but a very entrenched one! Criticizing the Electoral College system, however, is as American as apple pie. So no offense taken... Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 12:26, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank You ! This detailed answer helped me quite a lot. From Scandinavian perspective (I've got access to Swedish and Danish TV-channels, as well as some pure news-channels like France 24 in English) - normally the coverage of the American Presidential Election begins with the new year. In January, together with the first primary elections (typically in the smallest states like New Hampshire). But this time has the election coverage already began, and then am I not talking about American TV-shows like "To Night with Fallon"

But has this election campaign began earlier than usual ? And is that due to Donald Trump's decition to become the Republican candidate ?

I appriciate all general differencies between (especially southern) Italy and America. Berlusconi comes from the north, but appear to have lots in common with the former mafia-corrupted top-politicans like "socialist" Bettino Craxi and "Cristian-democrat" Giulio Andreotti. When Berlusconi was elected the fist time, was the Italian anti-mafia and anti-corruption forces within the Carabinieri and Police essentially were about to win the mafia-war on Sicily (known as "la cosa nostra", "our sake"). But as Berlusconi had prosecutors "on his heels", he proclaimbed them as idiots who do nothing good for Italy (something like that), and soon the Sicilian mafia re-appeared. The similarity with mr Trump lies in the money (and "media-moguls", although I doubt mr Trump reaches Berlosconi's level there. This was what I ment by my comparing, I know very little about mr Trump, but I doubt if he is in league with mafia in the US. Though advertise oneself to the Presidency, without ever been involved in politics before, scares me (it just does) - even though he must have some kind of semi-high IQ.

But what I've seen and heared so far, he is just saying he will "fix everything" without explaining how. Regarding the vote system, this was just a thought. (I'm not even aware of the Swedish one) - but in general, gluing a society to 250 old laws, therein lies a danger that sooner or later will be revealed, I fear. But as you say, amendments makes the system flexible. And it's not for me to complain about either. I mostly worried about next administration's foregin politics and policy. And then especially towards Russia. As I see it, Russia constitutes no threat what so ever to the world outside the former borders of the Soviet Union (excluding the in 1945 gained but now lost Baltic states, and that loss is accepted. In Latvia is though 1/3 of the population Russians). Even i Russia isn't a full democracy, has the country risen after more than 75 years of communism followed by 9 years of "Jeltsinism". For Russia has mr Putin been good. And Ukranians who believe that by joining the EU, everything will be so much better - I say, just have a look at Greece. They have been in the union since 1981, but recieved not the requiered help. Ukraine have a five times lager population ! And I frankly believe Putin when he accuses NATO for forcing Russia up in a corner. Just compare maps of NATO-size in Europe by 1991 and today. And for what reason ?

Crimea was Russian until Khustjov gave it to Ukraine in 1954. And although the referendum went ahead very fast, has there not been cheet-accusations. And 90% is a stong signal indeed. So I hope next American administration will restore good relations with Russia. The sanctions only harmes for instance Finland (which had 50%+ export to Russia) and Germany (who has build a long pipeline for natural gas under the Baltic Sea, which will replace all nuclear power plants in Germany) I presume You mean Jean Marie Le Pen, who thinks "the Holocaust was just a DETAIL in history". But he is now expelled from his own creation, Front National, by his own daughter ! There is simply no space for real racism and antisemitism in Europe. Though a certain Anti-islamism (not caused by how muslims looks like) appear to grow. Given the deeds of Islamic State and people who fist has been given asylum (for instance in Sweden) then joins IS for a couple of months, and later returns (for instance to Sweden), where they are interviewed on TV. Very disturbing and causing anti-immigration political parties to grow.

Again thanks for Your reply, I have to assume mr Trump either won't be elected President - or that he actually have sound plans for the things he "will fix" Cheers! Boeing720 (talk) 17:29, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

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Yes, everything needs to be referenced, see WP:RS, WP:V, WP:BLP - please also avoid WP:POV and WP:OR. GiantSnowman 12:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC) Everything essential yes, but we are oftenly accused of being too dry. Even Jimmy Wales agreed in this criticism in an interview on Swedish television last year. And what do you think about - for instance the CONFIG.SYS article ? Should we delete all similar stuff (or the major part of it) ? Boeing720 (talk) 18:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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Corn vs Maize[edit]

Please also read this archived discussion. The discussion has been going on as long as Maize became the title of the article years ago. Pro-corn has never been able to change it away from its present title due to valid pro-Maize arguments. - Takeaway (talk) 13:09, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Have had a brief look at the history. But couldn't find any pro-corn argument , that it infact is an American product. While "maize" means very little Irish and Brittons, it's an importaind food in America. In matters like these we have to give and take. I think. Hence do I still believe that corn is better than "mayze". But football should refer to the game which is played with the feet. Other articles would the be "Rugby Union", "Rugby League", "American Football", "Canadian Football", "Gaelic Football", "Australian Football" etc - only real football is played with the feet (and head). Boeing720 (talk) 20:07, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

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Bergen climate[edit]

Hi. Thanks for your edit to the Bergen article, but would you be able to provide a source (or sources) for the material you added? Cordless Larry (talk) 22:42, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

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Your edits on Malmö[edit]

Hello. I have reverted your edits on Malmö since the article is about that city, not about the Öresund Region. So having a lead that is as much about that region as about the subject of the article, Malmö, as in your rewrite, is WP:UNDUE. Thomas.W ^talk 10:09, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

HH Ferry route[edit]

Sorry, I didn't see your first message.

Article looks much better now, and I think you were correct in removing the adverisement tag.

Good work, thanks! :) Chessrat ^{(talk,contributions)} 03:44, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh no, it's I who must thank you. When wrighting long articles, is it very easy to make nisstakes like this one. I only wan't the article to be up to our common standard. Thanks again Boeing720 (talk) 04:01, 12 January 2016 (UTC)