Cannabis Indica

February 16

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 16, 2017.

Anti-Trump

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 March 4#Anti-Trump

National Highway 2A (India)(old numbering)

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep, no rationale presented. -- Tavix (talk) 20:19, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Mike Bell (Disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, G6, by Amakuru. -- Tavix (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Malformed qualifier, a leftover from a page move - if linked, User:DPL bot will report an error. I rceommend delete. NB Mike Bell (disambiguation) exists. Narky Blert (talk) 16:56, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Samsung Galaxy Note

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Samsung Galaxy Note series. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:50, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This targeted Samsung Galaxy Note series for the last few years until retargeted to the original last December by TheWikiContributor. I would imagine that the series is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, but seeing as it would be controversial to re-retarget, I'm taking it here. (Also: it may be better to move over redirect, but I'm unsure.) -- Tavix (talk) 16:12, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Expand citations

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The result of the discussion was keep without prejudice against boldly retargeting in the future. This discussion tried to search for a better target but hasn't found one. As there is a demonstrable need to keep a redirect at this title, I'm closing this discussion as keep, but editors are welcome to find (or create!) a better target and retarget boldly. Deryck C. 17:40, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think that this redirect should be retargeted to a guideline in regards to when to expand citations (possibly in regards to bare URLs), but I am unable to find such a target at the moment. The redirect's present target is a "how-to" about installing a specific script to expand citations, but if I recall, the most-used tool of the such is "reFill". Steel1943 (talk) 22:51, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Are you thinking of maybe a section link to someplace on Wikipedia:Citing sources? Though the only sections I could find on that page seemed to talk more about the virtues of shortening and avoiding clutter rather than expanding.
    I did find a few other potential targets but all of them were already prominently linked on Citing sources so that seems like it might be the best hub. None of the other targets seemed to have much about the specific sub-topic of citation expansion. Rossami (talk) 03:07, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:ExpandTemplates

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The result of the discussion was convert to soft redirect. WJBscribe (talk) 14:22, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

From my experiences, there usually are not redirects that directly target the "Special:" namespace due to possible technical issues. Also, the standard seems to be for "Special:" talk pages to be in the pseudo-namespace "Wikipedia talk:Special:" ... for example, see Wikipedia talk:Special:ExpandTemplates.) Steel1943 (talk) 22:48, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Explaining NFCC

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Non-free content. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:33, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking these redirects should be retargeted to Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria as Wikipedia:NFCC does. However, Wikipedia:Explaining NFCC was the former name of a page (Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in non-free image discussions) that was merged into the redirects' current target page. Steel1943 (talk) 22:05, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Retargeting to Wikipedia:Non-free content is okay as well. Steel1943 (talk) 15:14, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Graph (IA collection)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:30, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The word "graph" is not mentioned in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 14:46, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Additional Collections from Internet Archive

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The result of the discussion was delete. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:29, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear what this refers to since the section no longer exists. Steel1943 (talk) 14:44, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:European Union Frequently asked questions

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The result of the discussion was Delete. The more complex question (outside the scope of this RfD) is what to do with the discussion on the talkpage. It seems to me that the correct place to have a meta discussion about the FAQ is Talk:European Union and that the historical discussions about the FAQ (dating back to 2008/2009) can be added to the archives of that page in the appropriate places. I will do so as an editorial action (and not part of the closure of this RfD). WJBscribe (talk) 14:31, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:XNR. However, after it was created, it was retargeted by an established administrator, so ... I advocate delete on the grounds alone that it's a cross-namespace redirect, and to an article talk page. Steel1943 (talk) 02:07, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Favouritism

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. I'll do so at the American spelling as the draft dab uses that variant. -- Tavix (talk) 01:16, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It seems odd that different spellings of the same word should have different targets. Originally (circa 2005) both pointed to Elitism, but User:Tim bates retargeted the American spelling to Ingroup in 2011, noting "populists are routinely convicted of favoritism". Elitism is probably not the best target, but I'm not certain what is. Perhaps Favourite (companion of a ruler) or Favorite (disambiguation). Cnilep (talk) 01:33, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: The main options on the table so far are 1) retargeting to in-group favoritism, 2) disambiguating (draft dab page is available), and maybe 3) retargeting to Favourite.
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Relisting comment: The discussion seems to be moving towards disambiguating. I'd like to see if anyone else has any more comments for or against doing so before closing.
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Democrat Party (United States)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. -- Tavix (talk) 01:09, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Since the consensus last decided on 18 Feburary 2007 (nearly ten years ago) to redirect the page to Democratic Party, a dabpage, there have been attempts to change the redirect page's target to "Democratic Party (United States)". The page has been switched back and forth a few or several times. As of now, it redirects to "Democratic Party (United States)" without official discussion. I would have switched the page back to the dabpage, but my common sense tells me to have the discussion first before doing so. Shall we follow the consensus from 2007, retain "Democratic Party (United States)" as the present target, or redirect the page to another target? George Ho (talk) 17:50, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The current target (the Democratic Party disambig) might have been chosen in the mistaken belief that the US party is the primary topic, but I don't believe it has ever been. Thryduulf (talk) 19:21, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:FARC/Christmas

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 March 2#Wikipedia:FARC/Christmas

Middle Way Meditation

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The result of the discussion was keep. Thryduulf (talk) 13:16, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deletion, because term is hardly used as synonym of Dhammakaya meditation anymore. S Khemadhammo (talk) 12:17, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

S Khemadhammo, I take it that this term has been used as a synonym for Dhammakaya meditation in the past? Is it used nowadays to refer to something else? – Uanfala (talk) 23:24, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Uanfala:, no it is just hardly used anymore. It was formerly used widely by Wat Phra Dhammakaya, but not anymore. These days the temple mostly uses Dhammakaya meditation.--S Khemadhammo (talk) 09:13, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Uanfala:, so what is the verdict? Delete or keep?--S Khemadhammo (talk) 18:28, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if the term isn't ambiguous, then I don't see the point of deleting. It might not be much used anymore, but if it has been used in the past, then it is something that readers are likely to encounter in a book or other text, and when they come on wikipedia looking for more info, they should be able to find it. So that that means keep. – Uanfala (talk) 18:39, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Kremlingate

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 March 2#Kremlingate

Digital television remote control

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The result of the discussion was one confused closer. I don't know what the nomination was meant to accomplish, but a consensus has nonetheless emerged to delete this redirect. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:23, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
user:fmadd#disambiguating, why redirects seem so useful I'm trying to refactor to make more sense. the structure is locked down with 100's of pages pointing at3-5 possible places that aren't always right. (with overlapping (and sometimes contradictory) connotations of what 'remote control' means). For example it says 'wireless', and some remote controls are WIRED. Fmadd (talk) 02:08, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
what seems to have happened is remote control started out talking about ALL types of remote control, then got narrowed down to basically mean TV remote. Other 'connotations' of "remote control" are better handled in the article teleoperation. All over the place I've found places where the context is clearly talking about the latter, but it's linked to the former. Fmadd (talk) 02:10, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What i'm trying to do is - instead of having 100s of articles pointed at 3-5 places that might not be quite right, we have 10 or so redirects in the middle (things like "TV remote", "IR remote", etc) which help narrow down the context. Then it's much easier to fix the article structure (either move remote control to remote control (consumer electronics), or rework the lead section to mean all kinds of remote control, including wired remotes, and drones, and RC cars. Fmadd (talk) 02:12, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
anyway in this instance I can see you might aswell replace the use with digital television remote control, which is more common. It just seemed messier. What surprises me so much is the intense culture here of deleting things. why not leave the structure open? I've explained above why linking remote control doesn't make sense to me. I think it would be safer to have remote control (consumer electronics) etc, and then we see what people want to do with the article structure.Fmadd (talk) 02:19, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment @Jsharpminor and Fmadd: It's unclear what is being sought here, particularly given the lack of nomination statement. Please can you be specific about what you would like to see happen to the "Digital television remote control" redirect (deleted, kept as is, retargetted to a different page (which?) or converted to a disambiguation page). If there are other redirects you would like to discuss, please explicitly nominate them in this or a new discussion being specific about what action you are proposing and why. Thryduulf (talk) 13:20, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There's no digital television standard for remote controls. The signaling used in remote controls hasn't been modified to deal with digital television standards, or if it has, it hasn't been explained in the article at all. There's always wireless network and Wi-Fi if someone wants to get complicated stuff related to digital, or Home network and how to program your DVR using the Internet. Otherwise adding "digital" to "television remote" is a bit of an WP:XY as with "HD remote". AngusWOOF (barksniff) 00:16, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Angus, and for the largely unnecessary redirect created by an overzealous serial redirect-creator. Primefac (talk) 13:21, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was nomination merged see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 February 15#Gefangnis. Thryduulf (talk) 13:50, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated for deletion for the exact same reasons as Gefangnis. An unnecessary redirect that is a translation from German. --Necip Necipoglu (talk) 02:58, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Necip Necipoglu: Hi. I added the nomination at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 February 15#Gefangnis on your behalf. Can I close this as "procedural close", so the discussion can continue there? BTW, there are instructions on nominating a redirect at WP:RFD for future use. George Ho (talk) 09:31, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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