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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 07:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of association football clubs by average attendance[edit]

List of association football clubs by average attendance (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Wikipedia:Listcruft? New list that has an unclear criteria and is maintained by individual sources, and not a collective listed source. Would appreciate other opinions as I'm not sure. Idiosincrático (talk) 06:34, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Criteria is the same as List of attendance figures at domestic professional sports leagues. Why should there be a collective source? Is this a reason for deletion? Why deleting this and not lists for leagues???--Afus199620 (talk) 13:17, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Lists. Idiosincrático (talk) 06:34, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Totally agree with the nomination, and the inclusion based on All clubs with an attendance of over 35,000 are listed. That's a fair amount of clubs globally, not a very thought out list. Govvy (talk) 22:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  What exactly is wrong with this inclusion and not any other? Could you be more specific? Why not thought out? Very lazy argumentation. Afus199620 (talk) 11:38, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I think it's a usefull list for many people. "All clubs with an attendance of over 35,000 are listed" could be replaced with "Clubs with an attendance of over 35,000 are listed". As far as I know, almost all clubs seem to be included that should be in this list. The information seems to be reliable, here you can find all the information: https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-premier-league-2022-2023/1/ and https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm and https://www.transfermarkt.com/statistik/zuschauerrangliste for example. 141.0.29.182 (talk) 10:41, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These are all just football stat sites. They do not show WP:SIGCOV of this topic, which is what is required. WP:NOTSTATS applies. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:12, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - we've had many AfDs on this type of list before and all have resulted in delete due to essentially falling foul of WP:NOT. See here, here, here and here. I don't see any reason as to why this would be any different. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:10, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 19:19, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:22, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This page looks fine to me, I’d say let’s keep it. 2A02:A44A:ABBA:1:64A2:E757:FF10:5E30 (talk) 16:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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