The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:50, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

John Sobol[edit]

John Sobol (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

WP:BLP of a writer and musician, not reliably sourced as clearing our notability standards for either occupation. As always, neither writers nor musicians are automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist -- the notability test requires evidence of distinctions, such as winning or being nominated for major creative awards, and/or the provision of enough reliable source coverage about them in media to clear WP:GNG. But the only sources here are his "staff" profile on the self-published website of a directly affiliated organization and his self-written profile of himself on a public relations platform. These are not reliable or independent or notability-supporting sources, and nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have real third party coverage about him in real media. Bearcat (talk) 02:05, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 02:05, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 02:05, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Unable to find coverage in independent reliable sources. Non-notable.ABF992 (talk) 08:00, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - per rationale given by @Bearcat: , Furthermore Article creator claims subject of article is a musician and poet but he fails WP:MUSICIAN & WP:CREATIVE. Celestina007 (talk) 09:07, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
• Delete per above. Also note the article creator has created 11 people related articles on November 14, 2019 over a matter of just five hours. The pattern may suggest further concerns. Special:Contributions/Chuang726 Graywalls (talk) 18:20, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I noticed that they seem to be focused entirely on creating articles about poets associated with a specific organization based in a specific city; further, they've also already had several articles deleted before this. I didn't have time to comprehensively check all of their new articles for whether they were properly referenced as clearing our inclusion standards for writers or not, but I strongly suspect that some or most of them are also AFD candidates. Bearcat (talk) 23:02, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete No effective referencing. Fails WP:V and WP:BIO. scope_creep^Talk 18:50, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.