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The result was merge to Diplomacy (game). Sandstein 10:50, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Diplomacy the board game is obviously notable, but 'the play of Diplomacy on the Internet' is not. First, any and all board games can be ported online and these days most are, from solutions like the Tabletop Simulator to a myriad of apps. This may merit mention in the article about the game but rarely stand alone. Diplomacy has a cult following, but sadly, this has not been written about much, and nothing in this article helps. It has a lot of WP:OR (like the unreferenced table included in it), or is sourced to commercial or fan websites. I already completed a merge of the two or so sentences that were referenced to reliable sources ([1]). In summary, the topic of Internet Diplomacy fails WP:GNG and at best it could be soft deleted by being redirected to the main article. Listing it here as I already completed a merge and I dislike 'sneaky deletions' by redirects - it would be good to get consensus for soft deletion (or maybe someone can dig sources to improve this article, but given it's 99% OR/fansites/spam to Android apps WP:TNT comes to play too...). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:32, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:32, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Products-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:32, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge with Diplomacy (game)#Postal and email play. And I would suggest a more thorough merge than the one the OP just did. The info on Internet Diplomacy is worth preserving given its long history of being played online since 1983! (according to Meinel, Jim. Encyclopedia of Postal Diplomacy Zines. Great White North Productions, Alaska, USA, 1992.). Cordially, History DMZ ^{(HQ) † (wire)} 17:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • History DMZ, Do you see any reliably referenced content in that article to be merged? If so, can you quote it here (or better, merge it yourself)? I don't have access to the cited encyclopedia, and it is not used as a source in the current article. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:59, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, I do. The DipGame and Smartphone apps sections could be merged with the parent article. Also, IMO the three Google Play refs are not spam because they serve to prove that the game is also being played on smartphones. It would also be nice to hear what other users have to say or have found with regards to reliable sources. But the main article's 40+ refs could be used to verify some more of the info in this sub-article. Cheers, History DMZ ^{(HQ) † (wire)} 18:05, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • History DMZ, Links to commercial sites like Google Play are tough. On one hand, they may be ok per WP:SPS as, you say, a proof of the existence of something, on another, they are discouraged per WP:EL. Yeah, let's see what others say. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Merge what little can be scraped Basically per nom. If there was anything other than commercial links to merge than History DMZ has the right merge target. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:30, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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