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The result was delete.  Sandstein  11:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bug Bite (Transformers)[edit]

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Minor characters from the Transformers universe. No evidence of real-world notability. Contested prod; it was suggested that a merge was possible, but no target was suggested. Josh Milburn (talk) 16:53, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment In my capacity as an administrator that sometimes closes AFDs, I have come across a lot of these lately in my work, and they all seem to go to a merge, redirect or delete. Might it be worth exploring the idea of a collective solution, instead of bringing them to individual discussions to AFD? KaisaL (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not convinced this is possible; one-by-one deletion and merges (and not all of this is happening through AfD) is proving to be the most effective approach. There have been clear and clearly-expressed concerns about Transformers articles for years (take a search through the ANI archives; here's a thread from way back in 2010 in which people express frustration about how the problems with Transformers content had persisted for many years across literally hundreds of articles despite various attempts at seeing them cleaned up - things haven't improved). This may not be the quickest way at dealing with the problem, but it is working. Josh Milburn (talk) 17:54, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ok, happy to yield to your better judgement - just thought it was worth a mention. KaisaL (talk) 19:21, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:07, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to List of Gobots characters#Bug Bite, and let's stop messing with these until we can find an editor who wants to do the leg work to merge them appropriately, so as to keep from clogging up AfD. The merge, redirect, or delete roulette does nothing to provide consistency in coverage of not-individually-notable fictional elements and WP:WAX or WP:OSE are not designed to prohibit appropriately cleaning up multiple similar articles with mass mergers. Jclemens (talk) 23:54, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jclemens; I have sympathy with what you are saying here, but please see my comment above. Transformers content on Wikipedia has been an utter mess (lots of other terms could be used) for years, and, despite people expressing worries and hopes for improvement (and many discussions) over and over and over in this time, improvement and cleaning has not been forthcoming; content has continued to be (re)created following the same rules. A concrete solution is one thing, but "let's stop messing with these until we can find an editor who wants to do" something has been shown to be ineffective. Josh Milburn (talk) 08:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • AfD is not for cleanup. WP:NODEADLINE. WP:DEMOLISH. If the mess upsets you, please take the initiative to either look elsewhere or clean it up in a constructive way. ~Kvng (talk) 17:36, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • Please don't patronise me; I know that this process is not for cleanup, but some things need to be deleted, and telling me to "take the initiative" and suggesting that I am not being "constructive" is, funnily enough, neither taking the initiative nor being constructive. To repeat the sentiment from above: if you have a concrete solution, I'm all ears. Josh Milburn (talk) 20:27, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - the problem is that there's no primary target - the article title claims this is a Transformers character, but the content is all about Gobots, which is further confused by the BotCon stuff, which as I recall, deals with both, and further complicated by the toys being Transformers repaints. Without any indication of this article topic being any more than a minor background character, I don't see encyclopedic value so much as I do WP:FANCRUFT. There are plenty of other wikis for that. MSJapan (talk) 04:20, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. List of Gobots characters#Bug Bite seems like it might be a good target for a redirect or selective merge, but there's List of Decepticons#Miscellaneous, which also has Bug Bite listed. So I'm kind of confused as to which article we're supposed to redirect/merge to, like MSJapan said. I guess I don't mind deletion, but it seems like we've got a legitimate target here if we can make up our minds. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • My rationale for suggesting the Gobot merge target is that from a brief read of what we have here, this was a GoBot who switched dimensions (and franchises) and pretended to be a Decepticon in order to get vengence for cross-dimension/franchise issues. I could well be wrong, but that's what I was reading. Jclemens (talk) 07:49, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - This is a cleanup issue best handled by editors of Transformers-related articles. Although our policy is not to use AfD for cleanup it is often used in this way. I have left a notices on some related WikiProjects. Perhaps some better ideas will arrive. ~Kvng (talk) 15:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete- Poorly sourced article about a minor character, with no indication of a plausible merge target. Reyk _YO! 10:42, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.