Is there any any official documentation that the Starscream clones are named "Coward" or "Liar" any more than they are named Skywarp and Sunstorm? I believe the articles do mention that these are their suspected names until the are given official names. It is a little leap to assign them temporary named, but it's not a very long one. Would it be okay if we stated clearly that no names are given for them yet? I believe inconsistancy in names has happened before with Armada where Hasbro released a toy as Thundercracker, but the show called him a Starscream upgrade, but we will learn if that has happened again soon, hopefully. The Skywarp toy has shown up on ebay. I hope we see the box soon, but even if it says Skywarp is a coward on the box, will that prove he's the "purple clone" from the TV show? We have to make some leaps. Mathewignash (talk) 21:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, and calling the Female Starscream Dirge when her color scheme is based on Overlord (as revealed by Derrick Wyatt at Botcon), that's not baseless fan assumptions?

And there is official documentation calling them Coward and Liar and Sycophant and Female. It's called "character model sheets" and "episode scripts". That's already more than what you've got for "Skywarp", "Sunstorm", "Ramjet" and "Dirge". You could have a slight case with circumstancial evidence with Skywarp because of his upcoming toy and Thundercracker's toy bio... but you have nothing on "Sunstorm", "Ramjet" and "Dirge" since no toy has even been announced yet.

This is an encyclopedia, not a message board. You need to stop thinking assumptions and start thinking fact. It's just like Pat Lee's page. --Hiryu84 (talk) 23:30, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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