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*REDIRECT [[:Category:Calvin College faculty]] to [[:Category:Calvin University faculty]] – C2C, I intended to include this one in [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_December_18#Calvin_University]]. When implementing, please delete the newly-created target page under G6. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 21:52, 12 March 2020 (UTC) |
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* [[:Category:South Ribble District Council elections]] to [[:Category:South Ribble Borough Council elections]] – C2D per [[South Ribble Borough Council elections]]. [[User:Number 57|<span style="color: orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color: green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color: blue;">7</span>]] 18:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC) |
* [[:Category:South Ribble District Council elections]] to [[:Category:South Ribble Borough Council elections]] – C2D per [[South Ribble Borough Council elections]]. [[User:Number 57|<span style="color: orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color: green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color: blue;">7</span>]] 18:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC) |
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*REDIRECT [[:Category:Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters]] to [[:Category:Phoenix Super LPG Fuel Masters]] – C2D '''<sup>[[User:Babymissfortune|<span style="color:#552582;">Baby</span>]][[User talk:Babymissfortune|<span style="color:#061922;">miss</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Babymissfortune|<span style="color:#FDB927;">fortune</span>]]</sup>''' 09:07, 8 March 2020 (UTC) |
*REDIRECT [[:Category:Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters]] to [[:Category:Phoenix Super LPG Fuel Masters]] – C2D '''<sup>[[User:Babymissfortune|<span style="color:#552582;">Baby</span>]][[User talk:Babymissfortune|<span style="color:#061922;">miss</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Babymissfortune|<span style="color:#FDB927;">fortune</span>]]</sup>''' 09:07, 8 March 2020 (UTC) |
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to continue the process, it may be requested regularly at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous article
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there are no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.) If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
*REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 22:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 177 open requests (. )
Current requests
- REDIRECT Category:Calvin College faculty to Category:Calvin University faculty – C2C, I intended to include this one in Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_December_18#Calvin_University. When implementing, please delete the newly-created target page under G6. – Fayenatic London 21:52, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:South Ribble District Council elections to Category:South Ribble Borough Council elections – C2D per South Ribble Borough Council elections. Number 57 18:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters to Category:Phoenix Super LPG Fuel Masters – C2D Babymissfortune 09:07, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters players to Category:Phoenix Super LPG Fuel Masters players
- REDIRECT Category:Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters seasons to Category:Phoenix Super LPG Fuel Masters seasons
- REDIRECT Category:Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters templates to Category:Phoenix Super LPG Fuel Masters templates
- Oppose speedy until a reliable source confirms the recent name change. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- [1] Entered the opening ceremonies (and was introduced) using their new name. [2] Paolo Bugia is the team's general manager. I also added the templates cat for the request. Babymissfortune 03:34, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. @Babymissfortune: Youtube and Instagram are not reliable sources. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:List of clusters to Category:Lists of clusters – C2A: "list" should be plural in a category. Capewearer (talk) 14:07, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Television articles by importance by task forces to Category:Television articles by importance and task force – C2B, the "by" parameter should be singular, and C2C per Category:WikiProject Television articles by task force. Categories by two parameters should be named "by 1 and 2" rather than "by 1 by 2", C2B. Implementation note: edit Template:WPTV task force importance cat. – Fayenatic London 12:54, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Television articles by quality by task forces to Category:Television articles by quality and task force – as above. Implementation note: edit Template:WPTV task force quality cat.
- Category:High-importance television articles by task forces to Category:High-importance television articles by task force – as above. Implementation note: change "forces" to "force" in Template:WikiProject Television task force assessment category. – Fayenatic London 12:54, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Low-importance television articles by task forces to Category:Low-importance television articles by task force
- Category:Mid-importance television articles by task forces to Category:Mid-importance television articles by task force
- Category:NA-importance television articles by task forces to Category:NA-importance television articles by task force
- Category:Top-importance television articles by task forces to Category:Top-importance television articles by task force
- Category:Unknown-importance television articles by task forces to Category:Unknown-importance television articles by task force
- Category:A-Class television articles by task forces to Category:A-Class television articles by task force
- Category:B-Class television articles by task forces to Category:B-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Book-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Book-Class television articles by task force
- Category:C-Class television articles by task forces to Category:C-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Category-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Category-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Disambig-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Disambig-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Draft-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Draft-Class television articles by task force
- Category:FA-Class television articles by task forces to Category:FA-Class television articles by task force
- Category:File-Class television articles by task forces to Category:File-Class television articles by task force
- Category:FL-Class television articles by task forces to Category:FL-Class television articles by task force
- Category:FM-Class television articles by task forces to Category:FM-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Future-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Future-Class television articles by task force
- Category:GA-Class television articles by task forces to Category:GA-Class television articles by task force
- Category:List-Class television articles by task forces to Category:List-Class television articles by task force
- Category:NA-Class television articles by task forces to Category:NA-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Portal-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Portal-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Project-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Project-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Redirect-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Redirect-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Start-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Start-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Stub-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Stub-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Template-Class television articles by task forces to Category:Template-Class television articles by task force
- Category:Unassessed television articles by task forces to Category:Unassessed television articles by task force
- Completely agree. Not an opposing comment, but should this be "X WikiProject Television articles by task force"? --Gonnym (talk) 13:14, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- I think not, because another of the parents is Category:Television articles by importance which should not be renamed as it is in Category:WP 1.0 assessments, and it must match the sub-cat names in order for user:WP 1.0 bot to run the daily assessments updates. It would be odd to include "WikiProject" in the names of both parents and sub-cats of that one but not in its own name. As we are not using "WikiProject" (or task forces) for the entire hierarchy, I therefore advise we stick to the nomination above. – Fayenatic London 13:43, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Completely agree. Not an opposing comment, but should this be "X WikiProject Television articles by task force"? --Gonnym (talk) 13:14, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:10th-century kings of Germany to Category:10th-century Kings of the Romans, C2D per King of the Romans and C2C per Category:Kings of the Romans. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:11th-century kings of Germany to Category:11th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:12th-century kings of Germany to Category:12th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:13th-century kings of Germany to Category:13th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:14th-century kings of Germany to Category:14th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:15th-century kings of Germany to Category:15th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:16th-century kings of Germany to Category:16th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:17th-century kings of Germany to Category:17th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:18th-century kings of Germany to Category:18th-century Kings of the Romans
- Oppose speedy per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_August_3#Kings_of_the_Romans_or_kings_of_Germany. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- That was a merge proposal, not a rename proposal. In hindsight it should have been a reverse merge and I do not remember or understand why I did not (solely) propose a reverse merge back then, but anyhow I cannot see how that merge discussion makes this speedy rename proposal controversial. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Unassessed Idol series articles to Category:Unassessed Idols articles – C2D: Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Idols task force. Gonnym (talk) 15:55, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Stub-Class Idol series articles to Category:Stub-Class Idols articles
- Category:Start-Class Idol series articles to Category:Start-Class Idols articles
- Category:Requests for Idol series peer review to Category:Requests for Idols peer review
- Category:NA-Class Idol series articles to Category:NA-Class Idols articles
- Category:List-Class Idol series articles to Category:List-Class Idols articles
- Category:Idol series articles needing attention to Category:Idols articles needing attention
- Category:GA-Class Idol series articles to Category:GA-Class Idols articles
- Category:FL-Class Idol series articles to Category:FL-Class Idols articles
- Category:FA-Class Idol series articles to Category:FA-Class Idols articles
- Category:C-Class Idol series articles to Category:C-Class Idols articles
- Category:B-Class Idol series articles to Category:B-Class Idols articles
- Category:A-Class Idol series articles to Category:A-Class Idols articles
- Category:Idol series articles by quality to Category:Idols articles by quality
- Category:NA-importance Idol series articles to Category:NA-importance Idols articles
- Category:Unknown-importance Idol series articles to Category:Unknown-importance Idols articles
- Category:Top-importance Idol series articles to Category:Top-importance Idols articles
- Category:Mid-importance Idol series articles to Category:Mid-importance Idols articles
- Category:Low-importance Idol series articles to Category:Low-importance Idols articles
- Category:High-importance Idol series articles to Category:High-importance Idols articles
- Category:Idol series articles by importance to Category:Idols articles by importance
- Oppose all of the above These should be renamed to use "Idols task force", otherwise C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:37, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oh ffs. At this point you are entering the unproductive and Wp:Disruptive point. You oppose valid speedy nominations and then dont even bother to follow up in the actual disscusion. The last batch just closed after a month open with the result being an overwhelming support to match the exact style above. Your recent attitude here sadly seems to be akin to OWN. Gonnym (talk) 17:55, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: I share Gonnym's exasperation. We have just had two weeks of discussion of this issue at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 February 29#Television_task_forces (it started on 21 February, and was relisted), where this format was settled on. What on earth is the point of another week of full discussion on exactly the same issue? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:47, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- These categories were apparently processed under G6, pinging @Fayenatic london: for more details--Ymblanter (talk) 06:44, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, the above CFD closure included approval to use WP:G6 (housekeeping) for further Television task force assessment categories, iff consistent with "Option A" there i.e. following the task force name including capitals and plurals but omitting the words "task force". Armbrust and other Speedy participants were pinged about this[5] and raised no objections. Armbrust is often helpful in checking that the C2 criteria are not abused, but his objection here to C2D (valid or not) does not bar using another applicable WP:CSD criterion. – Fayenatic London 12:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians who like The Godfather to Category:Wikipedians who like The Godfather (film series) – C2D: The Godfather (film series). Gonnym (talk) 11:41, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be renamed to Category:Wikipedians interested in The Godfather (film series)? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- No one style used in Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series. TV series for example, use "who like". --Gonnym (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per Armbrust. "Fans" and "like" categories fail WP:UCAT's requirement that user cats must be "to aid in facilitating coordination and collaboration". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:12, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well 7 of the 11 subcategories of Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series use "interested in", so oppose as proposed. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:11, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- No one style used in Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series. TV series for example, use "who like". --Gonnym (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be renamed to Category:Wikipedians interested in The Godfather (film series)? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians who are fans of The Hunger Games movie to Category:Wikipedians who are fans of The Hunger Games (film series) – C2D: The Hunger Games (film series). Gonnym (talk) 11:33, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be renamed to Category:Wikipedians interested in The Hunger Games (film series)? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- No one style used in Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series. TV series for example, use "who like". --Gonnym (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well 7 of the 11 subcategories of Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series use "interested in", so oppose as proposed. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:11, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per Armbrust. "Fans" and "like" categories fail WP:UCAT's requirement that user cats must be "to aid in facilitating coordination and collaboration". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:12, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- No one style used in Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series. TV series for example, use "who like". --Gonnym (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be renamed to Category:Wikipedians interested in The Hunger Games (film series)? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians interested in Back to the Future to Category:Wikipedians interested in Back to the Future (franchise) – C2D: Back to the Future (franchise). Gonnym (talk) 11:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_July_24#Category:Back_to_the_Future. Armbrust The Homunculus 00:49, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians interested in Nightmare on Elm Street to Category:Wikipedians interested in A Nightmare on Elm Street (franchise) – C2D: A Nightmare on Elm Street (franchise). Gonnym (talk) 11:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_July_25#Category:A_Nightmare_on_Elm_Street. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Back to the Future to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) – C2D: Back to the Future (franchise). This is a franchise category. Gonnym (talk) 20:50, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Back to the Future soundtracks to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) soundtracks
- Category:Music from the Back to the Future (franchise) to Category:Music from Back to the Future (franchise)
- Category:Back to the Future franchise media to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) media
- Category:Back to the Future technology to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) technology
- Category:Back to the Future images to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) images
- Category:Back to the Future user templates to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) user templates
- Oppose speedy per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_July_24#Category:Back_to_the_Future. Armbrust The Homunculus 00:49, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:Sitcom show fan user templates to Category:Sitcoms fan user templates – C2C: Category:Sitcoms. Gonnym (talk) 20:09, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Gonnym The same as bellow, this should be renamed to Category:Sitcom fan user templates. Armbrust The Homunculus 00:23, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- This can be relisted for speedy renaming after closure of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_March_10#Category:Game_show_fan_user_templates. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Against renaming to Category:Sitcoms fan user templates. It would be better to rename Category:Sitcom show fan user templates to the much better name of Category:Sitcom television series fan user templates. This would help to make the categories more uniform looking. What do you think @Marcocapelle: and @Armbrust:. Catfurball (talk) 20:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Catfurball I don't think that's a good idea. There is no Category:Sitcom television series, just Category:Sitcoms. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:17, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: and @Marcocapelle: how about renaming Category:Sitcom show fan user templates to Category:Comedy television series fan user templates instead. 15:38, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- That wouldn't be a proposal for speedy renaming, would it? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:16, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Game show fan user templates to Category:Television game shows fan user templates – C2C: Category:Television game shows. Gonnym (talk) 19:55, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Gonnym Did you mean Category:Television game show fan user templates? I don't double pluralisation is needed here. Armbrust The Homunculus 00:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Veritas (political party) MEPs to Category:Veritas MEPs – C2C: consistent with parent Category:Veritas politicians. Opera hat (talk) 23:58, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- I only tagged the category now--Ymblanter (talk) 06:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is Veritas (political party). Armbrust The Homunculus 09:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not to mention Category:Veritas (political party). Oculi (talk) 11:02, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- That didn't stop the parent category from being moved. What happens now? Do I have to open another move request? Opera hat (talk) 19:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- It should have stopped the parent being renamed, but sadly knowledgeable editors did not contribute, and the closer merely counted votes. You need a full cfd rather than speedy. Oculi (talk) 10:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Right, a full CFD discussion is always required in cases of potential ambiguity. It would have helped to nominate multiple categories in the previous discussion. I suggest now that an "option A or option B" nomination be made (A = revert parent, B = rename subcats) so that the outcome will achieve consistency one way or the other. – Fayenatic London 10:59, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- It should have stopped the parent being renamed, but sadly knowledgeable editors did not contribute, and the closer merely counted votes. You need a full cfd rather than speedy. Oculi (talk) 10:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- That didn't stop the parent category from being moved. What happens now? Do I have to open another move request? Opera hat (talk) 19:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per Oculi. I agree with FL that a full optionA/optionB discussion is needed to clean up after the botched CFD in December. -BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:23, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. – Fayenatic London 14:43, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Islamia College (Lahore) alumni to Category:Government Islamia College, Lahore alumni – C2D. Störm (talk) 11:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose A geographic disambiguator is needed That should be the comma. Is would support an alternative name of Category:Islamia College alumni, Lahore or Category:Alumni of Islamia College, Lahore. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Laurel Lodged: I think the target name in the nomination is standard, e.g. Category:University of Agriculture, Faisalabad alumni. – Fayenatic London 14:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- The article is Government Islamia College, Lahore so this is completely standard, as nominated. Oculi (talk) 09:20, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion. – Fayenatic London 11:39, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose A geographic disambiguator is needed That should be the comma. Is would support an alternative name of Category:Islamia College alumni, Lahore or Category:Alumni of Islamia College, Lahore. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of historical period drama films to Category:Lists of historical drama films - C2D (Historical drama) - MapReader (talk) 14:23, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article was only recently moved and without discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- There’s an item on the talk page of the article. Should be (and so far proving) uncontroversial; ‘historical period drama’ is a tautology. Check Encyclopaedia Britannica, where ‘historical drama’ is the accepted category. MapReader (talk) 22:37, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article was only recently moved and without discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:00, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Fox Family original programming to Category:Fox Family Channel original programming – C2D: The article doesn't exist, but the redirect Fox Family Channel to the section History of Freeform (TV channel)#Fox Family does. The article says
The Family Channel was renamed Fox Family Channel – though on-air promotions typically referred to the network as just "Fox Family"
. Seeing how Fox Family is a redirect to Fox family, the official name is a natural disambiguation here. Gonnym (talk) 05:18, 2 February 2020 (UTC)- Oppose speedy If there is no article on the channel, then C2D can't possible apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- This was moved to full discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted at CFD 2020 Feb 11. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:24, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted again at CFD 2020 Mar 5. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:29, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the Hokkaido Legislative Assembly to Category:Members of the Hokkaido Prefectural Assembly – C2D. ミラP 18:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Only recently renamed and without discussion, so C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:55, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Mistresses of schools to Category:British headmistresses – C2C: Like the other categories in Category:Women school principals and headteachers. All the biographies are British Rathfelder (talk) 10:20, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy No clear convention in Category:Women school principals and headteachers. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:27, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- It should be renamed to something since Category:Mistresses serves a quite different purpose. Oculi (talk) 17:39, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: the proposed name is consistent with the other subcategories of "Women school principals and headteachers", which are American headmistresses, Australian headmistresses and Austrian headmistresses. TSventon (talk) 12:16, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- The convention in Category:School principals and headteachers is completely different. Oculi (talk) 22:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: the proposed name is consistent with the other subcategories of "Women school principals and headteachers", which are American headmistresses, Australian headmistresses and Austrian headmistresses. TSventon (talk) 12:16, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Dynasty (TV series) to Category:Dynasty (franchise) – C2C: There currently is no Dynasty (franchise) article, but this category is a container for 3 related TV series, Dynasty (1981 TV series), The Colbys and Dynasty (2017 TV series). Dynasty (TV series) redirects to a dab page as there are other unrelated series with this name. Gonnym (talk) 11:00, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There is no category that has "Dynasty (franchise)" in its title, so C2C clearly doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:29, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- np, this can be moved to regular discussion. Thought this might be uncontroversial with "(franchise)" being a standard in these situations, but have no problem with moving it to a normal discussion. --Gonnym (talk) 09:44, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- This has been moved to full discussion. – Fayenatic London 23:11, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- np, this can be moved to regular discussion. Thought this might be uncontroversial with "(franchise)" being a standard in these situations, but have no problem with moving it to a normal discussion. --Gonnym (talk) 09:44, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There is no category that has "Dynasty (franchise)" in its title, so C2C clearly doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:29, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:ITV to Category:ITV (TV network) – C2D: Article is at ITV (TV network). Gonnym (talk) 10:59, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I think Category:ITV plc would be a better target, given the article ITV plc. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Given your name, might you perhaps be based outside the UK, and less than fully informed on this one? Check the articles; ITV plc only has 13 of the 15 regional ITV licences, even after the merger of Granada & Carlton and subsequent takeovers. History of ITV is about the network, not just what is now the main company. – Fayenatic London 21:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I know the company very well. There are subcats in the category that are not limited to the networks, such as Category:ITV people; given an admittedly close call such as this one, I think the preference is for the top-level category to match the ultimate corporate parent. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:22, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Given your name, might you perhaps be based outside the UK, and less than fully informed on this one? Check the articles; ITV plc only has 13 of the 15 regional ITV licences, even after the merger of Granada & Carlton and subsequent takeovers. History of ITV is about the network, not just what is now the main company. – Fayenatic London 21:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I think Category:ITV plc would be a better target, given the article ITV plc. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- It has meanwhile been moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:24, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:New Democratic Party of Canada to Category:New Democratic Party (target currently empty, tagged for C1 deletion) – C2D, main article is at New Democratic Party UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:20, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose at least speedy. New Democratic Party (disambiguation) is ambiguous, so C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:28, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration – C2C - Anomalous+0 (talk) 13:00, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes
- Oppose There is just one other category to used the proposed format (Category:United States cabinet members from Nebraska), so C2C doesn't apply. (The second is also a subcategory of Category:United States Executive Cabinet navigational boxes). Armbrust The Homunculus 19:27, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:31, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted at CFD 2020 Feb 9. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:40, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Jewish television series to Category:Television series about Jews and Judaism – per C2C NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:42, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment This probably shouldn't go ahead speedily as long as 2 similar categories are in the opposed section. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. As before C2C applies to Category:Religious television series as well. --Gonnym (talk) 23:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Jewish-related television programs to Category:Television programs about Jews and Judaism – C2C within parent Category:Works about Jews and Judaism. See also Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_December_30#Category:Buddhism-related_television_episodes. – Fayenatic London 14:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose as proposed: Seems Category:Works about Jews and Judaism is the odd one in Category:Works about religion and it should probably be the one changed and this be Category:Television programs about Judaism. --Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Television episodes about Judaism to Category:Television episodes about Jews and Judaism – C2C within grandparent Category:Works about Jews and Judaism. – Fayenatic London 10:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose: One of the parents is Category:Television episodes about religion and this category uses that same style such as Category:Television episodes about Christianity and Category:Television episodes about Islam. Also, looking at Category:Works about religion, seems "Works about Jews and Judaism" is the odd one here and should be the one renamed. --Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Until the CFD last month, the category was "Category:Jewish-related television episodes", so it may include content about Jewish ethnic identity that is not exclusively about Judaism as a religion. Nevertheless such content should not be removed, because this is part of a well-established hierarchy Category:Jews and Judaism. – Fayenatic London 11:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better then to split the pages that deal with the Jewish ethnic identity such as The Entity (South Park) from those that deal with the religion such as A Rugrats Passover? I was trying to find other ethnic groups that have a similar TV categories but couldn't find one, but Category:Works about race and ethnicity would be a logical parent to categories such as Category:Television episodes about Native Americans (similar to Category:Films about Native Americans) or Category:Television episodes about Romani people (similar to Category:Films about Romani people). In this case it would be Category:Television episodes about Judaism and Category:Television episodes about Jews. --Gonnym (talk) 12:13, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- That split sounds as if it might be feasible in this case, but could be much harder to work through the rest of the hierarchy, and we might as well treat TV categories consistently with the rest. I'd want to hear from WP:WikiProject Judaism first, so I have posted a notice there. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I support the rename, and would leave a split between Jews and Judaism for the future. Same for the other category above. Debresser (talk) 01:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Concurring with Debresser. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: would you be prepared to withdraw your opposition to these two? – Fayenatic London 15:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'd like to understand what the argument "and would leave a split between Jews and Judaism for the future" means. If they both support a split, then why don't we do it now? It's not like the category has hundreds of entries. We're talking about 16 pages. --Gonnym (talk) 16:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't read it as support for the split, just openness to a further discussion which could cover the relevant hierarchy in one go. That would clearly be beyond the scope of this Speedy page. – Fayenatic London 08:19, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Then I'm sorry, I don't see how changing this category to be consistent with one parent, but inconsistent with another, makes it any better than the current style. Lumping two similar but different topics (religion and ethnicity) in the same category makes less sense than fixing the categories. --Gonnym (talk) 08:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london That is indeed what I had in mind, but since Gonnym opposes this speedy proposal and the discussion is going to have to take place sooner or later, I propose to make this a full Cfd discussion at this stage. Debresser (talk) 11:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't read it as support for the split, just openness to a further discussion which could cover the relevant hierarchy in one go. That would clearly be beyond the scope of this Speedy page. – Fayenatic London 08:19, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'd like to understand what the argument "and would leave a split between Jews and Judaism for the future" means. If they both support a split, then why don't we do it now? It's not like the category has hundreds of entries. We're talking about 16 pages. --Gonnym (talk) 16:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: would you be prepared to withdraw your opposition to these two? – Fayenatic London 15:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Concurring with Debresser. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- I support the rename, and would leave a split between Jews and Judaism for the future. Same for the other category above. Debresser (talk) 01:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- That split sounds as if it might be feasible in this case, but could be much harder to work through the rest of the hierarchy, and we might as well treat TV categories consistently with the rest. I'd want to hear from WP:WikiProject Judaism first, so I have posted a notice there. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better then to split the pages that deal with the Jewish ethnic identity such as The Entity (South Park) from those that deal with the religion such as A Rugrats Passover? I was trying to find other ethnic groups that have a similar TV categories but couldn't find one, but Category:Works about race and ethnicity would be a logical parent to categories such as Category:Television episodes about Native Americans (similar to Category:Films about Native Americans) or Category:Television episodes about Romani people (similar to Category:Films about Romani people). In this case it would be Category:Television episodes about Judaism and Category:Television episodes about Jews. --Gonnym (talk) 12:13, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Until the CFD last month, the category was "Category:Jewish-related television episodes", so it may include content about Jewish ethnic identity that is not exclusively about Judaism as a religion. Nevertheless such content should not be removed, because this is part of a well-established hierarchy Category:Jews and Judaism. – Fayenatic London 11:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose: One of the parents is Category:Television episodes about religion and this category uses that same style such as Category:Television episodes about Christianity and Category:Television episodes about Islam. Also, looking at Category:Works about religion, seems "Works about Jews and Judaism" is the odd one here and should be the one renamed. --Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:People from Manchester (district) to Category:People from the City of Manchester – C2C: to match the rest of Category:People from Greater Manchester Rathfelder (talk) 08:56, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose - per Manchester, parent cat Category:Manchester, lack of article City of Manchester etc. Oculi (talk) 09:55, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "City of Manchester" is the correct disambiguator per WP:UKDISTRICTS so C2B might be possible here (although something like Category:People from the Metropolitan Borough of Manchester might actually be better to prevent confusion with other places like Old Trafford that would probably be thought of as being part of the city (but aren't part of the district). Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:24, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- WP:UKDISTRICTS explicitly gives Manchester as the correct term, in the bulleted para beginning "In around 45 cases". Oculi (talk) 23:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- That's because it isn't split in article space, similar to the fact that although Solihull and Metropolitan Borough of Solihull exist in mainspace, only Category:Solihull exists for both terms (though there is a separate people from category). Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:35, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- There is a simultaneous full discussion about this. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:37, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted at CFD 2020 Jan 23. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:10, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:People who compete in parasports to Category:Parasports competitors – Per parent Category:Sports competitors. People-centred language is not required when the focus is occupational. SFB 18:48, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Current name was chosen during a full discussion. (Also Parasports redirects to Disabled sports). Armbrust The Homunculus 12:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Sillyfolkboy: moved to full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:14, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted at CFD 2020 Jan 20. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted at CFD 2020 Feb 2. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Sillyfolkboy: moved to full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:14, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Current name was chosen during a full discussion. (Also Parasports redirects to Disabled sports). Armbrust The Homunculus 12:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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