RD: Ingrid Sischy

• Weak support not a bad shout for notability, pretty poor article, but overall can't oppose. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:39, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Hulk Hogan

Change Turkey blurb

• Support Turkey finally intervening in the Syrian/Iraqi conflict is important considering they are a regional power. I also think we should wait for more information on the reported PKK air strikes and the potential breaking of the ceasefire and maybe mention that as well. Jeanluc20 (talk) 09:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment This is also major development in Turkish-Kurdish conflict, which shoud be included within blurb. --Jenda H. (talk) 11:14, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am open to that, but the blurb will probably get quite long then? Zwerg Nase (talk) 12:02, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support – Altblurb II including Kurds offered above. Source footnoted in article, which alas mentions these developments only in the concluding Aftermath section. Sca (talk) 14:19, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support switching to alt-blurb II per Sca, but oppose changing the date. It's still at the top of the ITN news feed. It is possible that this could be the beginning of a serious escalation in Turkish military action. If so we may want to consider an ongoing nomination. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:47, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support altblurb important developments - the involvement against the PKK is noteworthy, and has implications for US led efforts against ISIS and the interaction of the US with the YPG/PKK.-- Callinus (talk) 16:13, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• I'd be ready to post this soon, but would Turkey–ISIL_conflict#July_2015_conflict be a better link for the new bolded article on the airstrikes? The article itself is more directly relevant, fairly comprehensive and well referenced, and has information that seems to be being updated daily. --Jayron32 16:55, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• That article seems to have a very strongly anti-Turkish slant. -- Callinus (talk) 17:03, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• How so? Can you explain and give examples? --Jayron32 17:51, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• See my change here. That was one of the more notable examples. -- Callinus (talk) 03:51, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support, blurb including police raids, and use Operation Martyr Yalçın article for airstrikes.: Although I don't think the article is 'strongly anti-Turkish', the lead (which admittedly I wrote) did seem to be a bit overtly critical of Turkey's stance on ISIL before the airstrikes. I've reworded it a bit now so it sounds slightly less so. May I propose an alternative blurb, which is:
  'After a suicide bombing in Suruç that killed 32 people, Turkey launches airstrikes and police raids (pictured) against ISIL and the Kurdistan Workers' Party' - Nub Cake (talk) 23:14, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Operation Martyr Yalçın article is fairly new and currently undeveloped, but I'm developing it as quick as I can. Nub Cake (talk) 08:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Burundian presidential election, 2015

Article: Burundian presidential election, 2015 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Pierre Nkurunziza is re-elected president of Burundi in a disputed election that was boycotted by Nkurunziza's rivals. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Pierre Nkurunziza is re-elected president of Burundi, marking his third term.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Pierre Nkurunziza is re-elected president of Burundi, whose third-term is disputed.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Pierre Nkurunziza is re-elected president of Burundi in a controversial election.
News source(s): Reuters New York Times Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Everymorning (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

• Support I agree that for NPOV reasons we should mention the disputed nature of the election. Neljack (talk) 22:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support This ITNR election is especially interesting due to its disputed nature. Mamyles (talk) 23:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support once the article is ready. However I would caution that we on ITN have generally avoided making references to controversy in blurbs about elections. Some very hinky elections have gone through with just a bland statement about the official results. I vaguely recall supporting a similar suggestion about an obviously bogus election somewhere or other and getting shot down. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I wish to reiterate that I have serious NPOV reservations about the blurb which does not appear consistent with normal practice on ITN. We do not generally add cometary about controversies to blurbs about elections.-Ad Orientem (talk) 00:44, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Added altblurb to your pleasure. George Ho (talk) 00:55, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That works. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well I have serious NPOV reservations about the altblurb. The original blurb is entirely factual - the election was disputed and boycotted by opposition rivals. Failing to reflect that in the blurb would fail to reflect the various points of view on the election. As is evident from the news coverage, reliable sources are prominently featuring the fact that the election was boycotted. We are not putting commentary in the blurb - that would be if we said something like "in an unfair election" - we are making factual statements about the election being disputed and boycotted. Neljack (talk) 04:23, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support alternative blurb. --bender235 (talk) 11:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support – Altblurb III. (Grammar: In Altblurb II, "whose" refers to Burundi, not to Nkurunziza.) Sca (talk) 14:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support we posted the coup attempt. -- Callinus (talk) 15:32, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted a completely neutral and factual blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:46, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• @David Levy: Can we update the picture to the Burundian President? With the new captioning system, it's gotten more technical to do so. Maybe on the instructions page here we can list admins who are comfortable updating pics? That may be useful so we know who to contact when it is needed. --Jayron32 16:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  I've already added it to the media protection page here, just waiting for Kinklebot to sort it and then we can list it. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:00, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  In fact, already protected (Krinklebot seems to work on new material within 15 minutes, which is better than heaping all this on poor old David, especially since he kindly set this alt-method up for us), so I've replaced the image. Only thing is that the width of 120 was way to wide, so I set it down to 100, not sure if that was appropriate.... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:04, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Looks good. Thanks! --Jayron32 17:51, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Shouldn't the blurb say "(pictured)" after Nkurunziza's name? Everymorning talk 19:18, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Pictures now have captions. 331dot (talk) 19:44, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Looks good. Sca (talk) 21:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  We are no longer encouraged to place (pictured) in the blurb (although this is the second time in quick succession that it has been noted that its absence is confusing...... the irony) as we have the grotesque captions that received some consensus somewhere, I can't point you to it because I never saw a clear indication of such a discussion. It just happened. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Anthem Inc. buying Cigna

Portal:Current events/2015 July 23

Armed conflicts and attacks Spillover of the Syrian Civil War Turkey scrambles fighter jets and Turkish tanks open fire on ISIS positions along the Syrian border following an exchange of fire which left one Turkish soldier dead and two injured. The clashes are the first direct combat between the Turkish military and ISIS forces. There are multiple reports of Turkish ground forces crossing the official border into Syria. (Telegraph) Turkey agrees to allow the United States access to İncirlik Air Base, near the city of Adana (in close proximity to the Syrian border) for the US-led coalition forces' air strikes against ISIS. (Today's Zaman) China's People's Liberation Army conducts a series of military exercises simulating an attack on Taiwan's Presidential Office Building. (Focus Taiwan) (Quartz) (Wall Street Journal) Business and economy Greek government-debt crisis timeline A majority in the Greek parliament votes to approve a second bailout reform package. (Euronews) Pearson PLC agrees to sell Financial Times Group to Nikkei Inc. for £844 million. (BBC) Disasters and accidents At least 35 people are killed in a boat crash on Egypt's Nile. (BBC), (Yahoo) Law and crime Broken Arrow killings Five people are killed and a girl is wounded in a stabbing at a home in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, U.S. that occurred the previous day. Two teenage suspects are arrested. (CNN) 2015 Lafayette shooting Seven people are wounded, and three are dead (including the shooter) after a 58-year-old gunman opens fire at the Grand 16 Movie Theater in Lafayette, Louisiana during a showing of Trainwreck. (NBC), (CNN) Science and technology Discoveries of exoplanets NASA scientists announce the discovery of Kepler-452b, the first near-Earth sized exoplanet discovered orbiting the habitable zone of a Sun-like star. (NASA), (BBC) [Closed] RD: Aung Thaung no move toward support μηδείς (talk) 00:34, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Article: Aung Thaung (talk · history · tag) Recent deaths nomination (Post) News source(s): NY Times Myanmar Times Credits: Nominated by George Ho (talk · give credit) Updated by MyatLynnAung (talk · give credit), Sky89 (talk · give credit) and Phyo WP (talk · give credit) Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. Nominator's comments: Although Burmese-centric, one of influential Burmese politicians involved in only domestic affairs. Well-sourced. Obviously notable, but I hope he is on top of field. George Ho (talk) 01:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose: No apparent significance outside of his home country. -Kudzu1 (talk) 03:24, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose. Article is mostly about his alleged links to political provocateurs and allegations of corruption. All of this is referenced to political sources that seem difficult to evaluate as to reliability. May not meet the BLP test. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 05:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose. Does not appear to have been one of the leaders of his nation, significant only in corruption and human rights violation allegations. Doesn't meet the RD criteria. Challenger l (talk) 17:52, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. [Closed] LaFayette Grand Theatre shooting SNOW Close. SpencerT♦C 18:11, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Article: 2015 Lafayette shooting (talk · history · tag) Blurb: ​ A shooting at the Grand Theatre movie theater in Lafayette, Louisiana results in the deaths of 3 people, including the shooter, and 9 injuries. (Post) News source(s): NOLA, BBC Credits: Nominated by WaltCip (talk · give credit) Nominator's comments: Might as well throw this one out there. WaltCip (talk) 14:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose. While an unfortunate event, it does not have the scale to be posted to ITN. It also sadly is not that unusual these days. 331dot (talk) 14:28, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Honestly, I think the fact that it's no longer considered unusual is rather unusual in itself.--WaltCip (talk) 14:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose Looks like The Smoking Man, otherwise random murder suicide of no grander importance. μηδείς (talk) 15:45, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose just another day, another three deaths to add to the 7,000+ so far this year in American due to gun crime. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:49, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Isn't it disgusting how stories like this continue to happen despite all the public outcry?--WaltCip (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Yes, but this isn't a place to right wrongs. It's simply not newsworthy, tomorrow it will be completely forgotten about. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:25, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Somebody needs to right these great wrongs. I agree ITN isn't the place to do it but I hate that these shootings keep happening and that the powers that be stop us from doing anything to stop the next one. </rant> – Muboshgu (talk) 16:35, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] I think most of the civilised world think it's disgusting that this is allowed, nay encouraged, by the free and easy gun laws in the US. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:40, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] There were 14 reported murder-suicides in the U.S. from July 17-23. And our elected politicians are doing nothing about it, save a few who are being stymied by the majority. Gun nuts even made Buzzfeed back down today. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:00, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support - still major shooting. Have received national and international attention.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:22, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Weak Oppose - It's basically minor relative to all gun-based murders in the US on an annual basis but the notion that it was at a public shooting is something of some weight. But still a minor story and unfortunately all too common. --MASEM (t) 16:28, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Most of the 7,000+ deaths by firearm so far this year in the US have happened in public, that this happened in a cinema is nothing novel nor newsworthy given the regularity of this kind of event. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:39, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose Another day, another mass shooting in the United States. Barring a high body count, terrorist motives, or something else that really sets it apart, these events are sadly becoming too common to be constantly posted on ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:35, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] can this be snowclosed already? Nergaal (talk) 17:08, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] I've no objection to snowclosing it. I mainly just wanted to gauge the response that items like this will get for reference for future nominations.--WaltCip (talk) 17:58, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. [Posted] Kepler-452b Artist's conception of Kepler-452b Articles: Kepler (spacecraft) (talk · history · tag) and Kepler-452b (talk · history · tag) Blurb: ​ Kepler finds Kepler-452b, the smallest planet discovered so far orbiting in a circumstellar habitable zone. (Post) Alternative blurb: ​ The Kepler space telescope discovers Kepler-452b, the smallest planet yet found in a habitable zone. Alternative blurb II: ​ The Kepler space telescope discovers Kepler-452b, the smallest planet discovered so far orbiting the habitable zone of a star similar to the Sun. News source(s): BBC Credits: Nominated by Hektor (talk · give credit) Nominator's comments: It seems they have found the most Earth-like planet so far. Hektor talk 16:55, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support on suitable article improvements. This is very interesting news that is getting a decent amount of coverage. I would however strongly suggest that the primary link be to the newly created article on the actual planet once it is ready (it's currently a work in progress). -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support the most Earth-like exoplanet yet found is obviously a great discovery. Thue (talk) 17:32, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support after article improved. Daniel Case (talk) 18:33, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose: Fairly routine exoplanet discovery. Many similar worlds have been found, and very many more will be found. -Kudzu1 (talk) 18:37, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] So can you point out another similar world which has been discovered? Thue (talk) 19:05, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Sure: Kepler-438b, which actually ranks as more Earthlike than Kepler-452b. More listed at Earth Similarity Index. -Kudzu1 (talk) 19:46, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Well, that one is circling a red dwarf. I think it is noteworthy that we found the first earth-like world in the habital zone around a Sun-like star. Thue (talk) 23:43, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] I would prefer an improvement on the current article before posting this. With a surface gravity of 2G is not really that much Earth-like. Nergaal (talk) 18:38, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose per Kudzu1. Another planet just like this was found earlier this year. This type of discovery is now rather routine. Mamyles (talk) 18:51, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support. While not an expert in this field, I'm a bit concerned that due to the planet's mass, it could be a toxic volcanic world with an atmosphere like that of Venus. However, we must stick to what the media writes about this, and they have declared it to be the first Earth like planet in the right place that would potentially allow life to exist within the same sorts of constraints as exist here on Earth. Count Iblis (talk) 19:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Question is it a sun-like star which making this discovery special? --Jenda H. (talk) 19:53, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] It's the combination of the Sun-like star that has the same sort of properties like our own Sun, the fact that the planet is not much smaller or much larger than Earth, the fact that it orbits at a distance where the energy from its Sun will warm it so that water can exist in a liquid form. Count Iblis (talk) 20:00, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support - definitely newsworthy.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:17, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support fascinating news getting coverage even during the hourly minute news summary on the car radio today. μηδείς (talk) 21:04, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support although I'd like to see the blurb tweaked a little, perhaps just to say that the first Kepler is a space observatory. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:29, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support although as The Rambling Man mentioned, it would be a good idea to modify the blurb to "The Kepler space telescope discovers Kepler-452b, the smallest planet yet found in the habitable zone." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wer902 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 23 July 2015‎ (UTC)[reply] Support, but there a billions of stars in this galaxy, so please correct it to state "... orbiting a circumstellar habitable zone". Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 03:12, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Not ready: Blurb is inaccurate, as Kepler-438b is a smaller planet in its star's habitable zone. -Kudzu1 (talk) 03:46, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Indeed. Added an altblurb to clarify that this is an earth-like planet around a sun-like star. Stephen 05:49, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Not Ready: The article needs some editing, then I would support the Alternate Blurb or Wer902's proposal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nutster (talk • contribs) 07:10, 24 July 2015‎ (UTC)[reply] What kind of editing? Which part needs to be improved? George Ho (talk) 19:10, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Comment Just want to reiterate that only Alt Blurb II is accurate. This is neither the smallest planet in the habitable zone, nor the most habitable. Mamyles (talk) 13:47, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] I have modified the altblurb to remove circumstellar as redundant given "around" and "star" are already there. μηδείς (talk) 01:53, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Marked ready, given consensus, update, and lack of issues with the article. μηδείς (talk) 01:56, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Posted. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:50, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Attention needed: As discussed above, the blurb that was posted is not accurate. There have been smaller planets discovered orbiting within the hypothetical habitable zones of their stars, the difference being that those stars (unlike Kepler-452) are not Sun-like. -Kudzu1 (talk) 17:47, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Agreed, the "similar to the sun" phrase can't accurately be ommitted. μηδείς (talk) 19:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Comment please take issues to ERRORS. Also, before marking ready, please ensure a "ready" blurb has been agreed upon. Sorry for posting something that wasn't accurate, but this nomination is a bit of a mess of blurb suggestions. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:08, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] July 22 Portal:Current events/2015 July 22 Armed conflicts and attacks A suicide bomb attack kills at least 15 people in northern Afghanistan. (CNN) Two explosions in the Nigerian city of Gombe killed at least 29 people. (Reuters) Arts and Culture The University of Oxford has radiocarbon dated fragments, of what apparently is the world's oldest Quran, to between 568 A.D. and 645 A.D. The animal skin parchment was found hidden inside the pages of another book in England's University of Birmingham library. (Daily Mail) (Deutsche Welle) Business and economy The European Central Bank provides an extra 900 million euros to the Greek banks. (The Independent) Disasters and accidents 2015 Studénka train crash Three people die in a collision between a Pendolino train and a lorry that occurred near Studénka, north Moravia, in the Czech Republic. (Yahoo news) (ABC news) (ČTK) Law and crime Charleston church shooting Dylann Roof, the suspect in the murder of nine people in the American city of Charleston, South Carolina, is indicted on dozens of federal offenses including hate crimes. (The Guardian) The former prime minister of Egypt, Ahmed Nazif, is sentenced to five years in prison after losing appeal against 3-year prison sentence for corruption. (Cairo Post) Science and technology The finals of the robot football World Cup are held. A Chinese team defeats the Netherlands in the finals of the middle-weight non-humanoid league, while another lost in the final of the small humanoid class to a team from Japan. (DutchNews) (BBC) Health and medicine Scientists at the U.S. NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases report a major breakthrough toward finding a new universal flu vaccine by using non-infectious H-proteins instead of whole viruses.(NIAID) [Closed] China returns Ai Weiwei's passport No real reason to continue this debate which is almost wholesale in its rejection of the proposal. Once again, DYK seems an appropriate alternative. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:17, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Article: Ai Weiwei (talk · history · tag) Blurb: ​ Chinese artist Ai Weiwei is returned his passport, four years after it was seized by government authorities. (Post) News source(s): The Guardian NPR CNN Credits: Nominated by Everymorning (talk · give credit) Nominator's comments: It seems we posted when he was detained and had his passport seized in April 2011, so now that he has gotten it back it seems significant as well. Everymorning talk 19:08, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose I don't think the passport was the defining issue. I guess hundreds, if not thousands of people get their passport returned to them every month. No big deal. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose per RTM. Passport problems are not generally ITN material. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:51, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Rambling The Man? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:17, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Well sometimes you do go on a bit... ;-) -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:19, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Indeed, it's all about obfuscation.... The Rambling Man (talk) 20:25, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Weak Support huge in the news when this happened, but doesn't seem to be getting reported on much in the West. A good update might make the case. μηδείς (talk) 01:05, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oh good, totalitarianism over. Sarcasm aside, I don't think this is significant/notable enough to be posted, so I'll oppose. -Kudzu1 (talk) 01:27, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose I'm assuming this was nominated because of its political significance rather than "man receives passport". Unfortunately, I'm not seeing what political impact this event has. Fuebaey (talk) 16:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. [Closed] Birmingham Quran manuscript overwhelming math μηδείς (talk) 01:00, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Article: Birmingham Quran manuscript (talk · history · tag) Blurb: ​ A Quranic manuscript in the collection of the University of Birmingham is identified as one of the oldest to survive. (Post) News source(s): BBC, CNN; Guardian; NYT; many others. Credits: Nominated by Pigsonthewing (talk · give credit) Support as nominator. Note that the article has a PD image. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support - definitely notable.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:25, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose Tiny article with a grand total of three references. --Tocino 14:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose per Tocino, but screams for a great DYK nomination, which this is best suited for. --MASEM (t) 14:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose DYK will pick up that hook. -- Callinus (talk) 14:44, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support This is getting good international coverage in mainstream news media. The size of the article is unimportant; it's big enough. The image is the main attraction and the close-up would make a good replacement for the picture of Jules Bianchi who's been getting far too much attention for someone who never won a single F1 race. Andrew D. (talk) 14:57, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose, no indication that the text is in any way different or of interest to scholars. Age established by only one method—radiocarbon dating—means over-reliance on a primary source. Abductive (reasoning) 16:29, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose - agree that this would make a great DYK but doesn't seem to be sufficiently big a deal for ITN even if the article was GA quality. Pedro :  Chat  17:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose I agree that there would be something here if this version differed from the commonly used Quran, or provided something that theologians could study. But, this is just an old copy, so hooray it survived, but it's not really fit for ITN. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:32, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose This is not the Dead Sea Scrolls or similar, which actually are of value to academics; all this non-story is is "book was written at about the time we thought it was written". – iridescent 18:00, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose This really isn't ITN material. That said, I agree with the suggestions above, this would be a great DYK candidate. I suggest the discussion be closed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:23, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose it's a DYK. The proposed image, considering it's only a suggested oldest Quran, is mildly interesting, but nothing more, and certainly doesn't bolster the reason to post this. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:45, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. July 21 Portal:Current events/2015 July 21 Armed conflicts and attacks The Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) and human rights organizations say that YPG fighters have captured one juvenile prison and a power station south of Al-Hasakah. (kurdpress) Business and economy Greek government-debt crisis timeline The government of Greece submits more legislation to the Hellenic Parliament required by its creditors to start a bailout package. (Reuters) Hisao Tanaka stands down as the CEO of Japanese company Toshiba following a $1.2 billion accounting scandal. (Financial Times) International relations The Philippines announces plans to increase its defense budget by 25% amid ongoing tension in the South China Sea. (AFP via Straits Times) Law and crime Authorities in Waller County, Texas announce that the death of activist Sandra Bland in police custody will be treated as a murder investigation. (CNN) Politics and elections Burundian presidential election, 2015 Voters in Burundi go to the polls for a presidential election amidst gunfire and violence with President Pierre Nkurunziza seeking a third term and opposition parties boycotting the election. At least two people have been killed in election violence. (BBC), (Reuters via SABC) 2016 United States presidential election The Governor of Ohio John Kasich becomes the 16th person to seek the nomination of the Republican Party. (NBC News) Sports The National Hockey League announces that it has received formal applications for expansion teams from ownership groups in Las Vegas and Quebec City. If granted, the expansion teams would begin play in the 2017–18 season. (CBC) [Closed] RD: Nicholas Gonzalez (physician) Clear consensus against posting. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:42, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Article: Nicholas Gonzalez (physician) (talk · history · tag) Recent deaths nomination (Post) News source(s): Official website Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. Nominator's comments: One of alternative medicine physicians considered to be fraudulent and dangerous. He faced lawsuits. George Ho (talk) 01:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Strong oppose Not top of his field, in fact, from a read of his bio appears to be the bottom of his field, without any lasting impact aside from the damage caused by his "alternative cancer treatments". Reminds me of a less funny Dr. Nick. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:07, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose given no one has even nominated this. μηδείς (talk) 02:15, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Strong Oppose Random quack doctor whose death wasn't even reported by any sources aside from his own website. Muboshgu's comparison to Dr. Nick seems an apt one. Challenger l (talk) 03:27, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose per preceding comments. This does not even come close to meeting ITN guidelines. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:33, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. [Closed] World Santa Claus Congress starts in Denmark Closing per WP:SNOW. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:58, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Article: Santa Claus (talk · history · tag) Blurb: ​ World Santa Claus Congress starts in Denmark (Post) News source(s): ABC Credits: Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit) Article needs updating  Count Iblis (talk) 16:25, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose No article for the event. @User:Count Iblis, with all due respect, is this a serious nomination? If so, you may want to include nominator rationale for explaining the event's notability. SpencerT♦C 16:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose I hope it's more professional and less annoying than SantaCon. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose I am assuming the nomination was made in good faith, but this is so far removed from ITN standards that I would normally expect it on April 1st. I think it's about to snow. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose WP:SNOW, no target, fluff news -- Callinus (talk) 18:44, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support What are we, Grinches? Should probably wait for the formal report on the conservation status of Abominable Snowmen, though. μηδείς (talk) 18:47, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. [Posted] RD: E. L. Doctorow Article: E. L. Doctorow (talk · history · tag) Recent deaths nomination (Post) News source(s): New York Times, BBC, Vanity Fair, Time Credits: Nominated by Abductive (talk · give credit) Updated by Guat6 (talk · give credit) Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. Nominator's comments: Famous. Abductive (reasoning) 01:48, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose solely for some referencing issues. Would support if references were fixed, clearly important enough to his field and a recognizable name. --Jayron32 01:55, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support RD conditional on article improvement. Clearly rings the RD bell. (Oppose blurb if one is proposed.) -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:51, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support on article improvements Subject is notable, but needs more sourcing and the lead is short. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Conditional Support. Definitely notable - but the article is in need of a lot of work. Challenger l (talk) 05:01, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose article is woefully under-referenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:08, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support. Widely known and respected U.S. novelist, with the article covering the key facts. --Light show (talk) 03:02, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support: Referencing should be solid now, or at least, I'm not seeing anything glaring that would prevent this from being posted. Notability of the subject is established through critical acclaim, cultural currency, and a boatload of awards and honors. -Kudzu1 (talk) 06:49, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] I've tagged a bunch of completely unreferenced paragraphs in an attempt to help updaters avoid violating BLP. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Those issues appear to have been addressed, and the intro has been significantly expanded. Is there anything at this point that should hold up posting? -Kudzu1 (talk) 07:58, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] No, good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Posted. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] [Posted] RD: Theodore Bikel Article: Theodore Bikel (talk · history · tag) Blurb: No blurb specified (Post) News source(s): New York Times; http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id933 Credits: Nominated by Ihcoyc (talk · give credit) Updated by Light show (talk · give credit), Michael5046 (talk · give credit) and Rothorpe (talk · give credit) Article updated Nominator's comments: Important US actor and folk musician. Strongly identified with the role of Tevye from Fiddler on the Roof. Co-founder of the Newport Folk Festival. And he was Lt. Worf's adoptive dad. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 01:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support on article update/improvements - I think the bar for importance is there (I'm looking at the Austrian medal of honor in the arts as a prime demonstration), but the article is lacking in inline citations and has tense issues. --MASEM (t) 01:23, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose based solely on article quality/referencing inadequacy. Would support if the referencing was brought up to standard, clearly a major figure. --Jayron32 01:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support on article improvements Subject is notable. I'll work on the article tomorrow. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:14, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] *Support. Article looks clearly sourced now - definitely both well-known and remembered as well as influential. Challenger l (talk) 05:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose article is under-referenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:09, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support – Long, distinguished career; influential in music, film and theater. (Target article now contains 41 refs.) Sca (talk) 13:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] It's never the absolute number of refs, you know that. BLPs need all claims that are contentious, such as marriages, children, releases etc, to be cited. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Support there are a few claims which need references, the primary sources which name an episode or album, and the tv show or publisher and date are primary sources. I have hidden a few items that say he was uncredited--those need sources. The man himself was important in three fields, acting, singing/voice, and activism. μηδείς (talk) 20:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Comment just claiming that a source isn't needed because a "title", "publisher" etc are supplied is entirely inadequate for a BLP. More sources are required if those claims remain in the article. There seems little doubt that the individual is notable, it's just that his article is full of unreferenced and unverifiable claims, despite other opinions. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Comment – Two refs to NYT obit added. Sca (talk) 20:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Great, if you can address the remaining unreferenced and unverifiable material, we're good to go. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:01, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] There are six unrefed entries in the discography, out of 40. At this point my inclination would be to delete them. Sca (talk) 21:55, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Three remaining unrefed discography items deleted; marked as ready. Sca (talk) 23:47, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] Posted not perfect, but good enough. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:12, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] References Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process. For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents: