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Have you used any prior account on Wikipedia? I'm thinking User:Ledenierhomme and his various socks. nableezy - 19:27, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I did at some stage, about 2-3 years ago, but I forgot what the username was, and I got a new laptop, so I created this one recently. I'm flattered, I'm sure, but why so curious? This User:Ledenierhomme you speak of, is he your White Whale? EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 19:37, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. Why curious? Because we have a policy that prohibits banned users from creating new accounts. No worries, will lay this out in a sockpuppet investigation if I get annoyed enough. nableezy - 19:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please do, it'll be riveting I'm sure! EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 19:41, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nableezy: his rhetoric sounds so similar, and see this. Beshogur (talk) 19:57, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"rhetoric"? How is simply quoting - from what I can tell is - the leading academic scholarship on this topic, "rhetoric"? And why should it be any surprise to you that in the talk page and in the article Johanson is cited as an authority numerous times? Shouldn't that tell you something Beshogur? EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 20:09, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. nableezy - 20:02, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Damn, you got me! Go on then, nableezy, please be my guest, "lay this out in a sockpuppet investigation". Surely I deserve it for tormenting you all these years! EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 20:05, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Beshogur (talk) 10:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You probably have learned what ANI is since this thread, but if not here's a briefing: Administrator's Noticeboard/Incidents is for receiving help for settling disputes or dealing with users when things need administrator attention, such as moving and protecting pages and other things that regular users don't have the ability to do. It's mainly used for discussing or handling users when they get out of hand and if something is posted there about someone it's usually with the intention of getting them blocked to prevent future problems.

You've been mentioned here most likely not for your contributions of these sources you're discussing on the talk page but rather for failing to WP:AGF and be WP:CIVIL, as well as WP:TEXTWALL. Personally, I think this is a premature discussion, but it could be better off for you not to be too bold that your ideals are the right ones in future discussions, and be open to other opinions and discussing them. Maybe also to be less frank with what you feel, because it's often taken personally by other editors. And while you were also criticized for WP:SPA, I wouldn't stress that. People contribute to topics they like and that's it all the time; would I rather prefer to write about the Paper Mario series a seventh time or decide, "Nah, people might accuse me of SPA, lemme force myself to contribute to some cell strand for the next month"? Panini!^🥪 14:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Panini!:Are you an admin? EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 14:54, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Now isn't that ironic? Panini!^🥪 03:41, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Panini!:Well thanks (I think?) for your input :-) Can you explain to me - what actually happened to that ANI? It's disappeared, and I never heard anything about it again. Is that typical? Reported "incidents" (I still don't know what the incident was) drift into the ether without an admin/s making a ruling? Would that mean there's generally no penalty for filing frivolous "incident reports"? His last one he accused me of being a sockpuppet (three people on two separate articles have done that - is that also typical on WP?), disruptive editor, and "Also he's definitely not here to build an encyclopedia, (wp:nothere), by his editing rethoric+talk page contributions." Days have gone past, and he still hasn't specified any objections to my edits: only insults and accusations, and complaints that I write too many words on Talk. What I really mean, is it safe to just ignore him at this point?

I clicked on this contributions, can see what his game is, but I can't see that he adds much to the project, or has the degree of competence nor expertise required to meaningfully contribute to his pet subject area.

For example, I clicked here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Benlittlewiki#Arab_name_on_Murad_V

And it's apparent he can't read Ottoman Turkish or even recognize the Ottoman Turkish alphabet, perhaps not even able to differentiate between it and the Arabic alphabet. When I attempted to point out that in the article Murad V's "Ottoman Turkish" written name in the first line was in fact his written name in Arabic, his reply was: "It's the infobox. I mean Arabic alphabet. Sorry for misunderstand."................... what?

And this guy is policing my contributions on linguistics? EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 08:21, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

EnlightenmentNow1792, the discussion was automatically archived by a bot due to lack of activity, but you can still view the discussion here. When a discussion has been automatically archived, usually someone will pull it back into mainspace if they feel it hasn't garnered enough attention on the matter. It's been a couple of days, so I wouldn't stress too much about it. There's a pattern in ANI discussions that usually fall within three categories:

1. Reports of vandalism, trolling, or other urgent requests that is solved immediately and archived.
2. Discussions that are premature or the user who was reported is acting in good faith with some faults. Normally people emphasize that what they're doing is wrong, but after a couple of slaps on the back of the head administrator action isn't required, or at least not at the moment.
3. Probems that have good arguments for both sides and get extremely complicated. Usually they lead to no consensus and everyone moves on, but sometimes its outsourced to something beyond ANI.

I think you fall into category two here, but that doesn't mean you should take the ANI with a grain of salt: avoid satire such as the comments you were called out for there. When I first joined I used satire often, and frankly, things didn't go too well. Besides, comments such as "you are a complete novice in this field" may be viewed poorly (some people might take it personally) and people won't take your proposals seriously, although what you're saying is accurate. And TEXTWALLing is never a good thing; it's most likely difficult to summarize into something minimal considering the size of the topic, so using the templates {{Collapse top|Title of table}} and {{Collapse bottom}} could help condense references and other large explanations you may have. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables for more. Panini!^🥪 13:56, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'll have to learn how to do all that formatting/styles/tables caper. Ugh... I hated computer programming at school! Cheers man. EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 14:50, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are not improving Wikipedia or following its AGF policy by mass-reverting my edits with edit summaries such as

• "Same user back again trying to portray this fringe figure as a notable journalist, who's never been cited as an authority by a RS even once in his decades-long "career" as a journalist. WP:NOT RESUME"

• "removing all the CV-like embellishments added by a single account - either sourced to non-RS or approx a decade out-of-date"

If you consider me a problem editor, the place to discuss that is ANI, not your edit summaries. I think most people, looking at my edit history and userpage, would notice that I am a boring wikignome with a boring interest in biographies and NPOV.

Pepe Escobar is a (barely) notable journalist. Like any bio, his article should give our readers information based on RS about his work. That is not the same thing as turning his article into a WP:RESUME. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:04, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]