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Salgo60, thank you so much for accepting my suggestion of seeking consensus for the use of this template, which I've just deleted. I hope it was clear to you – as it was to me – from the various discussions that the problem was with the quality of the data rather than the deployment of the template itself; I'd have said so in those discussions if I'd known that they were taking place. I also hope that you are not too disappointed at the final outcome. I'm not much of a barnstar sort of person, but if I was I'd be leaving you one. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:55, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Justlettersandnumbers: update I think what we see is that Europeana has enormous problems sending around more than text than same as I have an dialogue with the Europeana people but I feel that > 3000 museums doesnt have the skills of aggregating data and using Linked data saying that my artist in museum A is the same as artist B in museum B

• see blog Carl Larsson who is that - sadly Europeana doesnt know --> #Metadatadebt
• a quality framework of Europeana a person has created were we can see that they dont send coordinates or nearly never same as see Metadata Quality Assurance Framework for Europeana
• a try I do to see if we can help them with the quality data we have in Wikipedia/Wikidata see T251225
• I have also spoken to more museum metadata specialist in Sweden and Norway working at museums delivering quality metadata that they are very disappointed of the quality of Europeana but normally they are "just" metadata specialist and dont understand how Linked data should be sent to Europeana or why its not done
  • also the Europeana network feels missing basic tools like
    • good trackable error reporting
    • you never get a helpdesk id
    • notification/ping if things are fixed or you get get feedback

My conclusion is

1. that a museum network is not technical mature to deliver quality metadata to an aggregated service like Europeana the future will tell if I sadly is correct
2. a museum network has not a culture of change management or communication between museums saying same as
3. an open network like Wikipedia
   1. has engaged users
   2. if something feels wrong most users change it directly and as the platform is open they can change it
   3. there is a culture that Wikipedia article/data needs to be changed to get better and noone/most people are not afraid of challenge another user and many people are doing it
   4. Wikipedia has a history of being able solving problems as same as between 300 wiki languages having interwiki links for nearly all articles and we have developed good tools to support this....

I have a background in delivering IT systems for international money transaction were a change process/communication/helpdesk id always existed. I am convinced that we need better tools and better ways of communicating with organisations delivering external data to Wikipedia. As an organisation with > 3000 museums like Europeana cant do it I guess we need to do it on our side,,, I did yesterday a draft setting up "staging areas" with possibility to track changes/communicate/ping/subscribe on errors/problems between Wikipedia and an external data source... see T251225#6105481 the future will tell if this is possible and if it adds value

- Salgo60 (talk) 05:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Salgo, I wish you very success, this an area where clearly a lot more work needs to be done, though not one where I have any expertise. My opinion: the "anyone can edit" model is profoundly harmful to Wikidata – we have sockpuppets of blocked LTA accounts constantly inserting false or biased data there with impunity. For as long as we go on allowing anyone to insert any data they want, we will be unable to rely in any way on the output. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:31, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Justlettersandnumbers: Interesting keynote this week see tweet Europeana will speak about ""Europeana as a Linked Data (Quality) case" will they speak about "not good enough for en:Wikipedia" ;-) - Salgo60 (talk) 08:31, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I notice you are making changes to many websites of Nobel laureates. The changes you made to Frank Wilczek redirect several different citations to a single non-existent page at the Nobel Prize website. Perhaps you intended to link to basic facts about Wilczek, which are at https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2004/wilczek/facts/ That page then links to multiple other sources of information about Wilczek e.g. the autobiography. I suggest you review your changes to other articles, in case you have created similar problems elsewhere. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@HouseOfChange: Thanks its a bug at the Nobelprize website I will error reports it to them its 6:00 am in Sweden so I assume they will fix it in the next hours. See

• Status error T252093
• What we have done and why T248939 / T251055

Its a new concept they implemented to get rid of a lot of link rot they have created over the years if they cant fix it then yes we need to revert the changes or if we see this approach is unstable, Feels not rocket science to have an redirect.. and at least you dont need to be a Nobel prize winner to do it ;-)

Thanks for reporting it I am waiting for the feedback from the Nobelprize people - Salgo60 (talk) 04:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@HouseOfChange: now it works T252093 let me know if you see more problems - Salgo60 (talk) 13:25, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I tried once again the link you used in Frank Wilczek. I got a different error message: "This site can’t provide a secure connection www.nobelprize.org sent an invalid response." Trying again, that link redirected to the URL https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2004/wilczek/facts/ That page unfortunately it does NOT contain most of the information you cited to your URL. Specifically, a reader needs to find the Nobel autobiography to find support for Wilczek's ethnicity, religious beliefs, names of children, etc. A laureate's biographical page is linked from the "facts" page but in a very obscure way, from a dropdown menu of the word "More." So if you want to use the new Nobel website method to link to the "Facts" page for each laureate, that is fine. But you should not replace working links to biographical material with links to page that does not include that biographical information, IMO. Most articles of Nobel laureates draw heavily from their Nobel autobiographies. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:14, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@HouseOfChange: Try tro scroll down www.nobelprize.org/laureate/778 see video. I have mentioned to the Nobelprize web developers that people dont find those parts easy. As a "workaround" I mention the Nobel lecture is included....- 15:25, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good grief, you are right -- there is a lot more if you keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling down the page. And the URL changes as you go. What a monster of poor usability practice. I still think our readers are better served by a separate link to the biography URL for biographical information. It seems premature to apply a template across many different pages to this novel effort, hopefully still in progress, at NobelPrize.org. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@HouseOfChange: The problem is that Nobelprize web has a history of changing URLs and most places I have changed was because link rot (guess > 70%)....

• can we change the template to add something like (scroll down)
• I will feedback Nobelpeople once more that the design could be improved.
  • I feel they have more sections and after every section there is a "footer Learn more" that maybe just add confusion
  • my feeling is that they have some more or less standard sections Facts, Biographical section, Nobel Lecture maybe we could get direct links to them like https://www.nobelprize.org/laureate/778#NobelLecture
• One odd thing I have found is thet we have much more link rot in en:Wikipedia than in sv:WIkipedia maybe we Swedish people are more concerned about a Swedish institution like Nobelprize or that the Swedish articles are shorter and its easier to control

- Salgo60 (talk) 16:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- I like your idea of direct links to sections of that page, if you think that "778" thing will be stable. HouseOfChange (talk) 16:21, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

yes the 778 is stable protected with dynamite ;-) its in the API. If the linking is stable we will see my understanding it was some config file that was wrong deployed that created this mornings problems that should now be stable - Salgo60 (talk) 03:01, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please obtain consensus according to WP:BRD before making further edits to Nobel Prize winner pages and revert your previous edits. If you cannot edit according to Wikipedia conventions you could have your editing access restricted. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:52, 11 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

There is more of this nature at Talk:Lars Onsager. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:17, 12 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

The many "skbl" links you've been adding to the articles on royal women go to texts where there are quite a few problems with the English language. You might want to be aware of that. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:59, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SergeWoodzing: thanks you are telling me they are not good enough? Best would be if we could get the names of the articles and can give feedback to the SKBL people - Salgo60 (talk) 20:02, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A form for feedback to SKBL - Salgo60 (talk) 20:04, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've been putting a reply together to the question you asked. I would say that they are understandable, but would love to see more careful English. There is no such possessive as " Magnus' ", for example, and "She is sometimes" is a very common variety of Swenglish where "Sometimes she is..." would be normal, smooth English. The term "morning gift" is also a Swenglishism (two-word dictionary translation) for Dower. And so on. I don't know if it's fair to complain also about too many personal opinions, unsubstantiated by independent sources, such as the old-fashioned claim that "there is no proof that this is an actual depiction of the queen", which runs contrary to the research of such experts as Professor Svanberg, and just as well could read "there is no proof that this is not an actual depiction of the queen". --SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:17, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SergeWoodzing: thanks my understanding is that this is a work of the University of Gothenburg and the ambition is high. We have another Swedish project from the National Archive called SBL they started in 1918 and are slowly delivering new articles Dictionary of Swedish National Biography ID (P3217) but just about 6% of the delivered articles are about women so I guess this project is a "reaction". I will also try to give them some feedback it looks like the translator is lingualexy. I feel the intention with the project is excellent and important but I would like to see better use of sources and also Linked data so we easier could check Wikidata and SKBL see my try using Jupyter Notebook getting Wikidata and SKBL in synch (in Swedish) - Salgo60 (talk) 20:33, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

With your excellent & constructive attitude I'm sure your input there will be of value. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:37, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We will see ;-) my thought is how complex will the new project Abstract Wikipedia be create a language-independent version of Wikipedia ... - Salgo60 (talk) 20:45, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Salgo60,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Svenskt kvinnobiografiskt lexikon for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source, probably infringing copyright.

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Bensci54 (talk) 16:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bensci54 other people are helping me with that so its on the way... - Salgo60 (talk) 17:01, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bensci54, the lexicon seems to be licensed with a CC BY 4.0 license. At least, that's what it says on https://skbl.se/en/about-skbl That may apply to the copied text,but I don't see anything apart from the link, explicitly saying so. It's perhaps best to rewrite the paragraph. Vexations (talk) 21:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thanks we are moving in that direction some more native english speaking people will help me - Salgo60 (talk) 03:52, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]