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I note that the Trump/Fox news support is not mentioned in the article - something I've wondered about for some time. I don't watch FOX but when one sees many of the Fox and Friends clips it is quite stunning. Clearly Trump sees Fox as his very own news outlet and FOX has certainly acted in similar manner. Today reading this CNN comment re the relationship, "'We have to start looking for a new News Outlet,' [Trump] tweeted on Wednesday, inadvertently lending credence to critics' claims that Fox is akin to state-run TV." State-run TV --like Russia and China? I wonder if we should put something in the article? Gandydancer (talk) 19:24, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! Well I guess not then... All's well that ends well - I trust group consensus. Gandydancer (talk) 05:30, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Gandydancer: Presidency_of_Donald_Trump#Leadership_style_and_philosophy and perhaps it should also go into Presidency_of_Donald_Trump#Relationship_with_the_media ... like so: [1] starship.paint (talk) 01:45, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

mmmm no, not them alone nor minute trivia. WP shouldn’t be inserting multiple notes of every one-off Trump tweet out there, or selecting just one part of media for scrutiny — particularly not bits of low WEIGHT, not involving real-world events, and not involving Presidency items. A Fox event or RS characterisation might suit, but only as part of NPOV coverage for media in DUE weight. Maybe try having Relationship with the Media section include the other half of press relationships- how the press behaves. Could be some mention of noted general press hostility and multiple events in their behaviour. Right now the article portrays a Trump mention of 91% negative coverage as if it is fake - there is no neutral note that yes, multiple studies noted coverage has been 90%+ negative, starting from before his nomination thru now, nor does the article have any reflection on how extensive and continuous coverage has been. Possibly some mention of Press Secretary and briefings, including discontinuation or limitations. Possibly include mention of NYT was bullied into retracting a headline, or other items of WEIGHT. But no reason to promote a lone tweet above what it is DUE. Cheers Markbassett (talk) 03:56, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm moving the Whistleblower complaint from the Foreign Policy section to a new subsection of the Ethics section, plus dequotify it and start streamlining a bit.

It's a decent first draft collection of bits, I think it could use some further work on what is there --

• Cites need dates and other fixing, should be at what part they support, and should be something less than 10 cites per paragraph.
• But do some prior citing - this was a story back during Obama, so cite there; and a story a couple months ago, so cite there.
• Additional streamlining of the step-by-day-by-step accumulated progression to cut out some steps and more to summary.
• At least briefly label what a Hunter Biden investigation is alleged to be about. (e.g. He got a directorship with a Ukrainian corporation when Vice-President Biden was involved with Ukraine and Ukrainian aid... is a bit overlong.)
• Probably skip Money-for-investigation allegation, as would Ukraine foreign minister has denied that.
• Just the facts -- skip any wild speculations or emoting for the cameras
• Eventually shrink it to DUE amount -- right now it is story of the week, not seeing anything necessarily more to come, and whatever might come will be additions that make some of this lengthy prologue bits unnecessary.

Cheers Markbassett (talk) 02:20, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update: We Found a “Staggering” 281 Lobbyists Who’ve Worked in the Trump Administration; That’s one lobbyist for every 14 political appointees, and four times more than Obama had appointed six years into office. by David Mora, Columbia Journalism Investigations October 15, 2019: a ref addition? X1\ (talk) 00:38, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seems UNDUE - an esoteric statistic from a relative unknown author in a small pub. And it has not been out long so has no time to accumulate importance. Cheers Markbassett (talk) 03:40, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]