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Hello, this is in reference to the edit request I submitted here.
I'm not entirely sure how and with whom to build a consensus. I was under the impression that I had laid out a reasoned case, and that the same page could be used to iron out differences with other editors. But I'm missing something about the process?
Kkiddu (talk) 20:31, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- As someone else had already denied the full edit the onus is on you to argue convincingly for inclusion, especially when you're using edit requests. Any edits we make based on a request we're taking ownership of, so the likelihood of an edit being done after someone denies part of it is pretty low unless you can make a clear and concise case. To be honest, the easiest way to get complex edits done is to edit with your account until you meet the editing threshold for protection. As RandomCanadian had already answered and I didn't see anything that was clear enough to me to make the edit I just closed out the request. Discussion about the edit can still take place with the request closed. If you need any further clarification feel free to ask. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:39, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks - I do still think that my request is justified, and that shouldn't require me to make a certain number of edits if I'm willing to work and establish consensus. Requesting feedback on the appropriate course now:
- 1. I do think that I made my case clearly and concisely. The initial "denial" just did not address the "factual error" aspect of my request.
- 2. I refined my proposed edit after that, increasing its scope, after which you denied it. I think reusing the same request section might have been confusing, I just wanted to preserve context.
- 3. I've created a section here for discussion on the edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2020%E2%80%932021_Indian_farmers%27_protest#Discussion_Request,_re:_events_of_Jan_26 - I hope other editors will pitch in there too.
- I understand the contentiousness of this particular topic, but the (well-meaning) protections mean that a rather poor version of the issue has become ossified. I'm not familiar with the processes in such a situation, and I'm ending up finding it all a little bureaucratic. Kkiddu (talk) 21:21, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Kkiddu, I'll take a closer look in a few days, but for the time being I'm phone editing and doing anything complex, even comparing and checking sources, is about as fun as walking barefoot across black asphalt on a sunny summer day. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:43, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Thanks, I appreciate it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Kinggibbon (talk) 15:55, 11 May 2021 (GMT) Hello ScottishFinnishRadish, I believe you were incorrect to remove my edit on grounds of promotion as the playlist that was already on the page only had a limited amount of songs despite it stating it had most of the songs available. I updated it to more populated playlists that I had found.
- Kinggibbon, you added an external link to spotify as well. An encyclopedia isn't a place for links to people's curated playlists. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:01, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
About an edit request at Talk:Turkish War of Independence
Greetings! You replied to an edit request at Talk:Turkish War of Independence made by Erennica. That user has attempted to remove the request.
Do you have any objections to its removal? Since it's a new user, I see no harm to the history of discussion by allowing them to withdraw the whole thread. However, that involves deleting a comment by you, and I don't want to do that without your consent.
Please reply here and let me know if it's okay. —C.Fred (talk) 16:09, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- C.Fred, no objections on my end. Thanks for checking. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:12, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Encyclopedias don't use billed information?
Then why are this one's infobox parameters specifically designed to explicitly display "Billed height" and "Billed weight" to its readers? And if WWE.com is unreliable for Batista's widely-accepted inflated stats, why does pretty much every "big" name use it around here? Triple H, Randy Orton, Ric Flair...wrestlers evolve into "Superstars" all the time, trust me, I've seen things. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps Scotland's own Drew McIntyre can better convince you it's cool and healthy and normal. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:18, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- InedibleHulk, the problem I see with the billed height and billed weight is that the vast majority of readers don't know there's some internal Wikipedia meaning behind those words. The person who opened that edit request said it came to Bautista's attention because someone interviewing him used that as his actual height. That said I'm not really invested in the whole situation, so I won't revert if you edit again. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:36, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cool. I just stumbled across it myself, wasn't aware it would even become a legit situation, glad to move on! But I think "billed" is pretty standard English in North America, at least, raising the same general doubts disclaimers like "reported" or "claimed" might (could be wrong). InedibleHulk (talk) 11:01, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think the only reason t there was any hint of a situation is because someone claiming to be Bautista's manager/childhood friend made an edit request. That's actually how I found the page, patrolling edit requests. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:28, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Aye, the discrepancy between actual hometown and "billed from" is a relatively major snafu. Lot of guys from Parts Unknown or weirder out there (in-universe), can't conflate character traits like that with basic early life data. Stone Mountain, Death Valley and The Outer Reaches of Your Mind just make for better innuendo than Gainesville, Houston or Long Island; wrestling bios should and do include both, labeled appropriately. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:39, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think the only reason t there was any hint of a situation is because someone claiming to be Bautista's manager/childhood friend made an edit request. That's actually how I found the page, patrolling edit requests. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:28, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cool. I just stumbled across it myself, wasn't aware it would even become a legit situation, glad to move on! But I think "billed" is pretty standard English in North America, at least, raising the same general doubts disclaimers like "reported" or "claimed" might (could be wrong). InedibleHulk (talk) 11:01, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Fun Fact? The editor who seemingly came up with the modifier "billed" was named HamishMacBeth. Not sounding that North American to me! Could be wrong, though. Roddy Piper was no true Scot, after all. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- InedibleHulk, he may not have been a Scot, but he did bring Hell to Frogtown. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:55, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Made that Yank Keith David put on the glasses, too! InedibleHulk (talk) 10:59, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Why did you remove my changes from Lisa Nowak? The changes were correct.
- Because stronger sources list her as being dismissed, and that is official terminology. Your other frequent vandalism doesn't help either. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
I apologize for the vandalism as that's other people at my school. Also how do you go about being a Wikipedia moderator, just curious?
- One can become an administrator through essentially a vote of users. WP:RFA is the page for it. If you're interested in editing I suggest you create an account. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
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Need help to edit Kulala page
Hi,
Hope you are doing good.
Can you please modify below content in Kulala page?
X/ The traditional occupation of Kulala people is making pottery, although in the present day their occupations also include government service and wage-labour.
Y/Kulala people are called artisan and they make potterys and idols.Also they have involved in trading.
X/ Kumhar
Y/pottery - best related topic than kumhar
Proof that they were called as Artisian: https://www.setufairtrade.com/artisans/pottery
Let me know if you need any additional details.
Thanks Tamilan pugal (talk) 16:00, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- Tamilan pugal, I don't think your suggested prose is an improvement, and setufairtrade.com isn't a reliable source. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:36, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Sure. How about this below article. Did you get a chance to check that?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342152556_Pottery_production_and_trades_in_Tamil_Nadu_region_new_insights_from_Alagankulam_and_Keeladi_excavation_sites Tamilan pugal (talk) 17:03, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don't disagree that they traditionally made pottery, and that is covered in the article. There's also an issue with the quality of your writing. I can tell English isn't your first language, which isn't a problem as you seem to read and write English better than I do any other language, but it's not quite up to snuff for an encyclopedia article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:10, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
This article clearly mentioned that Kulala(potters) has involved in trading. Can you please update that atleast? And remove the statement says their current status is government service and wage. Which is not true and there is no reliable sources. Tamilan pugal (talk) 17:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your speedy reply. If you dont disagree that they traditionally made pottery means, why there is below sentence where in article Kulala?
- The traditional occupation of Kulala people is making pottery, although in the present day their occupations also include government service and wage-labour***
You can delete those sentence from the article (Kulala) right? Tamilan pugal (talk) 17:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's sourced, so I'm hesitant to remove it. It's saying they're still primarily potters, but their occupations can also include government service or working a regular wage labor job. What is your objection to this? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:22, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
These are below articles which is shown an as reliable article
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=g9MVAQAAMAAJ
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_NMUAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA7#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://books.google.co.in/books?id=aqrB_Nzr5QcC&redir_esc=y
Can you please show me single word that potter are belongs to Kulala.
I beleive that you are not based of India. North Indian and south indian culture is totally different. Don't get confused.
Article which is mentioned as a reliable source only be relate kumhar caste in North India.
Here south india , potters are identified as Kulala (tamil nadu, Andhra Pradesh, Kerala , Andhra Pradesh)
Below are official caste list of india government.
http://www.bcmbcmw.tn.gov.in/bclist.html
https://bcdd.kerala.gov.in/communities/state-obc-list/
http://www.ncbc.nic.in/user_panel/GazetteResolution.aspx?Value=mPICjsL1aLvYBtdZSrP4uO%2bploAhiJHMALWmHIwbzS8Il37YLL3Fb0FHfWDHzP7c Tamilan pugal (talk) 18:46, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- I still don't understand what objection you're making. You'd rather have them called artisans that make pottery rather than potters? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
The problem is ,content which is returned in the article is something related to North Indian potters. For your reference kumhar(North Indian potters) wiki page already created. Please dont get confused that potter community in india are same. Tamilan pugal (talk) 18:54, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes that's correct sir. My obligations is to mention Kulala caste people as a Artisian.
Also please delete the sentence,**their occupations can also include government service or working a regular wage labor job**.
Tamilan pugal (talk) 19:03, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
I have given all my proof sir. Kindly update those details. Tamilan pugal (talk) 19:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/articles/vizag-potters-idols-of-clay-immersion-in-debt/
Tamilan pugal (talk) 19:33, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
The reasons why I am saying Kulala people are artisan is they will make both clay pots and idols of god. Tamilan pugal (talk) 19:34, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
In india we are trusting that article which is mentioned in the Wikipedia are 100% true.
So kindly provide the reliable information in the Kulala page.
If you still hesitate to add my sentence in the page better you can delete below information from the page. Because there is no proof (reliable article) Kulala people are traditionally potters.
X/The traditional occupation of Kulala people is making pottery, although in the present day their occupations also include government service and wage-labour.
Y/
I will wait for your positive response. Tamilan pugal (talk) 20:21, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- You should not expect that articles are 100% true anywhere, especially Wikipedia. As it stands I won't be making that change. From the last source you provided,
His wife, S. Satyawati, 38, has persisted with pottery. “Pottery is our kula vruthi [caste occupation] and has provided at least a little income,” she says. “I have no education, I only know how to make pots, diyas and idols.
, and from our own article on Pottery,Pottery is the process and the products of forming vessels and other objects with clay
. I think the article is sourced well enough, and clear enough where your suggested change would not be an improvement. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:22, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- You should not expect that articles are 100% true anywhere, especially Wikipedia. As it stands I won't be making that change. From the last source you provided,
That makes sense. Atleast remove the below sentence from the article.
although in the present day their occupations also include government service and wage-labour**
Approx 1cr Kulala people living in south india. Do you think everyone are wage labour?
If you add "present day" in the article we have to give a current status of Kulala people right?
In india all caste/communities has reservation in education & government jobs. I believe you were aware about that?
Present day this community well educated and organised.
There are doctors , engineers, software developer and government employees from this community.
But that particular sentence potrait them as a poor people.
Why can't you remove that particular sentence? Tamilan pugal (talk) 17:43, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Facts of Human rights violation
Unfortunately, the continuous edits from "ScottishFinnishRadish" are intended to eliminate backed up facts presented in the lines: "The SFC has been also criticised for the extrajudicial abductions, tortures, disappearances and killings on political opposition[5][6]. In this regard, Lt. Gen. Muhoozi Kainerugaba has been cautioned by the ICC[7]." It lies withinin the public interest and the interest of the Human rights that this fact stays reflected at wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UgandaH (talk • contribs) 20:01, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- UgandaH, I kept that content in the article, I just moved it from the lead. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:03, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Myles Moylan
Hi again,
I'm probably not posting this in the correct place - I'm sure it hasn't escaped your attention that I have difficulty negotiating these pages. Thankfully I'm better at researching! Is it possible to add the following references to Galway as Myles's place of birth rather than what is there now?
https://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/citations3.html#M
U.S., Army Register of Enlistments, (1798-1914)
BuffyO'B (talk) 19:09, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- I added that source for the born in Ireland statement. Thanks for finding it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:16, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank's for that. I appreciate it and I appreciate the other changes that you made. Is there any chance that you would post the marriage record for Thomas Moylan and Margaret Reilly? The record is from the parish of Tuam and is available on the National Library of Ireland website [1] - it's eight down on the left-hand side.BuffyO'B (talk) 21:18, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
- BuffyO'B, I'll look into it in a couple days. Stuck mobile editing for now, which is basically the same as hitting your thumb with a hammer. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:21, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
I know what you mean! If you decide to use the reference it might be as well to pinpoint it on the page - 8th down on the LHS or Dec 14th - it's soul-destroying trying to read those parish records! By the way, I was wondering why the reference to his Galway birth is simply "Myles Moylan was born in Galway, Ireland on December 17, 1838" rather than referring to the U.S. Army Register of Enlistments,(1798-1914) which doesn't actually mention his date of birth but places it around 1836/37. As a matter of interest, I tried a Proof by Contradiction - Maths teacher in the real world - on Myles's place of birth. I worked on the assumption that maybe he was born in Amesbury but I could not find any record for his parents or birth of siblings in MA. Two of his older brothers were recorded in West Newbury in 1850 - they emigrated at the height of the Great Hunger. The earliest record I could find for him in America was the 1855 MA Census (which records Ireland as his place of birth). Thanks again for your time, BuffyO'B (talk) 09:15, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- BuffyO'B, I took at a look at that, and since it's a primary source I don't think its really going to add much if we put it in the article. I know the sourcing requirements on Wikipedia seem odd, and they are somewhat, but we specifically don't want people looking at primary sources and interpreting what they mean, i.e. your proof by contradiction. We need to avoid original research, not because your research is bad, but because a lot of the original research people try to insert is very bad, and takes huge amounts of editor time and effort to verify or disprove such research, and often without expertise it can't be adequately researched anyway. Again, this isn't to disparage your own research, but it's a blanket rule on Wikipedia. I feel there are probably some book sources that cover his place of birth, and the confusion caused by his providing different birth locations at different times. If we can find those they would be the best types of sources to use in the article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:00, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
We can agree on one thing - the sourcing requirements on Wikipedia are certainly a bit odd! I can see now that even if I produced a Baptismal record it's not what you want. Americans believe Myles is one of theirs and the people of Tuam know he is one of theirs and give out about Americans claiming him but nobody has written a book about it, as far as I know. I have addressed it in the Journal of the Old Tuam Society article which won't be published until November. Will that qualify as an acceptable secondary source? It won't be available to read online - hard copy only. I could also address it in the Tuam Herald after the article is published but I know that the 1876 article in the Tuam Herald connecting Myles to Thomas Moylan and Margaret Reilly from Tuam wasn't acceptable before. I don't think I would be up to writing a book! Anyway, there are enough websites out there to alert a good researcher to the fact that there is a question over his place of birth and if they follow the same path as I did it will lead them to Tuam. Thanks again.BuffyO'B (talk) 19:43, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry I couldn't help more, but at least now the article does state that there is disagreement in sources as to his birth place, rather than stating Massachusetts with certainty. And I know the requirements seem odd, but trust me that the sourcing requirements are a lot better than anyone being able to do their own research on any topic and publish it to Wikipedia. Although we lose some good content because of the sourcing rules we keep out far more cruft and dross. Also, I know there are books that discuss this, I just don't have access to them, such as They Rode with Custer or this which says he's from Massachusetts of Irish descent, but doesn't state where he was born in the available snippet. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:56, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks anyway. Before I leave you in peace, I’ll take one last shot at it - for now. An article appeared in the Tuam Herald on 17th December 1994. Its title was “A Tuam Man at the Little Bighorn”. I’m just picking a few relevant bits out of the article:
“The connection (to the Little Bighorn) is through Major Myles Moylan, a native of Tuam….”.
“I have traced the career of Major Myles Moylan of the US Army 1857 to 1893, who was born at Mall House, The Mall, Tuam circa 1839”. The "I" is a descendant of Myles, obviously not a direct one.
“Moylan was a cousin of Conor O’Kelly, Claremorris (1873 – 1915) the first chairman of Mayo County Council, 1898 – 1908, MP for North Mayo 1900-1910, and secretary of the Irish Parliamentary Party 1905-1907. Moylan’s nephew was the exceptional Tuam born Brother Michael Titus Moylan, Superior General of the Christian Brothers, died 1906”. Brother Michael Titus was a son of John Moylan, Myles’s brother who was mentioned in the 1876 Tuam Herald article. Br Michael Titus was the grandson of Thomas Moylan and Margaret Reilly – the paperwork is there. I take it that the article in the Journal of the Old Tuam Society isn't what you want either. BuffyO'B (talk) 06:33, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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who have u the authority to comment on ram setu wiki page? dont interfere in our matters if u are ignorant on that topic GauravMaP (talk) 10:14, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- GauravMaP, I have to be honest, I have no idea what you're talking about. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:40, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think it's the common argument made by many Indians that non-Indians "have no right to comment" on issues related to India. Gaurav is, I think, referring to Adam's Bridge and the move requests there. @GauravMaP: Please do not be rude. Kind regards, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 09:29, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, yes. I have to assume Adam's Bridge is the WP:COMMONNAME in english, since there is an existing consensus to keep it at that name. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:16, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think it's the common argument made by many Indians that non-Indians "have no right to comment" on issues related to India. Gaurav is, I think, referring to Adam's Bridge and the move requests there. @GauravMaP: Please do not be rude. Kind regards, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 09:29, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
exactly....still u decided to write a reply on the page "adam's bridge"... GauravMaP (talk) 13:12, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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There seems to be legitimate confusion about how this company currently names itself, so I do not see that particular edit as vandalism. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:06, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Cullen328, in on mobile right now trying to revert the edits, so I was just using the rvv function in redwarn. It seems pretty clear the edits are intended either as vandalism or cover for sneaky vandalism. If you'd like I can stop. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:09, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- I fo not object to the revert but please don't label any edit as vandalism unless it is unambiguously vandalism. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:20, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Does intention factor into an edit being vandalism? Their earlier account was blocked indef for block evasion after your initial block, and 80 percent of the edits were subtle vandalism with a few correct or questionable for cover. Would that qualify the totality of the edits as vandalism? I did switch to using rollback for the edits that were just bad rather than intentional misinformation or vandalism, but the extra effort didn't seem worth it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:26, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Each individual edit should be evaluated on its merits and it is possible for an editor to make some edits that are vandalism and others that aren't. Subtle vandalism complicates matters and often it is difficult for an editor who isn't fully conversant with the topic to say for sure. But edits can be reverted for being unreferenced or dubious or not an improvement. In my view, it is best to reserve the vandalism label for unambiguous vandalism. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:42, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't disagree, but on mobile it's difficult to write out full edit summaries and such, and I didn't want all of the subtle problems introduced to be edited over, making three work of removing it a degree of magnitude more difficult than just hitting the revert button. In the future I'll strive to use regular reverts and leave edit summaries. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- I do 99%+ of my editing on Android smartphones (including now) and only use a desktop computer to edit image files. I use the fully functional desktop site on my phone. You might consider that as well. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:28, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't disagree, but on mobile it's difficult to write out full edit summaries and such, and I didn't want all of the subtle problems introduced to be edited over, making three work of removing it a degree of magnitude more difficult than just hitting the revert button. In the future I'll strive to use regular reverts and leave edit summaries. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Each individual edit should be evaluated on its merits and it is possible for an editor to make some edits that are vandalism and others that aren't. Subtle vandalism complicates matters and often it is difficult for an editor who isn't fully conversant with the topic to say for sure. But edits can be reverted for being unreferenced or dubious or not an improvement. In my view, it is best to reserve the vandalism label for unambiguous vandalism. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:42, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Does intention factor into an edit being vandalism? Their earlier account was blocked indef for block evasion after your initial block, and 80 percent of the edits were subtle vandalism with a few correct or questionable for cover. Would that qualify the totality of the edits as vandalism? I did switch to using rollback for the edits that were just bad rather than intentional misinformation or vandalism, but the extra effort didn't seem worth it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:26, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- I fo not object to the revert but please don't label any edit as vandalism unless it is unambiguously vandalism. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:20, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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Edit requests
Hi. A couple of thoughts. Edit requests are sometimes difficult areas; perhaps you may want to wait until you have more than half a year experience to delve into them. Also, if you state that something has to be done, it is helpful if you point to a wikipedia rule basis - as it is not enough to make up a basis, and if you do not point to one it may be that people do not divine what you are thinking is a basis. Cheers. --2603:7000:2143:8500:98A6:314:E179:7800 (talk) 04:46, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- As far as a Wikipedia rule basis,
Editing restrictions for new editors: All IP editors, accounts with fewer than 500 edits, and accounts with less than 30 days tenure are prohibited from editing any page that could be reasonably construed as being related to the Arab–Israeli conflict.
Perhaps you may want to establish an account and get the extended confirmed bit if you'd like to make edits to that topic area. Any edit request that may be contentious is generally denied. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:53, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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Edit request
Hi, You called my attention to the fact that I made some changes to the page for Robert Ehrlich (physicist) that were not backed up by any references. The changes I made involved adding a Chinese translation for one of the published books (What if? : mind-boggling science questions for kids). The documentation showing that such a translation exists can be found at this page: https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n82251594/
- You'd have to show me a diff to refresh my memory about the edit. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:41, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Edit request
Hello, The matter written in, about padmshalis caste in the page is wrong and a citation of a book which is not even a reliable source and is not even an Indian. Shudras are not allowed inside temples. Padmshalis are allowed so they are not shudras. This community is not popular so its not present on the internet. There are few websites from community which are reliable. I hope you will help with this. We can talk here and figure out and I will explain you the facts. AmericanCake (talk) 19:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- AmericanCake, any discussion about this should take place on the article talk page. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Kaaba
I like the way you did the protected edit request at Kaaba. The word "pagan" should never have been there and the relevance of Christianity was not obvious. We don't do upticks but have one anyway. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:55, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- John Maynard Friedman, thanks, I appreciate it, but I'm pretty sure I copied the requested edit wholesale. Mkneubert should get the credit for the prose, I just pushed the buttons. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, I thought the deletion of "whether Christian or pagan" was yours but I see I misread it. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:10, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
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serious vandalism of truth in Bengali kayastha wiki article
Hello sir, In bengali kayastha wiki page it is written that Bengali kayasthas are regarded as highest hindu caste in Bengal along with bengali brahmins,but this is completely false.also the given citation regarding this ishu is saying that kayasthas are highest among sat sudras(4th varna of Hinduism).check here citation 3 (p.26) and there is a hell and heaven difference between ranked as highest among sudras (lowest varna in Hinduism) and rank highest among other castes such as Brahmins.So I would like to request you to remove that particular line from that article which is completely false and added by someone who might be wanted to glorify his caste. Gorezka46 (talk) 22:15, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
after I made contact with you a person named EKDALIAN changed the sources but still there is vandalism.
Higher and highest difference
so now a person named EKDALIAN chaged the sources but the vandalism is still there, sources no 3 is saying that kayasthas are dwijas and sources no 4 is saying that alongside brahmins they were the higher castes of bengal.but that doesn't mean they rank qual to brahmins in bengal.brahmins, kshatriya and vaisha all are dwijas but does they rank qual?? and there is a big difference between higher and highest. he is writting everything out of his own POV. please grant me the permission to edit that page.thankn you
- Hey ScottishFinnishRadish, user Gorezka46 seems to be a sock of User:Bengaliwikipro & User:Ashish413, who have been blocked for violating the policies of Wikipedia. I am pretty much sure about this; have been handling such socks since 2013. Hope this helps! Thanks & Regards. Ekdalian (talk) 15:51, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
hello MR EKDALIAN I appreciate that you corrected that article according to the provided sources.and stop calling me a sock,I would also appreciate that. Gorezka46 (talk) 15:58, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Your recent removal of 2 edit requests at Talk:Nicki Minaj
I noticed you recently deleted 2 somewhat-malformed edit requests at Talk:Nicki Minaj, here & here. Shouldn't they have been archived to Talk:Nicki Minaj/Archive 4 instead? Shearonink (talk) 13:28, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Shearonink, I removed it as trolling. There's a fair amount of trolling around Tom Holland for some reason. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:26, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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Edit you made on Krithi Shetty
Krithi Shetty was born in Tulu speaking family and not Kannada family. Why do you edit without having a source. TuluveRai123 (talk) 13:26, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- TuluveRai123, see the discussion on the talk page. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:28, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hi you denied my edit request on the Richard Sherman page for no WP:RS, I added 3 sources on the WP:RS list and 1 local reporting source (unsure how reputable wikipedia considers that, im new) and marked it un-answered again, could you check it again when you get a chance if someone else didn't get around to it? Thanks! DrDrago1337 (talk) 14:23, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- DrDrago1337, there's a log of open edit requests that gets patrolled fairly regularly, so I'm sure someone will look into it in the near future. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:32, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
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Trevor Moore tweet citation
Hello, you have removed the information regarding Trevor Moore's satirical tweet concerning his death. I believe the information is of interest to the article. How can I reference the information? What state would I need to find the information in for it to be a valid citation? Thank you for keeping the page accurate.
- Please discuss this on the talk page of the article, there is already a discussion on the topic. Also please remember to sign your posts with four tildes ~ so people can see who left the message. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:04, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Chinese/Israeli relations
Hi!
You left a message on my page about how I did not provide a source for Chinese Israeli Relations. My source is reliable, so I am wondering where the confusion lies? It is from the Israel Journal on Foreign Affairs in the direct words of a Chinese diplomat-- so how is this not reliable? Thank you so much!
- Mapleviewicecream, are you talking about this edit? There was no source attached to that addition. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:08, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello, you are absolutely correct, somehow the source did not copy correctly! It is attached [2] Thank you!
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- SPECIFICO, if you think that pointing out to someone that they're bludgeoning an RFC is uncivil, I guess we have different views on civility. I think it's far more uncivil to badger everyone that disagrees with you using the same arguments. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:41, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
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If you believe that I've made personal attacks, or I'm trolling or committing vandalism I'm sure you know where the appropriate noticeboards are. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:53, 29 July 2021 (UTC)- I consider your post in that location a personal attack and trolling. You should familiarize yourself with Discretionary Sanctions and the standards by which they are enforced. Once again, you are free to bring any behavioral concerns to that user's talk page or to file a complaint about him if you feel it's warranted. You may not, however, disrupt an article talk page. Article talk page posts are to be devoted exclusively to article improvement. I will have no further comment here. SPECIFICO talk 15:13, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
- SPECIFICO, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on what constitutes personal attacks and trolling. Have yourself a pleasant day. Nice talking with you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:21, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
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- SPECIFICO, I suggest you also take a peek at that page.
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Edit request
Pls check my request to edit in the talk page of Mercury metal). And is there a IndianSwedishRadish? XD TheRealPJPlayZ (talk) 03:59, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
- TheRealPJPlayZ, I'm not sure what you'd like me to look at about it. You just made a general suggestion that the article be rewritten with less of an America-centric slant. Generally you should be providing the prose you'd like to change, as well as the sourcing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:44, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Edit request for Kolkata wiki page
For Kolkata, it is necessary to change the 3rd image caption Clockwise from top the 3rd image which is mentioned as "Central Business District" has been updated with "Kolkata Gate".
You can verify the same from Kolkata Gate wiki page
Hence as per the image the source should be edited as below where "Central Business District" has been updated with "Kolkata Gate". Kolkata Gate, a new attraction of Kolkata.
| image_caption = Clockwise from top: Victoria Memorial, St. Paul's Cathedral, Kolkata Gate, Rabindra Setu, City Tram Line, Vidyasagar Setu
I tried doing this chnages but has not been accepted by you hence a review requet for you to do the change Mainakchatterjee.tech (talk) 20:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Mainakchatterjee.tech, please put this on the talk page of the article. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:57, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, but the changes I requested is very simple and verified change which I shared the reference. 3rd image caption Clockwise from top the 3rd image which is mentioned as "Central Business District" is actually of "Kolkata Gate" and needs to be updated. Please visit the Kolkata Gate wikipedia page to verify the image. It would be good if you can initiate the changes from your end. Thanks Mainakchatterjee.tech (talk) 06:24, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
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Gotta take my own medicine, I did break 3RR. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:46, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Sir plz remove article mentioned below. Thanks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad...
The link of article I posted upper is totally wrong information about the Islam. He is not a caliph even not a Muslim. Actually they are non muslims Qadianiyat is another relegion they are believers of mirza qadiyani like believers of Jesus are called christions, believers of Moses are called jews like that they are Qadiyani. Please remove this article and these wrong informations from wikepedia.
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Add to Shaviro Bio
The Steven Shaviro bio has been protected because of harassment. I noticed that you've helped clean it up.
Would you mind adding that there's now a letter of support from his professional colleagues that also includes a very different narrative of the events?
Here's a link to the letter: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfh7_6q7ckSEFsWVtykUeDtMdWdCsWTO5jzyz0KxOpd_1H1bg/viewform?usp=sf_link 72.104.127.129 (talk) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Anything that you want included in the article must have secondary sourcing. If secondary sources cover it, I suggest you open an edit request on the article talk page outlining the exact edit you'd like made with the source. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC)