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Mandi Schwartz
[edit]One user keeps trying to start a new section in the article for Mandi Schwartz using the reasoning that she has received more media coverage than Jaden. If that is the case, then shouldn't she have her own article? This article is about Jaden, not his sister, and I believe the information about Mandi should stay in the 'Personal Life' section as it pertains to Jaden. BurienBomber (talk) 14:01, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- I would say that with the coverage before and after her death, Mandi probably meets the requirements for her own article. If the material stays in this article, I think it should be in the 'Personal life' section or retitle that to 'Family'. Canada Hky (talk) 17:09, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that the info in Jaden's 'Personal life' section is sufficient for this article because this article is about Jaden. On the subject of that section- it should be kept as 'Personal life' so more info can be added in the future such as: spouses, children, personal initiatives/charity work, etc… titling it family seems kinda limiting. On the Mandi separate article topic- I'm not sure she is notable under WP:BIO. Is she receiving coverage just because she's the sister of a high profile NHL draft pick? It's really unfortenuate and sad that she passed away but many people die from cancer and are affected by it in Canada, US, and worldwide each year. And also the question, Is she notable for only one event? arises. Those are really debates if an article is created and AfDed but having her own bio section definitely isn't appropriate for this article.Bhockey10 (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think the coverage is more than just her illness / being a sister of a high draft pick. The draft really increased media attention, but the bone marrow drives at Yale and around Saskatchewan were already well under way at that point. I wouldn't say everyone who dies from cancer merits an article, but maybe one who spurs bone marrow / cord blood drives in two countries is. There is almost certainly enough coverage in reliable secondary sources to meet the GNG. Canada Hky (talk) 23:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah that's true. There's coverage from reliable secondary sources and wouldn't be a question. The Gray area is because our culture highly elevates entertainment and sport figures and their close relatives. Culture's notability doesn't have restrictions like Wikipedia. She doesn't fit into any of the notability categories I know of such as athlete, academia, politics, etc... and I don't think she meets the WP:ANYBIO guidelines. She would definitely have an article if the awareness her story and the marrow drives create and/or largely contribute to a cure for cancer. Bhockey10 (talk) 01:42, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think the coverage is more than just her illness / being a sister of a high draft pick. The draft really increased media attention, but the bone marrow drives at Yale and around Saskatchewan were already well under way at that point. I wouldn't say everyone who dies from cancer merits an article, but maybe one who spurs bone marrow / cord blood drives in two countries is. There is almost certainly enough coverage in reliable secondary sources to meet the GNG. Canada Hky (talk) 23:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that the info in Jaden's 'Personal life' section is sufficient for this article because this article is about Jaden. On the subject of that section- it should be kept as 'Personal life' so more info can be added in the future such as: spouses, children, personal initiatives/charity work, etc… titling it family seems kinda limiting. On the Mandi separate article topic- I'm not sure she is notable under WP:BIO. Is she receiving coverage just because she's the sister of a high profile NHL draft pick? It's really unfortenuate and sad that she passed away but many people die from cancer and are affected by it in Canada, US, and worldwide each year. And also the question, Is she notable for only one event? arises. Those are really debates if an article is created and AfDed but having her own bio section definitely isn't appropriate for this article.Bhockey10 (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
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GA Review
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Jaden Schwartz/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: XR228 (talk · contribs) 06:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Riley1012 (talk · contribs) 19:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I will complete a review within one week. -Riley1012 (talk) 19:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. Thanks! XR228 (talk) 19:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @XR228: Sorry for the slight delay, I'll be doing this review later
today... tomorrow. -Riley1012 (talk) 12:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @XR228: Sorry for the slight delay, I'll be doing this review later
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1. Well-written
- Ref. 2 is not needed, the information is already cited in the body.
- Schwartz finished fifth in SJHL scoring with 34 goals and 42 assists in 46 games. Remove the word "with"
- His 47 points was highest on the team. Change to "His 47 points were the highest on the team."
- ...four of his 15 goals were recorded as game-winning goals and five of his goals came on power plays. Add a comma after "game-winning goals"
- The change made as a tribute to his late sister, who wore the number playing hockey at Yale before being diagnosed with leukemia. Add "was" after "change"
- On July 28, 2021, Schwartz was signed by expansion club, the Seattle Kraken, agreeing to a five-year, $27.5 million contract. Add "an" before "expansion"
- Schwartz was born in Melfort, Saskatchewan and grew up in Wilcox, Saskatchewan... Add commas after both "Saskatchewan"s
- and now plays for the Kassel Huskies of the German Deutche Eishockey Liga 2 (DEL2), Add "as of 2024, plays for the..."
2. Verifiable
Passes Copyvio check. Spot check: 5, 6, 14, 18, 21, 24, 29, 31, 35, 37.
- Out longer than expected, he was activated from the injured reserve on March 5. Source?
- He would also play at the World U-17 Hockey Challenge in 2009, with a fourth-place finish. The source given doesn't note they finished fourth.
- More sources are needed for the Awards and Honors section.
- Sportskeeda is considered unreliable per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources
- Refs. 13, 15, and 28 need archived links. I noticed 13 says it's a permanent dead link, is there another source that could be used?
3. Broad
- What happened during his year with the Peoria Rivermen (2012-13)?
- How did he play during the 2014-15 and 2015-16 seasons?
- There's a big gap in information from the 2016 contract until 2019.
4. Neutral
The article is neutral.
5. Stable
The article is stable.
6. Illustrated
The images are free use and have relevant captions.
- Could the image in the Collegiate section be right-aligned?
@XR228: Okay, I've completed the review. My suggestions are in the bullet points. -Riley1012 (talk) 01:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll complete these soon. XR228 (talk) 03:53, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @XR228: any updates? -Riley1012 (talk) 19:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. I just realized it's been more than a week. I have made some, but not all, of the requested changes. I don't mean to make excuses, but, since Monday, I have been participating in a geography competition, which takes up most of my time during the day. I should have your requests completed soon. XR228 (talk) 19:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, I was just wondering. Riley1012 (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Riley1012: I have made the changes. XR228 (talk) 15:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, I was just wondering. Riley1012 (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. I just realized it's been more than a week. I have made some, but not all, of the requested changes. I don't mean to make excuses, but, since Monday, I have been participating in a geography competition, which takes up most of my time during the day. I should have your requests completed soon. XR228 (talk) 19:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @XR228: any updates? -Riley1012 (talk) 19:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)