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Category:Academic institutions formerly affiliated with the University of Calcutta[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:06, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is not how we normally categorize academic institutions and appears to be a WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic - many articles in the category have no mention of Calcutta in the text. This could work as a list - in fact a list would be much better as it could explain when and why each institution is no longer affiliated, but it would be better to create any such list directly from WP:RSs rather than from the current contents of this category. DexDor (talk) 21:23, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hunting lodges in Scotland[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:09, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Two small cats with little chance of growth. Scottish cat contains one article and two redirects. English cat contains three articles. Parent cat contains a single redirect. Related CFD Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 13#Hunting lodges in Wales closed as merge. AusLondonder (talk) 21:17, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Apparently ample room for expansion in the Scottish cat, now containing ten articles, four redirects and arguable scope to add several castles that owe their origins to or are on the site of hunting lodges (e.g. Glamis Castle, Braemar Castle). Mutt Lunker (talk) 17:47, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think many of those new entries have been categorised inappropriately. AusLondonder (talk) 00:12, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Can you elaborate as to which ones and why?
Guessing, if it is on the basis of current usage no longer being as a hunting lodge, there are a lot of mills, factories, churches, schools, not to say castles, in this encyclopedia that would be thus mis-categorised on the basis of no longer being in use for their earlier function. Per above, I was quite conservative in leaving out several buildings whose origins were as hunting lodges but where the structure has changed very significantly since they were put to that use, although I think there may be a case to add these too. I also left out some on shooting estates which are termed lodges but where it was unclear as to whether they were specifically hunting lodges. Having re-checked the list, the only one that I think may possibly be left out in the more conservative definition is Cadzow Castle. In any case, the cat is apparently sufficiently large to be sustainable and there are many hunting lodges in Scotland not currently covered by an article or section thereof that conceivably could be.
I thus Oppose. Mutt Lunker (talk) 10:51, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- I accept that I suggested this in the discussion of the Wales category, but both the targets here seem to have adequate content. I suspect that some of the Scottish cases were built so that the men could have a hunting holiday, but their womenfolk merely had a holiday. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:01, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Purge Redirect to a Lake Article Glas-allt Shiel points to Loch Muick which makes no reference to a hunting lodge, let alone a section that could justify categorizing the redirect. RevelationDirect (talk) 09:37, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Well-spotted; I hadn't clocked the confusion in the Loch Muick article between the lodge at Glas-allt Shiel and it's bothy. Vicky definitely didnae slum it in the latter when she was on her holidays! I've amended the text to make the distinction and make reference to the main structure being the lodge but go ahead and remove the cat if you think the mention too insubstantial or without scope for expansion. Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:21, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To note, I've expanded the mention into a small section of the article: Loch_Muick#Glas-allt_Shiel Mutt Lunker (talk) 15:20, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'm OK with it staying now. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:49, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Palestine[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename all except Category:Abbasid governors of Palestine, Category:Peasants' revolt in Palestine, Category:People of the peasants' revolt in Palestine, Category:Palestine geography stubs‎, and Category:Palestine stubs‎. These five can essentially be considered "no consensus" results here, which will allow for renomination of them in dedicated discussions.

  1. Propose renaming Category:Palestine-related lists to Category:Palestine (region)-related lists
  2. Propose renaming Category:Environment of the Palestine region to Category:Environment of Palestine (region)
  3. Propose renaming Category:Biota of Palestine to Category:Biota of Palestine (region)
  4. Propose renaming Category:Flora of Palestine to Category:Flora of Palestine (region)
  5. Propose renaming Category:Geography of Palestine to Category:Geography of Palestine (region)
  6. Propose renaming Category:Maps of Palestine to Category:Maps of Palestine (region)
  7. Propose renaming Category:Disasters in Palestine to Category:Disasters in Palestine (region)
  8. Propose renaming Category:Natural disasters in Palestine to Category:Natural disasters in Palestine (region)
  9. Propose renaming Category:History of Palestine to Category:History of Palestine (region)
  10. Propose renaming Category:Periods in the history of Palestine to Category:History of Palestine (region) by period (proposed form is more standard form)
  11. Propose renaming Category:Abbasid governors of Palestine to Category:Abbasid governors of Palestine (region)
  12. Propose renaming Category:Peasants' revolt in Palestine to Category:Peasants' revolt in Palestine (region)
  13. Propose renaming Category:People of the peasants' revolt in Palestine to Category:People of the peasants' revolt in Palestine (region)
  14. Propose renaming Category:Religion in Palestine to Category:Religion in Palestine (region)
  15. Propose renaming Category:Christianity in Palestine to Category:Christianity in Palestine (region)
  16. Propose renaming Category:Jews and Judaism in Palestine to Category:Jews and Judaism in Palestine (region)
  17. Propose renaming Category:Works about Palestine to Category:Works about Palestine (region)
  18. Propose renaming Category:Books about Palestine to Category:Books about Palestine (region)
  19. Propose renaming Category:Novels set in Palestine to Category:Novels set in Palestine (region)
  20. Propose renaming Category:American Mormon missionaries in Palestine‎ to Category:American Mormon missionaries in Palestine‎‎ (region)
  21. Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in Palestine to Category:Landmarks in the State of Palestine
  22. Propose renaming Category:World Heritage Sites in Palestine to Category:World Heritage Sites in the State of Palestine
  23. Propose renaming Category:Law enforcement in Palestine to Category:Law enforcement in the State of Palestine
  24. Propose renaming Category:Demographics of Palestine‎ to Category:Demographics of the State of Palestine‎‎
  25. Propose renaming Category:Expatriates in Palestine‎ to Category:Expatriates in the State of Palestine‎‎
  26. Propose renaming Category:Ambassadors to Palestine‎ to Category:Ambassadors to the State of Palestine‎‎
  27. Propose renaming Category:Ambassadors of Kuwait to Palestine‎ to Category:Ambassadors of Kuwait to the State of Palestine‎‎
  28. Propose renaming Category:American expatriates in Palestine‎ to Category:American expatriates in the State of Palestine‎‎
  29. Propose renaming Category:Jordanian expatriates in Palestine‎ to Category:Jordanian expatriates in the State of Palestine‎‎
  30. Propose renaming Category:Labor in Palestine‎ to Category:Labor in the State of Palestine‎‎
  31. Propose renaming Category:Tribes of Palestine‎ to Category:Tribes of the State of Palestine‎‎
  32. Propose renaming Category:Tourist attractions in Palestine‎ to Category:Tourist attractions in the State of Palestine‎‎
  33. Propose renaming Category:National parks in Palestine‎ to Category:National parks in the State of Palestine‎‎
  34. Propose renaming Category:Palestine geography stubs‎ to Category:State of Palestine geography stubs‎‎
  35. Propose renaming Category:Palestine stubs‎ to Category:State of Palestine stubs‎‎
  36. Propose renaming Category:British expatriates in Palestine‎ to Category:British expatriates in Mandatory Palestine‎‎
  37. Propose renaming Category:Defunct law enforcement agencies of Palestine‎ to Category:Defunct law enforcement agencies of Mandatory Palestine‎
Nominator's rationale: disambiguate per Palestine (region) and State of Palestine, and per disambiguation page Palestine and disambiguation Category:Palestine. Nrs 1-20 of the proposal involve renaming to Palestine (region), nrs 21-35 involve renaming to State to Palestine and nrs 36-37 involve renaming to Mandatory Palestine. While choosing for one or the other rename, the current content of the category has been leading for this proposal. Only if the current content was mixed, a choice was made based on common sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:01, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I wouldn't have an upfront objection if any editor would create an additional child category "of the State of Palestine" in case of nrs 1-20 or would create an additional parent category "of Palestina (region)" in case of nrs 21-37 if this proposal would become accepted. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:19, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for your observation, I've added it as nr 35 now. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for #11, 12, 13, Support for the rest. For Category:Abbasid governors of Palestine, the reference is not the region, but the province of Jund Filastin, which is commonly referred to in English sources as Palestine; for Category:Peasants' revolt in Palestine and Category:People of the peasants' revolt in Palestine, they follow the main article on this conflict, where disambiguation is not used, nor IMO should it be used. "Palestine (region)" is proper when there is a danger of confusing the region with the modern Palestinian territories. This applies to categories about modern things as well as categories that are generic and reach up to the present day (e.g. "Geography of", "Centuries in" etc. type categories). For anything else, where there is a specific context and the term is clearly defined within this context, disambiguation is unnecessary. Constantine 18:33, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The idea of proper disambiguation, though there should be a review of whether the content actually matches the new title and scope. The Palestine region is wider than the modern state, and has a much more ancient and complex history. The administrative borders of Palestine have changed in time. For example, the Byzantine province of Palaestina Secunda was expanded to include areas of modern Israel, Jordan, and Syria. Its capital, "Scythopolis", was the modern Beit She'an. The city is geographically in the Palestine region, but not in the modern state of Palestine. It has no Palestinian population. Dimadick (talk) 09:23, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the concept of "Palestine (region)" and "State of Palestine". The appropriate names are respectively Palestine and Palestinian Terrritory( or -ies). However, I support the principle of a split. Historically (until 1947) it was Palestine. It was then split into the Jordan West Bank and Israel, until Israel occupied the former. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:09, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support all I don't think that there's a case for excluding 11, 12, 13. In the Ottoman period, there was no single area called "Palestine" officially: "The region was divided into the five sanjaks (provincial districts, also called liwa′ in Arabic) of Safad, Nablus, Jerusalem, Lajjun and Gaza, all part of the larger eyalet (province) of Damascus". Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Palestine is the region, "State of Palestine" is an area claimed by the government sitting in Ramallah. Are Israelis living in that area Category:Israeli expatriates in the State of Palestine? Articles on buildings, sites, etc. on the Israeli side of the Green Line that would incorrectly roll up into any "State of Palestine" categories would be plain errors. We cannot categorize physical locations by territorial claims. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:39, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There are many categories structures that categorize physical locations by territorial claims. The usual territorial claim categorisation structure is "by country". Every country is just a territorial claim. Some claims have widespread recognition by their neighbours and respected international organisations, others have less recognition, still others none at all outside the fantasy in some person's head. It's a spectrum. France is on the left of the spectrum; Imperial Throne (micronation) is on the right of the spectrum; Palestine is somewhere in between. It's sufficient for wiki if enough neighbours and international organisations, such as the UN, recognise it. Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:59, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it's not sufficient. In which country is Crimea? Abkhazia? Do we put physical places in a Kurdistan category? And to what extent should credence to the claim be given? Some countries recognize Palestine as a country with borders corresponding to the whole of the British Mandate. So Tel Aviv is in Palestine (the country) in their view. Until the claims are settled we cannot, correctly, make this change. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:13, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Does anybody in Crimea claim that it is a country? If there is, that's news to me. Many Abkhazians claim that their territory is a country. However, if it is, it's fairly low down on the list of List of states with limited recognition. Palestine is also on that list. Interestingly, so too is Israel. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:40, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Israel is in the top section, and all members of this section are, in fact, countries. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why so? As the nom I deliberately numbered the categories so that it would become very easy to discuss all of them together. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:15, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Some refer to region, others to geopolitical entity - the proposal is confusing those.GreyShark (dibra) 22:15, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment That's not a valid reason for opposing. List those that you oppose giving reasons for your opposition. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:43, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose #s 11, 12 and 13 and Support the rest per Cplakidas' reasoning above. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:13, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose #s 34 and 35 and Support for the rest. The stub categories as part of project Palestine include pages referencing historic Palestine, the the region of Palestine as well as the State of Palestine. If renaming all is necessary, then 34 and 35 would make more sense as Palestine (region), although that would still be inadequate. TrickyH (talk) 10:23, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • As the nominator, I don't have a problem with making a few well-motivated exceptions, like for #11, 12, 13, 34 and 35. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:56, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Falcon College[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:21, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Rationale: These categories don't include anything but Category:Alumni of Falcon College‎, which is already included elsewhere in the tree of in the parent category, Category:Schools in Zimbabwe - specifically in Category:Alumni by secondary school in Zimbabwe. No other individual schools in Zimbabwe have their own categories, and the second category is an other example of WP:OCASSOC. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:34, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete both -- The alumni are already in an appropriate alumni category, which mentions Falcon college in its headnote. Both are therefore redundant. No likelihood of expansion, as schoolmasters are rarely notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:13, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:User:Julien1978[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. Pichpich (talk) 16:56, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. We've deleted categories like this in the past (some examples). Categorization of user subpages by user is unnecessary (e.g. use Special:PrefixIndex/User:Julien1978/ instead) and causes a maintenance burden (e.g. because such categories turn up in the list of uncategorized categories). DexDor (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the user @Julien1978: should be informed of Special:PrefixIndex/User:Julien1978 -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:02, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Oneonta, Alabama[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Has only 2 entries....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now With no objection to recreating if we get up to 5 articles or so. RevelationDirect (talk) 09:38, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Erivan Governorate[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:05, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dubious. This governorate doesn't exist anymore and it's dubious to have a category for it. None of these cities were "built" during the governorate. Most, if not all, of them were established well before the establishment of the governate. Étienne Dolet (talk) 09:40, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic of the articles of this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- I found the answer in Erivansky Uyezd, about a subdivision of the governorate, which existed 1846-c.1917. It is useful to categories places by former administrative entities as well as the present one. I note that there is a subcat, "people from ...". It seems to me that is also legitimate, provided it is limited to people who were active there during the period of its existence. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:19, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think it's a good idea to categorize geography (or people, for that matter) by former country subdivisions, per WP:NONDEF, and it may well lead to a lot of category clutter. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:24, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete we don't categorize places by the former political subdivisions to which they were assigned. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:41, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Expatriates in Great Britain[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename; without prejudice to further discussions/renominations of the categories involved. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:04, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is for expatriates in the former Kingdom of Great Britain. At its current name it could easily be confused and used for expatriates in the modern-day United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland or for the Island of Great Britain in general. Proposed name would be the same form used for the former Kingdom of Hawaii, namely Category:Expatriates in the Kingdom of Hawaii AusLondonder (talk) 07:24, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, it's close to C2C, parented to Category:Kingdom of Great Britain people. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:56, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Great Britain is a term that's still used. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:25, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The main topic is the Kingdom of Great Britain, an 18th-century political entity. While the island of Great Britain has a long history, which covers states and people both older and younger than the 18th century. Dimadick (talk) 09:27, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete after reassigning articles to England or Scotland -- This nom and the assumption it is based on depend on an ahistoric interpretation that Great Britain only existed from 1707 to 1801. This causes much unnecessary fragmentation. GB merely changed its name in 1801 when it absorbed the crown dependency of Ireland. All the British institutions continued with minimal change. A much better solution is offered by Category:Dutch expatriates in the United Kingdom, which has a subcategory for England. This category and its subcategories have precisely 4 articles, which is not enough for a category, let alone a tree. The American was a student in Edinburgh and was thus an expatriate in Scotland. The other three were expatriates in England. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Now plain Delete. I have added the appropriate England or Scotland target to each of the articles: all the relevant target categories already existed. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:39, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm happily willing to support upmerging the subcats by country origin, per WP:SMALLCAT, but I would assume that the top category may be kept with 4 articles as having potential to grow. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:20, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • On second notice, I would not oppose upmerging Great Britain categories to United Kingdom categories if there would be a wider nomination about that. Upmerging in just this one single case doesn't make too much sense though. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:15, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I did not delete the existing categories, which would be "out of process". I merely added the alternative ones. If my proposal is not accepted, it is easy to revert the articles. Having found that there are existing categories for England or Scotland as appropriate, I still see no need for a GB category. Many UK categories are diffused to the four home nations. By applying that here, we avoid the need for a GB category altogether, which is never likely to be more than a thin thread of a tree-limb. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:25, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional cyberbullys[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:38, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Clearly, the plural of "bully" is "bullies" and not "bullys". Stephenb (Talk) 13:24, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - this looks to me like a C2A speedy case. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:49, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support speedy rename, simple spelling. AnemoneProjectors 12:52, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support rename. This is a spelling error. Note however, that we do not have a parent category for "Fictional bullies". Dimadick (talk) 09:37, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy -- Obvious spelling error. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:39, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete non-defining. One aspect of a fictional character who can be written to be anything. If it's defining, do we get to categorize real people who do the same into a similar category? I guess after watching The Contest, all the Seinfeld characters can be put in a Category:Fictional masturbaters. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:45, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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