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The result was redirect‎ to Don't Nod. Daniel (talk) 17:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lost Records: Bloom & Rage[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:NVIDEOGAME, and WP:CRYSTALBALL. The game was announced last night at The Game Awards 2023, and aside from articles briefly covering the announcement trailer, and a couple covering a teaser image released in January 2023, there's nothing in-depth about the game itself or its development.

This is a contested WP:BLAR, as there is a strong likelihood that closer to the game's release there will be sufficient sourcing for an article. There just isn't at this time. I suggest BLAR, redirecting to Don't Nod as an alternative to deletion. Sideswipe9th (talk) 18:08, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Sideswipe9th (talk) 18:08, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Don't Nod until more information is made available. It's just an announcement at this time. TarkusAB^talk/contrib 18:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect As textbook WP:TOOSOON. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect per nom. OceanHok (talk) 09:32, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect per nom. QuietCicada - Talk 22:05, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• I do want it to be kept, but will respect a redirect. Although looking back at other Don't Nod games, I don't see an AFD for anything of them, even for Jusant, and Harmony: The Fall of Reverie. Why this game? Ebbedlila (talk) 19:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Looking at those two page histories, both were created as redirects. Harmony's redirect was removed 10 days after it was released. It could have used more content, particularly in the reception and development sections, but at that time as a released game it passed NVIDEOGAME and CRYSTALBALL.

  Jusant's redirect was removed a little over a month after it was created. At that time the game was still pending, and no release date beyond "Fall 2023" had been provided. There was however a playable demo, and Eurogamer had previewed it. That one was a bit more borderline than Harmony, and potentially could have been BLARed (and AfDed if the BLAR was challenged) under the same criteria as Lost Records. As for why no-one did it, I suspect the preview from Eurogamer helped a lot with establishing notability, though ultimately you'd be better asking the editors who contributed to the article prior to the game's release why they chose not to.

  Don't get me wrong, I think Lost Records will eventually meet at least one of our notability guidelines. And I hope to contribute to the article at that time as I am interested in it, along with several other trailers that came out at The Game Awards. The problem right now is that it does not pass our notability guidelines, and we have some pretty strong policy reasons for why we don't document speculative content, like games that have little more than an announcement trailer. Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.