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The result was keep. Fritzpoll (talk) 13:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Amanda Fritz[edit]
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Although asserts significance, it is insufficiently referenced, and I'm not convinced of the notability of Portland Council members. Dlohcierekim 19:41, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Non-notable officeholder. My reading of WP:BIO and WP:POLITICIAN is that they don't stretch to every member of a city council, not even for a middle-sized city like Portland (or my own Milwaukee). --Orange Mike | Talk 19:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep --Mr Accountable (talk) 20:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteNo help from WP:POLITICIAN here, so we fall back on significant coverage in reliable sources, and I don't see any. No particular coverage in Portland other than the election, and none outside the area. Lots of blog chatter, but that doesn't count, of course. Rklear (talk) 21:45, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]- Comment - What kind of search did the nominator run before nominating this for deletion? I haven't (but then again only the nominator is supposed to per the deletion policy), but most city council people for top 50 (if not top 100) cities in the US usually have the requisite media coverage required by the WP:POLITICIAN portion of WP:BIO (which the second sentence of POLITICIAN explictly covers). Aboutmovies (talk) 21:51, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete there are news article that discuss the subject [1], but none that I can find that discuss the subject in a non-trivial way such that a biography can be written about the subject that satisfies WP:V. For example, this article establishes that she was a candidate for city council, she was a community activist, and her platform has shifted from being anti-business. And this covers an election night in 2006, but nothing substantial about herself or her political position. -Atmoz (talk) 19:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I created the article, and I concur that in its present form, it does not sufficiently assert notability, or provide sufficient sources. I will try to add these myself; as a Portlander, I have certainly seen sufficiently deep coverage of her in the media, but it will take me a little while to gather the info. I'll refrain from !voting until I've added the sources. -Pete (talk) 22:48, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. —Pete (talk) 23:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I have substantially expanded the article, including citations spanning nearly a decade. The first three citations in the article, I believe, are enough to decisively establish notability; they are full profiles from two major Portland and Oregon publications, from both the 2006 and 2008 election cycles. (Unfortunately, the Oregonian does not maintain publicly-accessible archives. I accessed these using my library card.) The other citations generally do not principally concern Fritz, but they demonstrate that she is included in the coverage of a number of news items. Fritz's notability rests on many factors: she was arguably Portland's best-known community activist over the last decade, she was an outspoken member of the influential Portland Planning Commission, an outspoken critic of City Hall, and the most prominent participant in Portland's public financing program.
- I should note that I'm not the ideal person to be working on the article -- the main reason I made such an incomplete stub to begin with. I consider Fritz a personal friend (though not a very close one), and I serve on Portland's Citizen Campaign Commission; I'd imagine some might consider these factors to constitute a conflict of interest. Hopefully, others will work on the article, and any bias that I may have inadvertently introduced will be negated. Thanks to Tedder (talk · contribs) for lending a hand in this latest round. -Pete (talk) 01:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- One other note -- the Newsbank system lists 30 Oregonian articles (including some duplicates) as including "Amanda Fritz" in the article lead or first paragraph. Many more that include her name in the article. Here's a Google News search with results from a number of publications. -Pete (talk) 01:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Amanda Fritz is the first "outsider" to win a seat on the Council in a long time (ever?) Her election has proven the worth of the Voter-Owned Elections system. I think the fact that she is the first to win election to the City Council with public money - in and of itelf - makes her notable and worthy of a WP entry. Frank1ray (talk) 04:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - With the additions of sources it now passes WP:BIO as there is amble coverage in sufficient depth in the online articles and in several of the articles from The Oregonian I checked. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:16, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep WP:POLITICIAN says: "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage. Generally speaking, mayors are likely to meet this criterion, as are members of the main citywide government or council of a major metropolitan city." Fritz meets these criteria with flying colors, obviously. Steven Walling (talk) 03:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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