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#I do not support altering our text to the proposed [[doublethink]] new-language at the behest of a small minority of non-conformers who perceive micro-aggressions from standard wording. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> 16:57, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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RfC to adopt a default gender neutral style for policy, guidelines and help pages

This proposal is to adopt a policy for gender neutral language to become a default for Wikipedia policies, help and guidelines. It will make Wikipedia a more welcoming environment for all genders, including non-binary readers and contributors who may feel excluded by avoidable emphasis on gendered words and phrases, such as "he or she". The proposal does not apply to articles, any type of discussion page, or individual users referring to themselves or others. -- Fæ (talk) 16:31, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gender neutral style for policy, guidelines and help pages

The English Wikipedia community is committed to providing a welcoming environment. Unless there is a specific reasonable need to the contrary, policy, guideline and help pages are to be written in gender neutral language. The use of gendered pronouns and other language that makes assertions about gender should be avoided. This policy applies to the language of official policy, guideline and help pages. It does not apply to any talk pages or user discussion venues, even if their purpose is to provide help to users, and it does not attempt to regulate the language used in those venues by individual editors.

In practical terms, existing statements which rely on phrases such as "he or she" may be replaced by use of "they" in its modern singular form, however to keep the context of the sentence may require a reordering of phrases, or a rewrite to remain clear. Where reasonable to do so, sentences should be rewritten to avoid unnecessary pronouns altogether.

Example from Wikipedia:Banning policy

"An e-mail appeal must specify the banned editor's Wikipedia username and any other usernames he or she has used to edit Wikipedia in the past two years."

  • Avoid. This makes an unwarranted assumption that the editor is identifiable as male or female and can feel unwelcoming for non-binary readers and contributors.

"An e-mail appeal must specify the banned editor's Wikipedia username and any other usernames they have used to edit Wikipedia in the past two years."

  • Better. This uses the "singular they" type of construction which, although it has a long history in English, is a construction that some native speakers find uncomfortable. Readers whose first language is not English may find such language more difficult to understand because of the apparent conflict between "the editor" (singular) and "their" (more often plural).

"Appeals by e-mail must specify your Wikipedia username and any other usernames you have used to edit Wikipedia in the past two years."

  • Better. As this part of policy explains a procedure of how banned editors can appeal, and the only action that can be taken is by a banned editor, the section can be recast in the second person. This gives a direct readable style and avoids unnecessary gendered pronouns.

"An e-mail appeal must specify the banned editor's Wikipedia username and any other usernames used to edit Wikipedia in the past two years."

  • Best. In many cases it is possible to recast the original sentence to avoid using pronouns entirely, without losing meaning.
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Notes about voting

Please consider breaking out longer discussions into the discussion section. If you are unsure if your question or choice of words may cause offence, consider asking separately at WikiProject LGBT studies first. This is not a vote or discussion about transgender or nonbinary rights. See Talk:Wikimedia LGBT for some off-wiki channels if you have concerns or want to discuss any related issues with LGBT+ friendly volunteers.

Support

  1. As proposer. --Fæ (talk) 15:02, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support - Even without broader discriminatory implications, he/she is so exceedingly stylistically awkward it makes me cringe. With those boarder implications, there's just no reason not to. TimothyJosephWood 15:09, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support - I support the use of gender-neutral language wherever possible, especially as I'm agender and prefer singular they pronouns for myself. Funcrunch (talk) 15:21, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support - I typically use the singular They anyway, unless someone has explicitly stated their preferred gender-based nomenclature. Exemplo347 (talk) 15:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC) That's right, I know long words[reply]
  5. Support with the comment that the singular 'they' can be confusing to native English speakers as well as others. The pronoun-free construction used in the "best" example should be used in every case where it is feasible. RivertorchFIREWATER 15:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

  1. I do not support altering our text to the proposed doublethink new-language at the behest of a small minority of non-conformers who perceive micro-aggressions from standard wording. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:57, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/RfC_to_adopt_a_default_gender_neutral_style_for_policy,_guidelines_and_help_pages&diff=774316930&oldid=774313716