March 5

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 5, 2024.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referendums/Overview of results

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referendums/Overview of results → Elections by country  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Steel1943 (talk) 22:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Wikiproject Elections and Referenda/Overview of results

• Wikipedia:Wikiproject Elections and Referenda/Overview of results → Elections by country  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Bunch of confusing/unlikely WP:XNRs. Delete all unless a proper non-mainspace target can be found. Steel1943 (talk) 22:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

King Slime

• King Slime → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eye of Cthulu

• Eye of Cthulu → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eater of Worlds

• Eater of Worlds → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brain of Cthulu

• Brain of Cthulu → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Skeletron

• Skeletron → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deerclops

• Deerclops → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Slime

• Queen Slime → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plantera

• Plantera → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Duke Fishron

• Duke Fishron → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Empress of Light

• Empress of Light → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lunatic Cultist

• Lunatic Cultist → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moon Lord

• Moon Lord → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mourning Wood

• Mourning Wood → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pumpking

• Pumpking → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Everscream

• Everscream → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Santa-NK1

• Santa-NK1 → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Solar Pillar

• Solar Pillar → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nebula Pillar

• Nebula Pillar → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:33, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

redirects to Terraria

• Vortex Pillar → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Stardust Pillar → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Turkor the Ungreatful → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Ocram → Terraria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention on target page. There are about a dozen of these, presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kanpachi

• Kanpachi → Greater amberjack  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"Kanpachi" is not mentioned on the target page. I tried to verify this myself and got very conflicting results about whether this is the correct target. Kanpachi is definitely a Seriola, but is it this Seriola? I don't know how to evaluate which of these sources are reliable and would appreciate input from someone who does. Wikispecies agrees that this is the correct target, but of course, that's user-generated. Kanpachi is a Japanese word and in katakana is カンパチ, if this helps anyone. asilvering (talk) 21:04, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambiguate/ The Japanese Wikipedia article ja:カンパチ is about Seriola dumerili (greater amberjack), but says (translated by Google) "S. rivoliana is very similar to this species and is sometimes confused with this species." Searching FishBase for the common name "kanpachi" only returns S. dumerili.

However, searching Google for "kanpachi" returns pages that mention the scientific name Seriola rivoliana (some calling it "Hawaiian kampachi", others just calling it "kanpachi"). And pages that don't mention a scientific name often make it clear that they are referring to a fish that is farmed (not wild-caught) in Hawaii (i.e. Seriola rivoliana). From what I'm seeing from Google, I think "kanpachi", in English, refers to S. rivoliana more often than S. dumerili.

Common names for fish eaten as seafood often refer to multiple species. The US FDA says that Lutjanus campechanus is the only species that can be marketed as "red snapper", but there is zero enforcement and I regularly see fish labelled as red snapper with a country of origin well outside the range of L. campechanus. Plantdrew (talk) 22:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ownership of articles

• Ownership of articles → Wikipedia:Ownership of content  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Cross namespace redirect with only links to mostly discussion archives. It is unlikely for users to link this page whatsoever. Toadette ^{(Let's discuss together!)} 19:04, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Copyright#Ownership as it's the closest thing I can think of to the topic described by the redirect name. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 19:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Ownership. If this is to remain a cross-namespace redirect then the current target is definitely the correct one, being the same place Wikipedia:Ownership of articles redirects. Looking at Google results, the most common result is internal policies on various wikis (at least some of them probably inspired by our policy), followed by queries about/discussion of the policy on Wikipedia (a mix of UGC and academic discourse). Looking for hits unrelated to Wikis, there are results regarding copyright (especially of works produced by academics), copyright/ownership of website articles (especially knowledge base articles), and ownership of physical property (e.g. relation to pawn brokers and marriage). I don't support retargetting to copyright#Ownership as that's too deep in the article and too short to really help most people without all the preceding context. Ownership is the best target I've found as while it's more general than the search term is looking for, it does cover all aspects of ownership and contains a hatnote to the current target. Thryduulf (talk) 19:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak retarget though Google for this term in quotes mainly returns Wikipedia it does return other uses. Unlike say Articles for deletion it doesn't seem like a particularly likely search term especially given the project page was renamed to "content" to reflect its not just articles. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

South Central region

• South Central region → South Central  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I don't find this an implausible search term per se, but there are zero incoming links, 0 pageviews in the last 30 days, and this was created in November. Unneeded redirect. asilvering (talk) 17:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep or retarget to South Central Coast to match South Central Region]. This is a plausible search term and the redirect is harmless, so there is no benefit to deletion. "Unnecessary" is never a reason to delete a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 17:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to South Central Coast per Thryduulf. Between the region of Vietnam and the roller derby region, this is the primary topic. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:SURVEY

• Wikipedia:SURVEY → Wikipedia:Survey 2008  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I'd like to point this to WP:SUBSTANTIATE, somewhere less mildewy, because I always forget it's "SUBSTANTIATE", and keep wanting "most scholars" or "survey". Remsense诉 17:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Wikipedia:Survey. Although all the incoming links relate to the current target, it's unlikely that this is what most people using the shortcut are searching for these days. While I think WP:SUBSTANTIATE is even less likely, it would be possible to add it to the list. Thryduulf (talk) 18:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Oh，I mean—if this is a me thing, then I happily retract/ I thought it might be a useful redirect for others as well. Remsense诉 19:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: On the one hand, Where else links to Wikipedia:Survey 2008, and how many of those links go through WP:SURVEY to do so? Probably will need to fix any that do. That said, I can't think of many reasons to link to the current target-- 2008 is like... 16 years ago, wow...
On the other hand, WP:SURVEY has an entire Wikipedia:Survey DAB page, and WP:SUBSTANTIATE isn't on it. It also feels like it's a bad include to put on it, given it... only mentions it once at the end as a potential source for "Most people think", instead of being about surveys itself?

For the record, SUBSTANTIATE isn't the only redirect to this section-- you also have access to WP:ATTRPOV, WP:Attribute POV, and Wikipedia:ATTRIBUTEPOV. Maybe one of those is easier to remember than SUBSTANTIATE? Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 18:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Raspberry Ukraine

• Raspberry Ukraine → Ukrainians in Kuban  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

no mention on target page. I have no idea what this means, tried a quick google, nothing immediately obvious. Redirect should be deleted unless someone can add supporting content at Ukrainians in Kuban. asilvering (talk) 17:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it's based on a weird historic name and subsequent wonky translation of 'Malynovyi Klyn' see Klyn. Sorry it seems that i forgot to get rid of the pipe on that page when i made the redirect—blindlynx 17:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming Ukrainians in Kuban to Malynovyi Klyn in line with other Klyn pages might be a solution—blindlynx 18:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

France 2024

• France 2024 → 2024 Summer Olympics  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Bringing this here based on a dispute with Abhiramakella. Based on consensus in past discussions, including one that resulted in the deletion of this redirect in the past, CountryName YYYY redirects are not unambiguously associated with events. Proposing to redirect to 2024 in France, which wasn't an option at the time this redirect was last deleted. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget as per nom and per consensus from past discussions. Seems legit to me. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 16:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Causes of climate change

"Munchasan Kathakal" and "Munjasan Kathakal"

• Munchasan Kathakal → Baron Munchausen  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Munjasan Kathakal → Baron Munchausen  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. Most likely WP:FORRED issues. Steel1943 (talk) 13:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. These appear to be Malayalam. Thryduulf (talk) 13:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pappoos

• Pappoos → Henry (comics)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target unclear. Most likely, this is a WP:FORRED issue. Steel1943 (talk) 12:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Trying to search around, and am getting vague, spotty references to the comic book character being referred to as "Pappoos" or "Pappus" in another language. I think we can chalnk this up to WP:FORRED. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 13:07, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as best I can tell this relates to a Malayalam animated cartoon "based on" the target (but that's based on unreliable sources so may be incorrect). Putting "Pappoos" into Google Translate and asking it for Malayalam gives "പപ്പൂസ്", searching that does back up the connection so I think we can safely say this is a WP:FORRED issue. Thryduulf (talk) 13:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive (2018 film) / Drive (2017 film)

• Drive (2017 film) → Drive (2019 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Drive (2018 film) → Drive (2019 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Film was never released in 2017 or 2018, so propose deletion per WP:RDELETE#D2 as misleading/potential for confusion. The traffic dropped to zero after I removed the final link to the 2018 redirect at the end of last year. 2pou (talk) 21:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep the 2018 redirect, as the film was scheduled to be released in 2018 before being pushed back to 2019 (although the traffic has dropped to essentially zero pageviews). Delete the 2017 one, as I can't find any evidence of plans to release it in that year. Regards, SONIC678 17:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep the 2018 redirect as it was definitely originally scheduled to be released in 2018, making it a plausible way to search for this. When created, the article initially gave a 2017 date ([1]) but I'm unsure if a reference exists for this, so I am neutral on the 2017 redirect for now. A7V2 (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the 2018 redirect, delete the 2017 redirect, as per above. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 11:10, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brookville Police Department

• Brookville Police Department → Brookville, New York  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

no mention on target page, plausibly notable. asilvering (talk) 05:38, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DeletE as per nom. WP:REDLINK. I uh, think you put this new RfD nomination right in the middle of an existing nomination, which means you stole the original version of this comment from Master of the TreboN Altarpiece ^^; That said, no harm no foul, as my vote for this one is mostly the same anyways! Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 04:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lunamann: What happened was the first non-bot edit of the day broke the top text that Twinkle uses to detect where to put new RfD nominations. But ... this is odd since apparently, per other nominations on this page, XFDcloser ... knew where to put the relisted nominations, even with the top matter looking abnormal. Maybe Twinkle could take a bit of code from XFDcloser to utilize for new RfD nominations in the same manner that XFDcloser determines where to place a relisted discussion? (Eh, might as well ping Novem Linguae so they are aware of this as they seem to be one of the most active editors at monitoring both tools these days.) Steel1943 (talk) 13:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huh. Weird. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 14:20, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huh, weird! I didn't realize that's what happened and was wondering why your initial comment didn't seem to make sense. -- asilvering (talk) 17:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can add a mention of the department on the target page a little later today. I thought I did so already but I guess I am mistaken. My apologies. Infrastorian (talk) 16:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll note, for the record, that this proposed edit would change my vote from Delete (er, DeletE) to Keep (or perhaps, Refine.) Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 16:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2023 Terrorist Encounter in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

• November 2023 Terrorist Encounter in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa → 2023 Tirah shooting  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"Terrorist Encounter"? Was at this title for under a day. Rusalkii (talk) 01:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep. The incident does seem to described as an encounter with terrorists by contemporary news reports so it's not an implausible search term. Probably should be tagged as {{R from non-neutral term}} though. Thryduulf (talk) 13:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Shadown Of Catire

Website previously known as Twitter

• Website previously known as Twitter → Twitter  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• The website previously known as Twitter → Twitter  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Requesting deletion for unencyclopedic search terms that are unlikely to be frequently sought after or helpful as most readers looking for Twitter would just search for that and go from there, plus it is still largely called Twitter on the site and by many media and news outlets. Trailblazer101 (talk) 01:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom, plus no mainspace links to either one. GSK (talk • edits) 01:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as per WP:UNHELPFUL, a test search for "Website previously known as Tumblr" had Tumblr as the very first result. Presumably, if we removed this redirect, the same would still hold for Twitter. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 02:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep both as per a smart kitten and Thryduulf, who are right on all counts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lunamann (talk • contribs) 14:04, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ...I... what???? That was supposed to be an edit of the comment above it. It displayed correctly in the past. How in the name of sanity did THIS happen??? ...Why does nonsense like this keep happening to me specifically? First Discussions stuffed the entirety of RtD into my collapsible, then Twinkle stole my reply meant for one discussion and put it under a different one, and now this nonsense. It's like these bot scripts have it out for me or something, lol Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 14:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Lunamann: I'll explain this further on your talk page. Steel1943 (talk) 14:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep both. Variations of the phrase [the website] formerly known as Twitter have been used (& are being used) by a number of reliable sources - e.g. [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8] - thus making this a likely & potentially helpful search term (engaging WP:R#K3); with no other target that it could be ambiguous with (as far as I can tell at a glance). Redirects are cheap, and - notwithstanding my problems with the WP:COSTLY essay - I don't believe WP:UNHELPFUL/WP:PANDORA apply in this instance, due to this specific phrase being used by reliable sources. A lack of incoming internal links is not a reason for deletion - especially so with redirects such as these ones, which can validly exist as search terms. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 13:26, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I feel like these should use “formerly”, rather than or at least as well as “previously”, as these quotes are usually worded in that way. –Gluonz ^{talk contribs} 13:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Fair point (I must have skimread the exact wording of the redirects too quickly!). My opinion would be that both forms could exist as redirects, given that previously is a synonym of formerly. (For what it’s worth, at a search, I’ve found sources also using previously - e.g. [9], [10], [11]) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 14:14, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep both per a smart kitten. These are highly plausible search terms, given that phrases like this are how many people are referring to the website previously known as Twitter. The longer it becomes since it was known as Twitter the more likely it will be that people don't know what is being referred to, and even those who do won't know the title of our article given how ambiguous "X" is. Thryduulf (talk) 13:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep per the third reply; the second reply brings my opinion slightly towards ‘delete’ but still within the ‘keep’ range. –Gluonz ^{talk contribs} 14:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Unlikely search term. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Both redirects show evidence of being used, getting 12 (Website) and 40 (The website) hits between October and February. The latter particularly is evidence these are not actually unlikely. Thryduulf (talk) 19:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Unlikely doesn't mean never. Should we make redirects for animal that barks, country shaped like a boot, and playwright who wrote Romeo and Juliet next? These belong on Jeopardy!, not Wikipedia. InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The issue with that is that WP:PANDORA, which seems to be the only citeable essay or guideline or policy that I can find that attempts to put into words why we don't and shouldn't have such "sentence redirects"... is, as Thryduulf put it at one point, 'WP:OTHERSTUFF nonsense'. Like, the core idea-- that we shouldn't make or keep redirects that amount to a user typing an entire sentence or question into the searchbox-- seems sound to me, but the 'pandora's box' argument used renders the essay... dare I say it? Renders it WP:UNHELPFUL. (And this is coming from a relatively new user that has been trying to wrap my brain around this for the past couple of weeks, and also, who tried to cite that very argument earlier on in this very discussion.)

  That said, WP:COSTLY nonsense notwithstanding, I wouldn't mark this as one of those redirects. As smart kitten and Thryduulf have pointed out, this phrase (or at least, a variant of it) gets used in reliable sources all the time to refer to Twitter/X, and has been ever since the name change. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 19:48, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  If you can find evidence that people are searching Wikipedia for those terms, especially if they are frequently used in multiple independent sources, then they would likely make useful redirects (although "animal that barks" is ambiguous - Bark (sound) notes that dogs, wolves, coyotees, foxes, seals and other animals all make that noise)). However as Lunamann points out, whether they are or are not useful search terms is completely irrelevant to whether these redirects are useful search terms. Thryduulf (talk) 19:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I meeeaaan, if you put animal that barks -> dog up on RfD, I'd recommend retargeting to Bark (sound). But we're getting into the weeds. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 20:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Y'all must be cat people... InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:PANDORA, we could otherwise end up with things like Country previously known as Swaziland or Parish previously known as Halstead Rural. There is no merits that I can see that we would treat this one differently than all the other things that have been renamed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  What makes this different is that multiple sources frequently refer to it as "(the) website previously known as Twitter" as a name, not just as temporary clarification, in the same way "The artist formerly known as Prince" was used. Also, once again, WP:PANDORA is just WP:OTHERSTUFF + WP:CRYSTAL - we judge redirects on their own merits, not on the merits of other redirects that someone might theoretically create at some point in the future (and there isn't even evidence to support the underlying assumption that it will encourage such creations). Thryduulf (talk) 20:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ...Prince-mind? Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 20:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  "Website previously known as Twitter" only gets around 529 Google hits most of which are from Wikipedia. It doesn't appear to be a common term unlike "The artist formerly known as Prince" which is mentioned in the target and has about 135,000 hits, similarly "Country previously known as Swaziland" has about 528 hits. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  More like 9 news results, three of which are invalid. I guess that must be some users' definition of "widely used by reliable sources". InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I mean, if the country of Swaziland were only recently renamed to Swaziland, still regularly referred to as Swaziland by most people, and kept getting referred to with the phrase "Country previously known as Swaziland" in reliable publications, then yeah, I could see us ending up with Country previously known as Swaziland. ...It's a bit like The Artist Formerly Known as Prince. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 20:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Master of the TreboN Altarpiece

• Master of the TreboN Altarpiece → Master of the Třeboň Altarpiece  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The redirect page Master of the Trebon Altarpiece already exists, so a version where the N in Trebon is capitalized is absolutely unnecessary and should be deleted. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 01:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• DeletE as per nom. (Odd, my comment on Brookville Police Department was originally actually meant for THIS discussion...) Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 07:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ok, and now I get the joke. -- asilvering (talk) 17:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC) [reply]

• DeletE as unhelpful error. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]