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::When it comes to [[WP:BLP|BLP]]'s there needs to be a high degree of sensitivity treated to these articles. The sources you provided are self published sources. Self published sources are not to be used for citing information on a living person. Per [[WP:BLPSPS]], these two websites you provided are not acceptable. Also identifying Hurt's views as "extreme" is unacceptable. The source does not use the word and it appears to be your own [[WP:NOR|original research]]. Even then, using that term (as well as you using "flip-flop") express contentious opinion and should be avoided unless widely used by reliable sources, which is not the case here. The Daily Progress article does not state he denied global warming, but was responding solely to a question on "[[climategate]]". [[User:Truthsort|Truthsort]] ([[User talk:Truthsort|talk]]) 07:46, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
::When it comes to [[WP:BLP|BLP]]'s there needs to be a high degree of sensitivity treated to these articles. The sources you provided are self published sources. Self published sources are not to be used for citing information on a living person. Per [[WP:BLPSPS]], these two websites you provided are not acceptable. Also identifying Hurt's views as "extreme" is unacceptable. The source does not use the word and it appears to be your own [[WP:NOR|original research]]. Even then, using that term (as well as you using "flip-flop") express contentious opinion and should be avoided unless widely used by reliable sources, which is not the case here. The Daily Progress article does not state he denied global warming, but was responding solely to a question on "[[climategate]]". [[User:Truthsort|Truthsort]] ([[User talk:Truthsort|talk]]) 07:46, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Those are not just self-published sources. Blue Virginia has an editor and requires approval for first page (Blue Virginia actually has press passes to VA Capital, I believe, might be wrong...). I would assume Bearing Drift does the same. These are the top respective Democratic and Republican news sources for Virginia politics. Stuff that breaks there have been republished in reputable publications including the Washington Post and others. I also provided a rationale for the word's use outside of those sources. Are you saying [[climate change denial]] is NOT extreme? I'm sure many scientists would disagree with you. It's not original research, climate change is to "downplay, deny or dismiss the scientific consensus on the extent of global warming, its significance, and its connection to human behavior, especially for commercial or ideological reasons" according to our page. That's pretty much what Hurt did in the source. Did you read it? He claimed that "climategate" was a example of "faulty information" regarding [[global warming]] which fits in OUR definition for climate change denial. He also attacked regulations regarding it.. [[User:SayHiWorld|SayHiWorld]] ([[User talk:SayHiWorld#top|talk]]) 16:52, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Those are not just self-published sources. Blue Virginia has an editor and requires approval for first page (Blue Virginia actually has press passes to VA Capital, I believe, might be wrong...). I would assume Bearing Drift does the same. These are the top respective Democratic and Republican news sources for Virginia politics. Stuff that breaks there have been republished in reputable publications including the Washington Post and others. I also provided a rationale for the word's use outside of those sources. Are you saying [[climate change denial]] is NOT extreme? I'm sure many scientists would disagree with you. It's not original research, climate change is to "downplay, deny or dismiss the scientific consensus on the extent of global warming, its significance, and its connection to human behavior, especially for commercial or ideological reasons" according to our page. That's pretty much what Hurt did in the source. Did you read it? He claimed that "climategate" was a example of "faulty information" regarding [[global warming]] which fits in OUR definition for climate change denial. He also attacked regulations regarding it.. [[User:SayHiWorld|SayHiWorld]] ([[User talk:SayHiWorld#top|talk]]) 16:52, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
::::Blue Virginia describes the website as "a group blog and a community blog", which right there amkes it a source to be avoided. I was looking at the website and I see no indication of a staff or who the editor is, not to mention of the some writers there are going by alias such as "lowkell". Simply by its self-identification as a "group blog", the website cleary violates [[WP:SPS]]. The same applies to Bearing Drift. While it list the contributors to Bearing Drift, it does not list any editorial oversight there. It does not matter what I think of climate change but labeling a position as "extreme" is clearly original research. This statement on "climategate" was regarding content that was supposedly being manipulated when is what he is referring to when he says "faulty information". Your edits to the article are extremely problematic and I am going to revert them and I highly recommend that you do not re-add it. [[User:Truthsort|Truthsort]] ([[User talk:Truthsort|talk]]) 18:31, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

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I know the definition, but in the political world the term "flip-flopped" is an attack on politicians for displaying contradictory policies and using it here is a neutrality issue. The cited article does not even use that term. Truthsort (talk) 08:12, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but we're intelligent people and can use words that verifiable summarize what the sources say. But if thats not good enough for you, here's two top Virginia political blogs (and I know that you're going to say Blogs aren't reliable, Blue Virginia publishes posts directly from Congressman and the Democratic State Senate caucus, Bearing Drift is primarily a bunch of top-Virginia Republican operatives and a few elected officials, these aren't your "kid in mom's basement" blogs) from the left and the right calling it a flip flop. Even if the blogs didn't use it, we can read the definition and article to verifiably summarize what happened into a word in common usage: flip-flop. SayHiWorld (talk) 18:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
When it comes to BLP's there needs to be a high degree of sensitivity treated to these articles. The sources you provided are self published sources. Self published sources are not to be used for citing information on a living person. Per WP:BLPSPS, these two websites you provided are not acceptable. Also identifying Hurt's views as "extreme" is unacceptable. The source does not use the word and it appears to be your own original research. Even then, using that term (as well as you using "flip-flop") express contentious opinion and should be avoided unless widely used by reliable sources, which is not the case here. The Daily Progress article does not state he denied global warming, but was responding solely to a question on "climategate". Truthsort (talk) 07:46, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Those are not just self-published sources. Blue Virginia has an editor and requires approval for first page (Blue Virginia actually has press passes to VA Capital, I believe, might be wrong...). I would assume Bearing Drift does the same. These are the top respective Democratic and Republican news sources for Virginia politics. Stuff that breaks there have been republished in reputable publications including the Washington Post and others. I also provided a rationale for the word's use outside of those sources. Are you saying climate change denial is NOT extreme? I'm sure many scientists would disagree with you. It's not original research, climate change is to "downplay, deny or dismiss the scientific consensus on the extent of global warming, its significance, and its connection to human behavior, especially for commercial or ideological reasons" according to our page. That's pretty much what Hurt did in the source. Did you read it? He claimed that "climategate" was a example of "faulty information" regarding global warming which fits in OUR definition for climate change denial. He also attacked regulations regarding it.. SayHiWorld (talk) 16:52, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Blue Virginia describes the website as "a group blog and a community blog", which right there amkes it a source to be avoided. I was looking at the website and I see no indication of a staff or who the editor is, not to mention of the some writers there are going by alias such as "lowkell". Simply by its self-identification as a "group blog", the website cleary violates WP:SPS. The same applies to Bearing Drift. While it list the contributors to Bearing Drift, it does not list any editorial oversight there. It does not matter what I think of climate change but labeling a position as "extreme" is clearly original research. This statement on "climategate" was regarding content that was supposedly being manipulated when is what he is referring to when he says "faulty information". Your edits to the article are extremely problematic and I am going to revert them and I highly recommend that you do not re-add it. Truthsort (talk) 18:31, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]