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: I'd also recommend reviewing [[WP:SYNTH]] on the topic of drawing inferences based on primary sources. Finally, if the ''only'' source to reproduce the original tweet is an explicitly partisan or ideologically-focused source, then [[WP:WEIGHT]] applies. —[[User:Sangdeboeuf|Sangdeboeuf]] ([[User talk:Sangdeboeuf#top|talk]]) 10:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
: I'd also recommend reviewing [[WP:SYNTH]] on the topic of drawing inferences based on primary sources. Finally, if the ''only'' source to reproduce the original tweet is an explicitly partisan or ideologically-focused source, then [[WP:WEIGHT]] applies. —[[User:Sangdeboeuf|Sangdeboeuf]] ([[User talk:Sangdeboeuf#top|talk]]) 10:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
:[[User:Christian B Martin|Christian B Martin]], Neither "TruthOrFiction" nor "CNSNews" are acceptable [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] - one appears to be little more than an anonymous Internet blog, and the other is a right-wing [[house organ]] with no journalistic credentials or reputation. The only marginally-acceptable source there is Snopes, and if the only source you can find is Snopes, it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia biography. [[User:NorthBySouthBaranof|NorthBySouthBaranof]] ([[User talk:NorthBySouthBaranof|talk]]) 15:12, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
:[[User:Christian B Martin|Christian B Martin]], Neither "TruthOrFiction" nor "CNSNews" are acceptable [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] - one appears to be little more than an anonymous Internet blog, and the other is a right-wing [[house organ]] with no journalistic credentials or reputation. The only marginally-acceptable source there is Snopes, and if the only source you can find is Snopes, it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia biography. [[User:NorthBySouthBaranof|NorthBySouthBaranof]] ([[User talk:NorthBySouthBaranof|talk]]) 15:12, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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Original theories on talk pages

What you were talking about on the Help Desk sounds like a major change in how talk pages are done. This would require consensus, but you could propose the idea at WP:VP I'm reluctant to say WP:VPP because I got criticized for starting topics there, but I'm not sure WP:VPR is the right place either.

A Teahouse response also linked to Help talk:Using talk pages. That might be a place to propose the idea.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:05, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Toxic masculinity affects health?

Just posting this up here to make sure you saw. Anon left no edit summary but it seems valid anyway. This is a contentious topic without using Original Research and Synthesis (and in the lede no less). My hope is that you either leave this removed or reliably source it. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 08:21, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you very much for giving me a barnstar, Sangdeboeuf! That was very thoughtful of you, and I appreciate your appreciation a lot. :) (Also, apologies if editing your talk page like this is not the best way to thank you; I looked around but was unable to find a clear guide on the proper way to respond.) Cardboardconfines (talk) 10:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Toxic masculinity

May not have source it as well as you would have but i've added the necessary rebuttal to the topic if you want to take a look. Lets continue any discussions on the talk page there to keep it open to all. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 12:52, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please beware of introducing false balance into articles; criticism should always be treated with due weight. And Wikipedia doesn't publish "rebuttals"; it is not a debate society or a soapbox, but a summary of accepted knowledge on a topic. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:10, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia also does not Censor itself because someone may disagree with content. I have multiple reliable sources, including big name feminists openly declaring this as a myth and a tool to attack and reeducate men from an early age. If you disagree with that I expect you to take it to the the talk page. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 08:42, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Removal of my edit referencing Sarsour tweet on Sharia law

Dear Sangdeboeuf,

You undid a two-line addition I made to Linda Sarsour's Wikipedia page, stating (bizarrely), "Not a reliable source." I used that particular source (out of many possible) because it alone posted the ORIGINAL SOURCE MATERIAL, i.e. the actual image of the Sarsour tweet I quote (which is what is important -- as opposed to your personal opinion that CNSNews.com is not as reliable as Nytimes.com). Here was my addition:

Sarsour has openly supported Sharia law (a system that punishes women and men with, among other things, flogging, amputation, and stoning). For example, Sarsour referred to Sharia as "reasonable," tweeting (in 2011): "once u read into the details it makes a lot of sense."

This 2011 tweet by Sarsour in support of Sharia law is quite infamous and well known. Its inclusion in a Wikipedia section on Sarsour's "Controversies" is vital as it may be the MOST controversial thing she has said. And, just as importantly, Sarsour's tweet provides CRITICAL context for the following paragraph on the statements by Ayaan Hirsi Ali about her. Are you even reading additions in context? The Ali paragraph is infinitely more coherent with my addition.

I must question your disinterest as regards Ms. Sarsour. Methinks perhaps it is not the source material that is "unreliable"... Christian B Martin (talk) 09:57, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please have a look at Wikipedia's policy on material relating to living people:

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I'd also recommend reviewing WP:SYNTH on the topic of drawing inferences based on primary sources. Finally, if the only source to reproduce the original tweet is an explicitly partisan or ideologically-focused source, then WP:WEIGHT applies. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 10:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Christian B Martin, Neither "TruthOrFiction" nor "CNSNews" are acceptable reliable sources - one appears to be little more than an anonymous Internet blog, and the other is a right-wing house organ with no journalistic credentials or reputation. The only marginally-acceptable source there is Snopes, and if the only source you can find is Snopes, it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia biography. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 15:12, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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